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Missing Notes

2004-08-23 by ataboyal2001

Hey Guys,


    I have a problem with a SX210 I have.It seems about every 4th or 
5th note is dead.Is something wrong----would the battery I hear you 
guys talk about do something like this?????Please, any help would be 
appreciated----don't know anything about keyboards!!   ataboyal2001

Re: [kawai_sx210] Missing Notes

2004-08-23 by esasafrazz@fastmail.fm

this sounds more like a key contact problem, (maybe dirty) or a dead 
voice maybe ?
Im certainly no expert though

Whatever you do, definetly get it fixed, you have a special, underrated 
  synth!!
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On Aug 23, 2004, at 7:16 PM, ataboyal2001 wrote:

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>      I have a problem with a SX210 I have.It seems about every 4th or
>  5th note is dead.Is something wrong----would the battery I hear you
>  guys talk about do something like this?????Please, any help would be
>  appreciated----don't know anything about keyboards!!   ataboyal2001
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Re: [kawai_sx210] Missing Notes

2004-08-24 by Alan Johnston

Thanks for the advice!I think I might take it to someone who knows what they are doing!!I've had this thing under my bed for about 10 years!!LOL  ataboyal

esasafrazz@... wrote:this sounds more like a key contact problem, (maybe dirty) or a dead 
voice maybe ?
Im certainly no expert though

Whatever you do, definetly get it fixed, you have a special, underrated 
synth!!

On Aug 23, 2004, at 7:16 PM, ataboyal2001 wrote:

>
>     Hey Guys,
>
>
>     I have a problem with a SX210 I have.It seems about every 4th or
> 5th note is dead.Is something wrong----would the battery I hear you
> guys talk about do something like this?????Please, any help would be
> appreciated----don't know anything about keyboards!!   ataboyal2001
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Re: Missing Notes

2004-09-02 by gil_we

I suspect that the battery has leaked inside. If this is the case the
fix is not simple at all, and I'd suggest that you try to contact one
of the guys doing synth board repairs and recovery such as Oldcrow
(look on google). This assumption is due to the age of the unit.

However, following your description, it might be a dead chip in the 
voice section (oscillator or EG of one particular voice). I had a 
particulat voice problem happenning TWICE, on each once I found the 
exact same chip dead on two different voice EG sections. It was a 
4xxx chip which is known to have life span of about 15 years or so.

If you know some electronic diagnostics and repair I can give you
some direction of how to try to determine the bad chip. But first of
all open it up and look at the battery (white, on the middle,
processor board). If it is good and has not leaked REPLACE IT NOW !!!
because it is going to every second. Any electronic technician can do
this very easily. If the battery's OK so you're good. You just have
to determine the bad chip, which I'm almost sure is laying on the
circuit of the bad voice oscillator or EG section.

This synth definately worths fixing. I just got an Emu
sampler to which I'm going to sample every analog unit I have as it
seems they are all going to die in a few years... These 4xxx chips 
are all going to die soon I assume, not taking about other components 
of course as capacitor for example. I don't give them too many years 
from now.




--- In kawai_sx210@yahoogroups.com, Alan Johnston <ataboyal2001@y...> 
wrote:
> Thanks for the advice!I think I might take it to someone who knows 
what they are doing!!I've had this thing under my bed for about 10 
years!!LOL  ataboyal
> 
> esasafrazz@f... wrote:this sounds more like a key contact problem, 
(maybe dirty) or a dead 
> voice maybe ?
> Im certainly no expert though
> 
> Whatever you do, definetly get it fixed, you have a special, 
underrated 
> synth!!
> 
> On Aug 23, 2004, at 7:16 PM, ataboyal2001 wrote:
> 
> >
> >     Hey Guys,
> >
> >
> >     I have a problem with a SX210 I have.It seems about every 4th 
or
> > 5th note is dead.Is something wrong----would the battery I hear 
you
> > guys talk about do something like this?????Please, any help would 
be
> > appreciated----don't know anything about keyboards!!   
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Re: [kawai_sx210] Re: Missing Notes

2004-09-11 by Alan Johnston

Thanks gil_wil,
 
   Hopefully it isn't the battery and I don't know anything about electronics so I'm gonna take it to someone does and I will get that battery replaced because I'm sure it hasn't been.        Thanks Again    AJ

gil_we <gil_we@...> wrote:
I suspect that the battery has leaked inside. If this is the case the
fix is not simple at all, and I'd suggest that you try to contact one
of the guys doing synth board repairs and recovery such as Oldcrow
(look on google). This assumption is due to the age of the unit.

However, following your description, it might be a dead voice or
EG chip on the voice board. EG chips are standard chips and are much
available but the voice chips are rare but may be available at ebay.

If you know some electronic diagnostics and repair I can give you 
some direction of how to try to determine the bad chip. But first of 
all open it up and look at the battery (white, on the middle, 
processor board). If it is good and has not leaked REPLACE IT NOW !!! 
because it is going to every second. Any electrinc technician can do 
this very easily. If the battery's OK so you're good. You just have 
to determine the bad chip, which I'm almost sure is laying on the 
circuit of the bad voice oscillator or EG section.

This synth definately worths fixing. I just got an Emu
sampler to which I'm going to sample every analog unit I have as it
seems they are all going to die in a few years... The 4xxx chips are
known to live for about 15 years, and considering the ones in the
SX210 and other vintage synths are about 25 years old, I don't give 
them too many years from now.




--- In kawai_sx210@yahoogroups.com, Alan Johnston <ataboyal2001@y...> 
wrote:
> Thanks for the advice!I think I might take it to someone who knows 
what they are doing!!I've had this thing under my bed for about 10 
years!!LOL  ataboyal
> 
> esasafrazz@f... wrote:this sounds more like a key contact problem, 
(maybe dirty) or a dead 
> voice maybe ?
> Im certainly no expert though
> 
> Whatever you do, definetly get it fixed, you have a special, 
underrated 
> synth!!
> 
> On Aug 23, 2004, at 7:16 PM, ataboyal2001 wrote:
> 
> >
> >     Hey Guys,
> >
> >
> >     I have a problem with a SX210 I have.It seems about every 4th 
or
> > 5th note is dead.Is something wrong----would the battery I hear 
you
> > guys talk about do something like this?????Please, any help would 
be
> > appreciated----don't know anything about keyboards!!   
ataboyal2001
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My 210 has a problem

2004-09-11 by esasafrazz@fastmail.fm

Upon trying to play my 210 the other night , I had a loud hum/noise in 
one channel and slight in the other channel.
Anyone have a clue ? I miss it already.
James

Re: My 210 has a problem

2004-09-13 by gil_we

Check out the cables


--- In kawai_sx210@yahoogroups.com, esasafrazz@f... wrote:
> 
> Upon trying to play my 210 the other night , I had a loud hum/noise 
in 
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> one channel and slight in the other channel.
> Anyone have a clue ? I miss it already.
> James

Re: Missing Notes

2004-09-15 by gil_we

From your description I tend to assume it's not the battery but a 
defective IC in the problematic oscillator.



--- In kawai_sx210@yahoogroups.com, Alan Johnston <ataboyal2001@y...> 
wrote:
> Thanks gil_wil,
>  
>    Hopefully it isn't the battery and I don't know anything about 
electronics so I'm gonna take it to someone does and I will get that 
battery replaced because I'm sure it hasn't been.        Thanks 
Again    AJ
> 
> gil_we <gil_we@y...> wrote:
> I suspect that the battery has leaked inside. If this is the case 
the
> fix is not simple at all, and I'd suggest that you try to contact 
one
> of the guys doing synth board repairs and recovery such as Oldcrow
> (look on google). This assumption is due to the age of the unit.
> 
> However, following your description, it might be a dead voice or
> EG chip on the voice board. EG chips are standard chips and are much
> available but the voice chips are rare but may be available at ebay.
> 
> If you know some electronic diagnostics and repair I can give you 
> some direction of how to try to determine the bad chip. But first 
of 
> all open it up and look at the battery (white, on the middle, 
> processor board). If it is good and has not leaked REPLACE IT 
NOW !!! 
> because it is going to every second. Any electrinc technician can 
do 
> this very easily. If the battery's OK so you're good. You just have 
> to determine the bad chip, which I'm almost sure is laying on the 
> circuit of the bad voice oscillator or EG section.
> 
> This synth definately worths fixing. I just got an Emu
> sampler to which I'm going to sample every analog unit I have as it
> seems they are all going to die in a few years... The 4xxx chips are
> known to live for about 15 years, and considering the ones in the
> SX210 and other vintage synths are about 25 years old, I don't give 
> them too many years from now.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In kawai_sx210@yahoogroups.com, Alan Johnston 
<ataboyal2001@y...> 
> wrote:
> > Thanks for the advice!I think I might take it to someone who 
knows 
> what they are doing!!I've had this thing under my bed for about 10 
> years!!LOL  ataboyal
> > 
> > esasafrazz@f... wrote:this sounds more like a key contact 
problem, 
> (maybe dirty) or a dead 
> > voice maybe ?
> > Im certainly no expert though
> > 
> > Whatever you do, definetly get it fixed, you have a special, 
> underrated 
> > synth!!
> > 
> > On Aug 23, 2004, at 7:16 PM, ataboyal2001 wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > >     Hey Guys,
> > >
> > >
> > >     I have a problem with a SX210 I have.It seems about every 
4th 
> or
> > > 5th note is dead.Is something wrong----would the battery I hear 
> you
> > > guys talk about do something like this?????Please, any help 
would 
> be
> > > appreciated----don't know anything about keyboards!!   
> ataboyal2001
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Re: [kawai_sx210] Re: My 210 has a problem

2004-09-15 by esasafrazz@fastmail.fm

cables work fine on JX-10
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> Check out the cables
>
>
>  --- In kawai_sx210@yahoogroups.com, esasafrazz@f... wrote:
>  >
>  > Upon trying to play my 210 the other night , I had a loud hum/noise
>  in
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>  > Anyone have a clue ? I miss it already.
>  > James
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Re: My 210 has a problem

2004-09-15 by gil_we

Is there any contact problem on the DB switch ?


--- In kawai_sx210@yahoogroups.com, esasafrazz@f... wrote:
> cables work fine on JX-10
> 
> On Sep 13, 2004, at 10:43 AM, gil_we wrote:
> 
> > Check out the cables
> >
> >
> >  --- In kawai_sx210@yahoogroups.com, esasafrazz@f... wrote:
> >  >
> >  > Upon trying to play my 210 the other night , I had a loud 
hum/noise
> >  in
> >  > one channel and slight in the other channel.
> >  > Anyone have a clue ? I miss it already.
> >  > James
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Re: [kawai_sx210] Re: My 210 has a problem

2004-09-15 by esasafrazz@fastmail.fm

Good news, it stopped doing it last night  : )
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On Sep 15, 2004, at 6:34 AM, gil_we wrote:

> Is there any contact problem on the DB switch ?
>
>
>  --- In kawai_sx210@yahoogroups.com, esasafrazz@f... wrote:
>  > cables work fine on JX-10
>  >
>  > On Sep 13, 2004, at 10:43 AM, gil_we wrote:
>  >
>  > > Check out the cables
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >  --- In kawai_sx210@yahoogroups.com, esasafrazz@f... wrote:
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Upon trying to play my 210 the other night , I had a loud
>  hum/noise
>  > >  in
>  > >  > one channel and slight in the other channel.
>  > >  > Anyone have a clue ? I miss it already.
>  > >  > James
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