Marcos Maniacs

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From: McCubbin, David

To: 'MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com'

Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 8:59 AM

Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Marcos Glass.... revisited

A few years ago I was approached to join a group having new glass screens made for the gullwings/fastbacks. The cost was nowhere near these numbers. I seem to recall that I could have had a spare screen for about $1000 - $1200 - and there certainly aren't enough surviving cars to consume a 20 screen minimum order + tooling.

Per Haegermark (contact throught the Swedish Marcos Owners Club website) may have the details - I'm not sure I still have them. The (then) owner of the ex-Derek Bell fastback was the originator of the order.

David McCubbin

-----Original Message-----
From: McCubbin, David
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 11:54 AM
To: McCubbin, David
Subject: FW: [MarcosManiacs] Marcos Glass.... revisited

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From: pauldransfield@iname.com [mailto:pauldransfield@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 11:23 AM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: FW: [MarcosManiacs] Marcos Glass.... revisited

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Hi again guys,

I spoke today with another representative of Pilkington Classics from the US who is tasked with importing windshields for classic cars - Jaguar, Lotus, Opel etc. He sent an enquiry to Pilkington in England to determine if he could perform a similar task for the Marcos and found that the rights to the tooling was owned by the Marcos Owners Club. They paid for the tooling and control the rights to the screens and only they can order screens from Pilkington. The screens ordered in this manner would have to be shipped by them or their representative, meaning us. Pilkington will not facilitate the process for us.

There is the option of having new tooling performed here but that process is now performed in Mexico. Front and rear screens would have to be shipped to the factory in Mexico from which they would make the molds. There is a US$5000 deposit required (not CAN$5000 as I noted earlier) before the process can be started and the factory would then have to determine the final costs based on the complexity of the job. There would then be a 20 screen minimum order for each of the front and rear screens. The rep told me that, based on the photos I sent him, the rear screen would be quite tricky to manufacture from his experience. The gist of the matter is that it wouldn't appear cost effective for us to go this route but that's not for me to finally determine.

The Pilkington rep said that another option would be to go through a company called Win Manufacturing in Elmira, New York. This company advertises in Old Cars Weekly magazine that they manufacture windshields. I have an 800 number for them. I'll call and see what response I get and pass the information along. After that, someone else is going to have to carry the ball from here on.

Unfortunately, it doesn't look like there's an easy solution to the problem and it might be better to go through the Marcos Owners Club in the end, especially for the glass rear screens. The company I used for shipping the Coupe and Mantis screens could be used to distribute the order appropriately. It's time consuming but it produced the desired results for me.

Regards,

Paul Dransfield

3 litre Volvo

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From: Dransfield, Paul
Sent: August 20, 2002 5:19 PM
To: 'MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Marcos Glass.... revisited

Hi guys,

I spoke today with a representative of EOF Pilkington Classics which owns the glass manufacturing facility north of Toronto. During the initial part of our conversation, he told me that they would be willing to undertake the project but there was a prerequisite requirement for 20 units of each type and a deposit of CAN$5000 before they would undertake the manufacture of the molds. However, when I mentioned that Pilkington in England had molds of both screens, he proposed talking to a counterpart in the US who sourced hard-to-find items and suggested this colleague might be able to sort something out. I sent him photos of the front and rear coupe screens to assist in the search and hopefully he will get back to me soon. There was no available estimate on cost at this stage but I hope to be able to get one soon. As soon as I hear anything further, I'll pass it along.

Regards,

Paul Dransfield

3 litre Volvo

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From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@...]
Sent: July 17, 2002 1:14 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Marcos Glass.... revisited

Hi All,

I have heard back from Hayes on the Polycarbonate rear windows.

Here is the information he passed along:

Price $250.00 each

Shipping (in the US): around $45.00 each

Hayes much prefers these as they are much more forgiving and easier to work with than a glass rear window.

To re-cap other quotes>>>>>>

Marcos Heritage Spares prices:

Rear Glass Screens ; $345.00 each

Front glass $452.00 each

Rear Perspex $145.00 each

Shipping from the UK to one destination for 5 fronts and 10 rears $3216.00 (rough estimate)

Customs: ??

Shipping inside of the US to each destination: ?? (would most likely be more than the $45.00 Hayes quoted since the glass is heavier).

Paul Crocker of the Marcos Club:

Rear Glass Screens $220.00 each (rough estimate)

Front glass $267.00 each (rough estimate)

Shipping from the UK to one destination for 5 fronts and 10 rears: ??

Customs: ??

Shipping inside of the US to each destination: ?? (would most likely be more than the $45.00 Hayes quoted since the glass is heavier).

To get the items from Marcos Heritage or through Paul Crocker, we would also need someone here in the US willing to part them out and ship them to their individual destinations.

So, here are my questions to the group:

1. Is anyone still interested? Drop it or continue????

2. Paul, can we contact the glass company in Canada and get estimates?

3. Is it worth contacting the glass company in the UK (Pilkingtons), if we will face the same sort of shipping charges?

Everyone that was interested, please LMK your feelings on this issue!

Jeff

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