Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Marcos
Glass.... revisited
A few years ago I was
approached to join a group having new glass screens made for the gullwings/fastbacks. The cost was nowhere near these
numbers. I seem to recall that I could have had a spare screen for about $1000
- $1200 - and there certainly aren't enough surviving cars to consume a 20
screen minimum order +
tooling.
Per Haegermark (contact throught the
Swedish Marcos Owners Club website) may have the details - I'm not sure I
still have them. The (then) owner of the ex-Derek
Bell fastback was the
originator of the order.
David
McCubbin
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From: McCubbin,
David
Sent: Thursday,
September 05, 2002 11:54 AM
To: McCubbin, David
Subject: FW: [MarcosManiacs] Marcos
Glass.... revisited
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From:
pauldransfield@iname.com [mailto:pauldransfield@...]
Sent: Thursday,
September 05, 2002
11:23
AM
To:
MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: FW: [MarcosManiacs] Marcos
Glass.... revisited
;
I
spoke today with another representative of Pilkington Classics from the
US
who is tasked with importing windshields for classic cars - Jaguar, Lotus,
Opel etc. He sent an enquiry to Pilkington in England to determine if he could
perform a similar task for the Marcos and found that the rights to the tooling
was owned by the Marcos Owners Club. They paid for the tooling and control the
rights to the screens and only they can order screens from Pilkington. The
screens ordered in this manner would have to be shipped by them or their
representative, meaning us. Pilkington will not facilitate the process for
us.
There
is the option of having new tooling performed here but that process is
now performed in Mexico.
Front and rear screens would have to be shipped to the factory in
Mexico
from which they would make the molds. There is a US$5000 deposit
required (not CAN$5000 as I noted earlier) before the process can be started
and the factory would then have to determine the final costs based on the
complexity of the job. There would then be a 20 screen minimum order for
each of the front and rear screens. The rep told me that, based on the photos
I sent him, the rear screen would be quite tricky to manufacture from his
experience. The gist of the matter is that it wouldn't appear cost effective
for us to go this route but that's not for me to finally
determine.
The
Pilkington rep said that another option would be to go through a company
called Win Manufacturing in Elmira,
New
York.
This company advertises in Old Cars Weekly magazine that they manufacture
windshields. I have an 800 number for them. I'll call and see what
response I get and pass the information along. After that, someone else is
going to have to carry the ball from here on.
Unfortunately,
it doesn't look like there's an easy solution to the problem and it might be
better to go through the Marcos Owners Club in the end, especially for the
glass rear screens. The company I used for shipping the Coupe and Mantis
screens could be used to distribute the order appropriately. It's time
consuming but it produced the desired results for me.
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From:
Dransfield, Paul
Sent:
August 20, 2002 5:19 PM
To:
'MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Marcos
Glass.... revisited
I spoke
today with a representative of EOF Pilkington Classics which owns the
glass manufacturing facility north of Toronto.
During the initial part of our conversation, he told me that they would be
willing to undertake the project but there was a prerequisite requirement for
20 units of each type and a deposit of CAN$5000 before they would undertake
the manufacture of the molds. However, when I mentioned that Pilkington in
England
had molds of both screens, he proposed talking to a counterpart in the
US
who sourced hard-to-find items and suggested this colleague might be able to
sort something out. I sent him photos of the front and rear coupe screens to
assist in the search and hopefully he will get back to me soon. There was no
available estimate on cost at this stage but I hope to be able to get one
soon. As soon as I hear anything further, I'll pass it
along.
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From: Jeff
Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@...]
Sent: July
17, 2002
1:14
PM
To:
MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Marcos
Glass.... revisited
Hi
All,
I have
heard back from Hayes on the Polycarbonate rear
windows.
Here
is the information he passed along:
Price $250.00
each
Shipping (in
the US): around $45.00
each
Hayes much
prefers these as they are much more forgiving and easier to work with than a
glass rear window.
To re-cap other
quotes>>>>>>
Marcos Heritage
Spares prices:
Rear
Glass Screens ; $345.00
each
Front
glass
$452.00 each
Rear
Perspex
$145.00 each
Shipping from the
UK to one destination
for 5 fronts and 10 rears $3216.00 (rough
estimate)
Customs:
??
Shipping inside of
the US to each
destination: ?? (would most likely be more than the $45.00 Hayes quoted
since the glass is heavier).
Paul
Crocker of the Marcos Club:
Rear
Glass Screens $220.00
each (rough estimate)
Front
glass
$267.00 each (rough estimate)
Shipping from the
UK to one destination
for 5 fronts and 10 rears: ??
Customs:
??
Shipping inside of
the US to each
destination: ?? (would most likely be more than the $45.00 Hayes quoted
since the glass is heavier).
To get
the items from Marcos Heritage or through Paul Crocker, we would also need
someone here in the US willing to part
them out and ship them to their individual
destinations.
So,
here are my questions to the group:
1.
Is
anyone still interested? Drop it or continue????
2.
Paul,
can we contact the glass company in
Canada and get
estimates?
3.
Is it
worth contacting the glass company in the
UK (Pilkingtons), if
we will face the same sort of shipping charges?
Everyone that was
interested, please LMK your feelings on this
issue!
Jeff
#8052
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