Camber adjustment
2003-07-16 by Don Lattimer
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2003-07-16 by Don Lattimer
The camber on my 1971 V6 (steel frame) is off. The effect is to wear the tires on the inside. Too much negative camber. Besides replacing the bushings, etc. any one have any suggestions? I know the camber angle is built in and can't be adjusted but......? Don Lattimer #3m5759 Willits, CA, USA
2003-07-16 by pauldransfield@iname.com
Hi Don, Make sure your alignment is correct. Too little toe-in would have the same effect. Regards, Paul Dransfield 3 litre Volvo
-----Original Message----- From: Don Lattimer [mailto:donlattimer@...] Sent: July 16, 2003 2:16 PM To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Camber adjustment The camber on my 1971 V6 (steel frame) is off. The effect is to wear the tires on the inside. Too much negative camber. Besides replacing the bushings, etc. any one have any suggestions? I know the camber angle is built in and can't be adjusted but......? Don Lattimer #3m5759 Willits, CA, USA To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: MarcosManiacs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
2003-07-18 by Garry Diver
2003-07-18 by Don Lattimer
----- Original Message -----From: Garry DiverSent: Friday, July 18, 2003 1:00 PMSubject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Camber adjustmentDon,
; Since I have to run with 'standard' suspension in Historic racing I have
been looking at some offset upper bushes. Also the wear rate will be
impacted by the type of tire you run, i.e. radial vs bias ply. would 1' more
positive do it for you?
Garry
>From: "Don Lattimer" <donlattimer@...>
>Reply-To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
>To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Camber adjustment
>Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 18:16:17 -0000
>
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2003-07-24 by pauldransfield@iname.com
Hi Don, I pulled into a local golf course parking lot last Saturday morning in my Marcos and, as I got out of the car, a guy adjacent to me commented 'A friend of mine has one of those'. That immediately got my attention and it turns out that his friend has been restoring the car for quite some time. I suggested the friend join our group but I've forgotten the membership process. Could you please refresh my memory. Thanks, Paul Dransfield 3 litre Volvo
-----Original Message----- From: Don Lattimer [mailto:donlattimer@...] Sent: July 16, 2003 2:16 PM To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Camber adjustment The camber on my 1971 V6 (steel frame) is off. The effect is to wear the tires on the inside. Too much negative camber. Besides replacing the bushings, etc. any one have any suggestions? I know the camber angle is built in and can't be adjusted but......? Don Lattimer #3m5759 Willits, CA, USA To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: MarcosManiacs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
2003-07-24 by Don Lattimer
----- Original Message -----From: pauldransfield@...Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 10:56 AMSubject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Camber adjustmentHi Don,
I pulled into a local golf course parking lot last Saturday morning in my
Marcos and, as I got out of the car, a guy adjacent to me commented 'A
friend of mine has one of those'. That immediately got my attention and it
turns out that his friend has been restoring the car for quite some time. I
suggested the friend join our group but I've forgotten the membership
process. Could you please refresh my memory.
Thanks,
Paul Dransfield
3 litre Volvo
-----Original Message-----
From: Don Lattimer [mailto:donlattimer@...]
Sent: July 16, 2003 2:16 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Camber adjustment
The camber on my 1971 V6 (steel frame) is off. The effect is to
wear the tires on the inside. Too much negative camber.
Besides replacing the bushings, etc. any one have any suggestions?
I know the camber angle is built in and can't be adjusted but......?
Don Lattimer
#3m5759
Willits, CA, USA
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2003-07-25 by Garry Diver
Don, Sorry for the delayed reply but I have been travelling. When the car is jacked up it should have about 5' positive in full droop. Also the 'normal' position of the upper and lower A arms should have a slight downward tilt ( inside to out) when the car is in its normal position on the wheels( no driver) . The original setting was 0' on the springs sold with the car. If your car shows negative camber in the normal settled position then you may have shortened springs. If this is the case let me know your spring length and I will check for you. Ideally you need to also check the bumpsteer which will also give the same tire wear characteristics. If the car has been lowered and the steering rack geometry has not been changed the this could be the culprit. It sounds like you know how to check all these things but if you need some help let me know. To answer your specific question, raising the ride height will reduce negative camber. Good luck Garry Diver 3M5543 >From: "Don Lattimer" <donlattimer@...> >Reply-To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com >To: <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> >Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Camber adjustment >Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:50:08 -0700 > >Garry, > >Just jacked the car up a little while ago. Jacked the whole front up so >wheels hang free. With the wheels at their lowest point (the shocks >extended length) I have positive camber (top of wheel out further than the >bottom. It appears that nothing is loose or excessively worn. > >Would raising the car with the adjustable height springs change the camber? > I've got to freshen up my geometry I guess. I'm going to raise and lower >the wheel thru its travel to see what the changes are. > >Have to get back to work so more tonight. Maybe........it's 105 degrees >here now! > >Don Lattimer >#3m5759 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Garry Diver > To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 1:00 PM > Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Camber adjustment > > > Don, > Since I have to run with 'standard' suspension in Historic racing I >have > been looking at some offset upper bushes. Also the wear rate will be > impacted by the type of tire you run, i.e. radial vs bias ply. would 1' >more > positive do it for you? > > Garry > > > >From: "Don Lattimer" <donlattimer@...> > >Reply-To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com > >To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com > >Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Camber adjustment > >Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 18:16:17 -0000 > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > MarcosManiacs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
2003-07-25 by Don Lattimer
----- Original Message -----From: Garry DiverSent: Friday, July 25, 2003 7:59 AMSubject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Camber adjustmentDon,
Sorry for the delayed reply but I have been travelling.
When the car is jacked up it should have about 5' positive in full droop.
Also the 'normal' position of the upper and lower A arms should have a
slight downward tilt ( inside to out) when the car is in its normal position
on the wheels( no driver) . The original setting was 0' on the springs sold
with the car. If your car shows negative camber in the normal settled
position then you may have shortened springs. If this is the case let me
know your spring length and I will check for you. Ideally you need to also
check the bumpsteer which will also give the same tire wear characteristics.
If the car has been lowered and the steering rack geometry has not been
changed the this could be the culprit. It sounds like you know how to check
all these things but if you need some help let me know. To answer your
specific question, raising the ride height will reduce negative camber.
Good luck
Garry Diver
3M5543
>From: "Don Lattimer"
>Reply-To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
>To:
>Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Camber adjustment
>Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:50:08 -0700
>
>Garry,
>
>Just jacked the car up a little while ago. Jacked the whole front up so
>wheels hang free. With the wheels at their lowest point (the shocks
>extended length) I have positive camber (top of wheel out further than the
>bottom. It appears that nothing is loose or excessively worn.
>
>Would raising the car with the adjustable height springs change the camber?
> I've got to freshen up my geometry I guess. I'm going to raise and lower
>the wheel thru its travel to see what the changes are.
>
>Have to get back to work so more tonight. Maybe........it's 105 degrees
>here now!
>
>Don Lattimer
>#3m5759
>
>
> ; ----- Original Message -----
> From: Garry Diver
> To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 1:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Camber adjustment
>
>
> Don,
> Since I have to run with 'standard' suspension in Historic racing I
>have
> been looking at some offset upper bushes. Also the wear rate will be
> impacted by the type of tire you run, i.e. radial vs bias ply. would 1'
>more
> positive do it for you?
>
> Garry
>
>
> >;From: "Don Lattimer"
> >Reply-To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> >To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Camber adjustment
> >Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 18:16:17 -0000
> >
>
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2003-07-28 by Don Lattimer
Mission accomplished. Camber is now set at 0 degrees. The front springs needed to be raised about 1/2 inch to achieve 0 degrees. Now I need to raise the rear 1/2 inch. Seeing as how my ground clearance was 3 inches, I guess another 1/2 inch can only help! Don Lattimer #3m5759 --- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, "Don Lattimer" <donlattimer@p...> wrote: > Garry, > > Thanks. I replaced the original shocks with AVO adjustable shocks. They are adjustable in height (threaded shock body) and damping. What I did not do is adjust the front shock height after install. Obviously that is this weekends job. It will raise the front but hopefully not so it detracts from the looks. I can raise the rear also if needed. > > Live and learn I guess. > > Don Lattimer > #3m5759 > Willits, CA, USA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Garry Diver > To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 7:59 AM > Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Camber adjustment > > > Don, > Sorry for the delayed reply but I have been travelling. > When the car is jacked up it should have about 5' positive in full droop. > Also the 'normal' position of the upper and lower A arms should have a > slight downward tilt ( inside to out) when the car is in its normal position > on the wheels( no driver) . The original setting was 0' on the springs sold > with the car. If your car shows negative camber in the normal settled > position then you may have shortened springs. If this is the case let me > know your spring length and I will check for you. Ideally you need to also > check the bumpsteer which will also give the same tire wear characteristics. > If the car has been lowered and the steering rack geometry has not been > changed the this could be the culprit. It sounds like you know how to check > all these things but if you need some help let me know. To answer your > specific question, raising the ride height will reduce negative camber. > Good luck > Garry Diver > 3M5543 > > > >From: "Don Lattimer" <donlattimer@p...> > >Reply-To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com > >To: <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> > >Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Camber adjustment > >Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:50:08 -0700 > > > >Garry, > > > >Just jacked the car up a little while ago. Jacked the whole front up so > >wheels hang free. With the wheels at their lowest point (the shocks > >extended length) I have positive camber (top of wheel out further than the > >bottom. It appears that nothing is loose or excessively worn. > > > >Would raising the car with the adjustable height springs change the camber? > > I've got to freshen up my geometry I guess. I'm going to raise and lower > >the wheel thru its travel to see what the changes are. > > > >Have to get back to work so more tonight. Maybe........it's 105 degrees > >here now! > > > >Don Lattimer > >#3m5759 > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Garry Diver > > To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 1:00 PM > > Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Camber adjustment > > > > > > Don, > > Since I have to run with 'standard' suspension in Historic racing I > >have > > been looking at some offset upper bushes. Also the wear rate will be > > impacted by the type of tire you run, i.e. radial vs bias ply. would 1' > >more > > positive do it for you? > > > > Garry > > > > > > >From: "Don Lattimer" <donlattimer@p...> > > >Reply-To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com > > >To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com > > >Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Camber adjustment > > >Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 18:16:17 -0000 > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > MarcosManiacs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > MarcosManiacs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
2003-07-29 by Stephen Spalding
----- Original Message -----From: Don LattimerSent: Monday, July 28, 2003 2:28 PMSubject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Camber adjustmentMission accomplished. Camber is now set at 0 degrees. The front
springs needed to be raised about 1/2 inch to achieve 0 degrees.
Now I need to raise the rear 1/2 inch. Seeing as how my ground
clearance was 3 inches, I guess another 1/2 inch can only help!
Don Lattimer
#3m5759
--- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, "Don Lattimer"
<donlattimer@p...> wrote:
> Garry,
>
> Thanks. I replaced the original shocks with AVO adjustable
shocks. They are adjustable in height (threaded shock body) and
damping. What I did not do is adjust the front shock height after
install. Obviously that is this weekends job. It will raise the
front but hopefully not so it detracts from the looks. I can raise
the rear also if needed.
>
> Live and learn I guess.
>
> Don Lattimer
> #3m5759
> Willits, CA, USA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Garry Diver
>; To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 7:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Camber adjustment
>
>
> Don,
> Sorry for the delayed reply but I have been travelling.
> When the car is jacked up it should have about 5' positive in
full droop.
> Also the 'normal' position of the upper and lower A arms should
have a
> slight downward tilt ( inside to out) when the car is in its
normal position
> on the wheels( no driver) . The original setting was 0' on the
springs sold
> with the car. If your car shows negative camber in the normal
settled
> position then you may have shortened springs. If this is the
case let me
> know your spring length and I will check for you. Ideally you
need to also
> check the bumpsteer which will also give the same tire wear
characteristics.
> If the car has been lowered and the steering rack geometry has
not been
> changed the this could be the culprit. It sounds like you know
how to check
> all these things but if you need some help let me know. To
answer your
> specific question, raising the ride height will reduce negative
camber.
> Good luck
> Garry Diver
> 3M5543
>
>
> >From: "Don Lattimer"
> >Reply-To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> >To:
> >Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Camber adjustment
> >Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:50:08 -0700
> >
> >Garry,
> >
> >Just jacked the car up a little while ago. Jacked the whole
front up so
> >wheels hang free. With the wheels at their lowest point (the
shocks
> >extended length) I have positive camber (top of wheel out
further than the
> >bottom. It appears that nothing is loose or excessively worn.
> >
> >Would raising the car with the adjustable height springs change
the camber?
> > I've got to freshen up my geometry I guess. I'm going to
raise and lower
> >the wheel thru its travel to see what the changes are.
> >
> >Have to get back to work so more tonight. Maybe........it's
105 degrees
> >here now!
> >
> >Don Lattimer
> >;#3m5759
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Garry Diver
> > To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 1:00 PM
> > Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Camber adjustment
> >
> >
> > Don,
> > Since I have to run with 'standard' suspension in
Historic racing I
> >have
> > been looking at some offset upper bushes. Also the wear rate
will be
> > impacted by the type of tire you run, i.e. radial vs bias
ply. would 1'
> >more
> >; positive do it for you?
> >
> > Garry
> >
> >
> > >From: "Don Lattimer"
> > >Reply-To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> > >To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Camber adjustment
> > >Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 18:16:17 -0000
> > >
> >
> >
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2003-07-29 by Garry Diver
2003-07-31 by Dave Barton
Hi Stephen and all
The window crank mechanisms for a 1969 at least are out of a
1969 Vauxhall Viscount........the motors I think are you basic GM
Delco unit which you should be able to source from a part # on the
origional.
Cheers Dave #5577
-- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Spalding"
<tess254@c...> wrote:
> Don
> Good to hear you are back on the road! I'm back on the road after
my oil cooler radiator installation, been getting out and enjoying
the car! Two questions:
> One, I think you replaced the heater air intake hose (from the
fan to the fire wall), what source did you use?
> Two, did we get a final on the window lift units, I'm thing
about rebuilding/replacing mine?
> Hope we can get the bay area cars together soon!
> Thanks
> Stephen Spalding
> 5916T
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Don Lattimer
> To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 2:28 PM
> Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Camber adjustment
>
>
> Mission accomplished. Camber is now set at 0 degrees. The front
> springs needed to be raised about 1/2 inch to achieve 0 degrees.
> Now I need to raise the rear 1/2 inch. Seeing as how my ground
> clearance was 3 inches, I guess another 1/2 inch can only help!
>
> Don Lattimer
> #3m5759
>
>
> --- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, "Don Lattimer"
> <donlattimer@p...> wrote:
> > Garry,
> >
> > Thanks. I replaced the original shocks with AVO adjustable
> shocks. They are adjustable in height (threaded shock body) and
> damping. What I did not do is adjust the front shock height
after
> install. Obviously that is this weekends job. It will raise the
> front but hopefully not so it detracts from the looks. I can
raise
> the rear also if needed.
> >
> > Live and learn I guess.
> >
> > Don Lattimer
> > #3m5759
> > Willits, CA, USA
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Garry Diver
> > To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 7:59 AM
> > Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Camber adjustment
> >
> >
> > Don,
> > Sorry for the delayed reply but I have been travelling.
> > When the car is jacked up it should have about 5' positive
in
> full droop.
> > Also the 'normal' position of the upper and lower A arms
should
> have a
> > slight downward tilt ( inside to out) when the car is in its
> normal position
> > on the wheels( no driver) . The original setting was 0' on
the
> springs sold
> > with the car. If your car shows negative camber in the normal
> settled
> > position then you may have shortened springs. If this is the
> case let me
> > know your spring length and I will check for you. Ideally you
> need to also
> > check the bumpsteer which will also give the same tire wear
> characteristics.
> > If the car has been lowered and the steering rack geometry
has
> not been
> > changed the this could be the culprit. It sounds like you
know
> how to check
> > all these things but if you need some help let me know. To
> answer your
> > specific question, raising the ride height will reduce
negative
> camber.
> > Good luck
> > Garry Diver
> > 3M5543
> >
> >
> > >From: "Don Lattimer" <donlattimer@p...>
> > >Reply-To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> > >To: <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com>
> > >Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Camber adjustment
> > >Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:50:08 -0700
> > >
> > >Garry,
> > >
> > >Just jacked the car up a little while ago. Jacked the whole
> front up so
> > >wheels hang free. With the wheels at their lowest point
(the
> shocks
> > >extended length) I have positive camber (top of wheel out
> further than the
> > >bottom. It appears that nothing is loose or excessively
worn.
> > >
> > >Would raising the car with the adjustable height springs
change
> the camber?
> > > I've got to freshen up my geometry I guess. I'm going to
> raise and lower
> > >the wheel thru its travel to see what the changes are.
> > >
> > >Have to get back to work so more tonight. Maybe........it's
> 105 degrees
> > >here now!
> > >
> > >Don Lattimer
> > >#3m5759
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Garry Diver
> > > To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 1:00 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Camber adjustment
> > >
> > >
> > > Don,
> > > Since I have to run with 'standard' suspension in
> Historic racing I
> > >have
> > > been looking at some offset upper bushes. Also the wear
rate
> will be
> > > impacted by the type of tire you run, i.e. radial vs bias
> ply. would 1'
> > >more
> > > positive do it for you?
> > >
> > > Garry
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Don Lattimer" <donlattimer@p...>
> > > >Reply-To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> > > >To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> > > >Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Camber adjustment
> > > >Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 18:16:17 -0000
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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----- Original Message -----From: Dave BartonSent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 5:39 PMSubject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Camber adjustmentHi Stephen and all
The window crank mechanisms for a 1969 at least are out of a
1969 Vauxhall Viscount........the motors I think are you basic GM
Delco unit which you should be able to source from a part # on the
origional.
; Cheers Dave #5577
-- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Spalding"
<tess254@c...> wrote:
> Don
> Good to hear you are back on the road! I'm back on the road after
my oil cooler radiator installation, been getting out and enjoying
the car! Two questions:
> One, I think you replaced the heater air intake hose (from the
fan to the fire wall), what source did you use?
> Two, did we get a final on the window lift units, I'm thing
about rebuilding/replacing mine?
> Hope we can get the bay area cars together soon!
> Thanks
> Stephen Spalding
> 5916T
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Don Lattimer
> To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 2:28 PM
> Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Camber adjustment
>
>
> Mission accomplished. Camber is now set at 0 degrees. The front
> springs needed to be raised about 1/2 inch to achieve 0 degrees.
> Now I need to raise the rear 1/2 inch. Seeing as how my ground
> clearance was 3 inches, I guess another 1/2 inch can only help!
>
> Don Lattimer
> #3m5759
>
>
> --- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, "Don Lattimer"
> wrote:
> ; > Garry,
> >
> > Thanks. I replaced the original shocks with AVO adjustable
> shocks. They are adjustable in height (threaded shock body) and
> damping. What I did not do is adjust the front shock height
after
> install. Obviously that is this weekends job. It will raise the
> front but hopefully not so it detracts from the looks. I can
raise
> the rear also if needed.
> >
> > Live and learn I guess.
> >
> > Don Lattimer
> > #3m5759
> > Willits, CA, USA
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Garry Diver
> > To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 7:59 AM
> > Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Camber adjustment
> >
> >
> > Don,
> > Sorry for the delayed reply but I have been travelling.
> > When the car is jacked up it should have about 5' positive
in
> full droop.
> > Also the 'normal' position of the upper and lower A arms
should
> have a
> > slight downward tilt ( inside to out) when the car is in its
> normal position
> > on the wheels( no driver) . The original setting was 0' on
the
> springs sold
> > with the car. If your car shows negative camber in the normal
> settled
> > position then you may have shortened springs. If this is the
> case let me
> > know your spring length and I will check for you. Ideally you
> need to also
> > check the bumpsteer which will also give the same tire wear
> characteristics.
> > If the car has been lowered and the steering rack geometry
has
> not been
> > changed the this could be the culprit. It sounds like you
know
> how to check
> > all these things but if you need some help let me know. To
> answer your
> > specific question, raising the ride height will reduce
negative
> camber.
> > Good luck
> > Garry Diver
> > 3M5543
> >
> >
> > >From: "Don Lattimer"
> > >Reply-To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> > >To:
> > >Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Camber adjustment
> > >Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:50:08 -0700
> > >
> > >Garry,
> > >
> > >Just jacked the car up a little while ago. Jacked the whole
> front up so
> > >wheels hang free. With the wheels at their lowest point
(the
> shocks
> > >extended length) I have positive camber (top of wheel out
> further than the
> > >bottom. It appears that nothing is loose or excessively
worn.
> > >
> > >Would raising the car with the adjustable height springs
change
> the camber?
> > > I've got to freshen up my geometry I guess. I'm going to
> raise and lower
> > >the wheel thru its travel to see what the changes are.
> > >
> > >Have to get back to work so more tonight. Maybe........it's
> 105 degrees
> > >here now!
> > >
> > >Don Lattimer
> > >#3m5759
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Garry Diver
> > > To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 1:00 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Camber adjustment
> > >
> > >
> > > Don,
> > > Since I have to run with 'standard' suspension in
> Historic racing I
> > >have
> > > been looking at some offset upper bushes. Also the wear
rate
> will be
> > > impacted by the type of tire you run, i.e. radial vs bias
>; ply. would 1'
> > >more
> > > positive do it for you?
> > >
> > > Garry
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Don Lattimer"
> > > >Reply-To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> > ; > >To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> > > >Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Camber adjustment
> > > >Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 18:16:17 -0000
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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----- Original Message -----From: Stephen SpaldingSent: Monday, July 28, 2003 5:05 PMSubject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Camber adjustmentDonGood to hear you are back on the road! I'm back on the road after my oil cooler radiator installation, been getting out and enjoying the car! Two questions:One, I think you replaced the heater air intake hose (from the fan to the fire wall), what source did you use?Two, did we get a final on the window lift units, I'm thing about rebuilding/replacing mine?Hope we can get the bay area cars together soon!ThanksStephen Spalding5916T----- Original Message -----From: Don LattimerSent: Monday, July 28, 2003 2:28 PMSubject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Camber adjustmentMission accomplished. Camber is now set at 0 degrees. The front
springs needed to be raised about 1/2 inch to achieve 0 degrees.
Now I need to raise the rear 1/2 inch. Seeing as how my ground
clearance was 3 inches, I guess another 1/2 inch can only help!
Don Lattimer
#3m5759
--- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, "Don Lattimer"
<donlattimer@p...> wrote:
> Garry,
>
> Thanks. I replaced the original shocks with AVO adjustable
shocks. They are adjustable in height (threaded shock body) and
damping. What I did not do is adjust the front shock height after
install. Obviously that is this weekends job. It will raise the
front but hopefully not so it detracts from the looks. I can raise
the rear also if needed.
>
> Live and learn I guess.
>
> Don Lattimer
> #3m5759
> Willits, CA, USA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Garry Diver
> To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 7:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Camber adjustment
>
>
> Don,
> Sorry for the delayed reply but I have been travelling.
> When the car is jacked up it should have about 5' positive in
full droop.
> Also the 'normal' position of the upper and lower A arms should
have a
> slight downward tilt ( inside to out) when the car is in its
normal position
> on the wheels( no driver) . The original setting was 0' on the
springs sold
> with the car. If your car shows negative camber in the normal
settled
> position then you may have shortened springs. If this is the
case let me
> know your spring length and I will check for you. Ideally you
need to also
> check the bumpsteer which will also give the same tire wear
characteristics.
> If the car has been lowered and the steering rack geometry has
not been
> changed the this could be the culprit. It sounds like you know
how to check
> all these things but if you need some help let me know. To
answer your
> specific question, raising the ride height will reduce negative
camber.
> Good luck
> Garry Diver
> 3M5543
>
>
> >From: "Don Lattimer"
> >Reply-To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> >To:
> >Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Camber adjustment
> >Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:50:08 -0700
>; >
> >Garry,
> >
> >Just jacked the car up a little while ago. Jacked the whole
front up so
> >wheels hang free. With the wheels at their lowest point (the
shocks
> >extended length) I have positive camber (top of wheel out
further than the
> >bottom. It appears that nothing is loose or excessively worn.
> >
> >Would raising the car with the adjustable height springs change
the camber?
> > I've got to freshen up my geometry I guess. I'm going to
raise and lower
> >the wheel thru its travel to see what the changes are.
> >
> >Have to get back to work so more tonight. Maybe........it's
105 degrees
> >here now!
> >
> >Don Lattimer
> >#3m5759
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Garry Diver
> > To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> >; Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 1:00 PM
> > Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Camber adjustment
>; >
> >
> > Don,
> > Since I have to run with 'standard' suspension in
Historic racing I
> >have
> > been looking at some offset upper bushes. Also the wear rate
will be
> > impacted by the type of tire you run, i.e. radial vs bias
ply. would 1'
> >;more
> > positive do it for you?
> >
> > Garry
> >
> >
> > >From: "Don Lattimer"
> > >Reply-To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> > >To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Camber adjustment
> > >Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 18:16:17 -0000
> > >
> >
> >
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2003-07-31 by Stephen Spalding
----- Original Message -----From: Don LattimerSent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 8:26 AMSubject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Camber adjustmentStephen,I haven't replaced the intake hose but I saw on the TVR list that someone replaced theirs with a metallic hose they purchased from Home Depot. Said it looks great and fits! I haven't had time to check it out yet.Don#3M5759----- Original Message -----From: Stephen SpaldingSent: Monday, July 28, 2003 5:05 PMSubject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Camber adjustmentDonGood to hear you are back on the road! I'm back on the road after my oil cooler radiator installation, been getting out and enjoying the car! Two questions:One, I think you replaced the heater air intake hose (from the fan to the fire wall), what source did you use?Two, did we get a final on the window lift units, I'm thing about rebuilding/replacing mine?Hope we can get the bay area cars together soon!ThanksStephen Spalding5916T----- Original Message -----From: Don LattimerSent: Monday, July 28, 2003 2:28 PMSubject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Camber adjustmentMission accomplished. Camber is now set at 0 degrees. The front
springs needed to be raised about 1/2 inch to achieve 0 degrees.
Now I need to raise the rear 1/2 inch. Seeing as how my ground
clearance was 3 inches, I guess another 1/2 inch can only help!
Don Lattimer
#3m5759
--- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, "Don Lattimer"
<donlattimer@p...> wrote:
> Garry,
>
> Thanks. I replaced the original shocks with AVO adjustable
shocks. They are adjustable in height (threaded shock body) and
damping. What I did not do is adjust the front shock height after
install. Obviously that is this weekends job. It will raise the
front but hopefully not so it detracts from the looks. I can raise
the rear also if needed.
>
> Live and learn I guess.
>
> Don Lattimer
> #3m5759
> Willits, CA, USA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Garry Diver
> To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 7:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Camber adjustment
>
>
> Don,
> Sorry for the delayed reply but I have been travelling.
> When the car is jacked up it should have about 5' positive in
full droop.
> Also the 'normal' position of the upper and lower A arms should
have a
> slight downward tilt ( inside to out) when the car is in its
normal position
> on the wheels( no driver) . The original setting was 0' on the
springs sold
> with the car. If your car shows negative camber in the normal
settled
> position then you may have shortened springs. If this is the
case let me
> know your spring length and I will check for you. Ideally you
need to also
> check the bumpsteer which will also give the same tire wear
characteristics.
> If the car has been lowered and the steering rack geometry has
not been
> changed the this could be the culprit. It sounds like you know
how to check
> all these things but if you need some help let me know. To
answer your
> specific question, raising the ride height will reduce negative
camber.
> Good luck
> Garry Diver
> 3M5543
>
>
> >From: "Don Lattimer"
> >Reply-To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> >To:
> >Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Camber adjustment
> >Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:50:08 -0700
> >
> ; >Garry,
> >
> >Just jacked the car up a little while ago. Jacked the whole
front up so
> >wheels hang free. With the wheels at their lowest point (the
shocks
> ; >extended length) I have positive camber (top of wheel out
further than the
> >bottom. It appears that nothing is loose or excessively worn.
> >
> >Would raising the car with the adjustable height springs change
the camber?
> > I've got to freshen up my geometry I guess. I'm going to
raise and lower
> >the wheel thru its travel to see what the changes are.
> >
> >Have to get back to work so more tonight. Maybe........it's
105 degrees
> >here now!
> ; >
> >Don Lattimer
> ; >#3m5759
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
>; > From: Garry Diver
> > To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 1:00 PM
> > Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Camber adjustment
> >
> >
> > Don,
> > Since I have to run with 'standard' suspension in
Historic racing I
> >have
> ; > been looking at some offset upper bushes. Also the wear rate
will be
> > impacted by the type of tire you run, i.e. radial vs bias
ply. would 1'
> >more
> > positive do it for you?
> >
> > Garry
> >
> >
> > >From: "Don Lattimer"
> > >Reply-To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> >; >To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Camber adjustment
> > >Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 18:16:17 -0000
> > >
> >
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