Doepfer

This might have already been discussed, but...

I know the A129/3 does offsets, but might there be room for something 
like a simple dual offset generator module?

Regards,
Kevin

Wouldn't that be fairly easy to make yourself? A number of pots 15 
running from the internal power. Something like a CV source+ so that 
the 129 could be used as a filter bank, but much cheaper an space 
consuming. 
Or am I getting you wrong?


--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "code_pig" <code_pig@y...> wrote:
> This might have already been discussed, but...
> 
> I know the A129/3 does offsets, but might there be room for 
something 

> like a simple dual offset generator module?
> 
> Regards,
> Kevin

Hi,
I agree, this is something I am looking at building.
My a129 never gets used and I really want a fixed filter, so if I can 
make a module with 15 pots to control the a129/2 I got one.
Any ideas of best way to make it?

John
--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "pstnotpd" <psm@w...> wrote:
> Wouldn't that be fairly easy to make yourself? A number of pots 15 
> running from the internal power. Something like a CV source+ so 
that 
> the 129 could be used as a filter bank, but much cheaper an space 
> consuming. 
> Or am I getting you wrong?
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "code_pig" <code_pig@y...> 
wrote:

> > This might have already been discussed, but...
> > 
> > I know the A129/3 does offsets, but might there be room for 
> something 
> > like a simple dual offset generator module?
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Kevin

Actually, I just wanted a dual offset module because I really don't 
need (or have room for) and A129/3.  

I mean, I don't want to whine, but I really don't think it should be 
necessary for one to purchase the A129/3 (which really can't be fully 
expolited without the A129/4 Controller) when all one may need is a 
couple of offset generators.

Regards,
Kevin

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "jmaddocks1975" 
<jmaddocks1975@y...> wrote:
> Hi,
> I agree, this is something I am looking at building.
> My a129 never gets used and I really want a fixed filter, so if I 
can 
> make a module with 15 pots to control the a129/2 I got one.
> Any ideas of best way to make it?
> 
> John
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "pstnotpd" <psm@w...> wrote:
> > Wouldn't that be fairly easy to make yourself? A number of pots 
15 

> > running from the internal power. Something like a CV source+ so 
> that 
> > the 129 could be used as a filter bank, but much cheaper an space 
> > consuming. 
> > Or am I getting you wrong?
> > 
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "code_pig" <code_pig@y...> 
> wrote:
> > > This might have already been discussed, but...
> > > 
> > > I know the A129/3 does offsets, but might there be room for 
> > something 
> > > like a simple dual offset generator module?
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > Kevin

So why don't you run a +5 and the original signal through a linear 
138? That should do the trick, though it wouldn't save much space or 
money I suppose..... But then again, mixers are always usefull.

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "code_pig" <code_pig@y...> wrote:
> Actually, I just wanted a dual offset module because I really don't 
> need (or have room for) and A129/3.  
> 
> I mean, I don't want to whine, but I really don't think it should 
be 
> necessary for one to purchase the A129/3 (which really can't be 
fully 
> expolited without the A129/4 Controller) when all one may need is a 
> couple of offset generators.
> 
> Regards,
> Kevin
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "jmaddocks1975" 
> <jmaddocks1975@y...> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I agree, this is something I am looking at building.
> > My a129 never gets used and I really want a fixed filter, so if I 
> can 
> > make a module with 15 pots to control the a129/2 I got one.
> > Any ideas of best way to make it?
> > 
> > John
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "pstnotpd" <psm@w...> wrote:
> > > Wouldn't that be fairly easy to make yourself? A number of pots 
> 15 
> > > running from the internal power. Something like a CV source+ so 
> > that 
> > > the 129 could be used as a filter bank, but much cheaper an 
space 

> > > consuming. 
> > > Or am I getting you wrong?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "code_pig" <code_pig@y...> 
> > wrote:
> > > > This might have already been discussed, but...
> > > > 
> > > > I know the A129/3 does offsets, but might there be room for 
> > > something 
> > > > like a simple dual offset generator module?
> > > > 
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Kevin

I've been doing that, as well as using an inverter.  But really, I'd 
rather just have an offset module.

Regards,
Kevin

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "pstnotpd" <psm@w...> wrote:
> So why don't you run a +5 and the original signal through a linear 
> 138? That should do the trick, though it wouldn't save much space 
or 
> money I suppose..... But then again, mixers are always usefull.
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "code_pig" <code_pig@y...> 
wrote:
> > Actually, I just wanted a dual offset module because I really 
don't 
> > need (or have room for) and A129/3.  
> > 
> > I mean, I don't want to whine, but I really don't think it should 
> be 
> > necessary for one to purchase the A129/3 (which really can't be 
> fully 
> > expolited without the A129/4 Controller) when all one may need is 
a 
> > couple of offset generators.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Kevin
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "jmaddocks1975" 
> > <jmaddocks1975@y...> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > I agree, this is something I am looking at building.
> > > My a129 never gets used and I really want a fixed filter, so if 
I 
> > can 
> > > make a module with 15 pots to control the a129/2 I got one.
> > > Any ideas of best way to make it?
> > > 
> > > John
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "pstnotpd" <psm@w...> 
wrote:
> > > > Wouldn't that be fairly easy to make yourself? A number of 
pots 
> > 15 
> > > > running from the internal power. Something like a CV source+ 
so 
> > > that 
> > > > the 129 could be used as a filter bank, but much cheaper an 
> space 
> > > > consuming. 
> > > > Or am I getting you wrong?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "code_pig" 
<code_pig@y...> 

> > > wrote:
> > > > > This might have already been discussed, but...
> > > > > 
> > > > > I know the A129/3 does offsets, but might there be room for 
> > > > something 
> > > > > like a simple dual offset generator module?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Kevin

Hi all,

> I agree, this is something I am looking at building.
> My a129 never gets used and I really want a fixed filter, so if I 
can 
> make a module with 15 pots to control the a129/2 I got one.
> Any ideas of best way to make it?

I've posted a small schematic representing one possible starting 
point in the files section. And if you want it to 'blend in' with 
other A-100 stuff, Rapid Electronics do the same Re'an knobs that 
Doepfer use (only not in the same colour combination, Doepfer's is 
customised), and also 16mm potentiometers with splined shafts.

Tim

Sell the a129/3 to me and build on ;)


----- Original Message -----

From: "jmaddocks1975" <jmaddocks1975@yahoo.co.uk>
To: <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 11:31 AM
Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Offset module


> Hi,
> I agree, this is something I am looking at building.
> My a129 never gets used and I really want a fixed filter, so if I can
> make a module with 15 pots to control the a129/2 I got one.
> Any ideas of best way to make it?
>
> John
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "pstnotpd" <psm@w...> wrote:
> > Wouldn't that be fairly easy to make yourself? A number of pots 15
> > running from the internal power. Something like a CV source+ so
> that
> > the 129 could be used as a filter bank, but much cheaper an space
> > consuming.
> > Or am I getting you wrong?
> >
> >
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "code_pig" <code_pig@y...>
> wrote:
> > > This might have already been discussed, but...
> > >
> > > I know the A129/3 does offsets, but might there be room for
> > something
> > > like a simple dual offset generator module?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Kevin
>
>
>
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Ohh, it can very much be used to full effect without the /4, but I second
the motion that a smaller offset module should be great. And in that case I
should wish for one that not only attenuates but also has the capacity to
boost signals preferrably switched so you could set the maximum output to
either +5v or +12v or +15v so you don't accidentally blow up other modules.
Dual attenutator... hmm, looking at the jack and knobs it seems to me like
it would be possible for something like a 2 input four output in a unit
about the size of the a111. I wouldn't hesitate to buy one of those when I
expand. Time for a new module and feautes vote here Bakis?


----- Original Message -----

From: "code_pig" <code_pig@yahoo.com>
To: <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 1:14 PM
Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Offset module


> Actually, I just wanted a dual offset module because I really don't
> need (or have room for) and A129/3.
>
> I mean, I don't want to whine, but I really don't think it should be
> necessary for one to purchase the A129/3 (which really can't be fully
> expolited without the A129/4 Controller) when all one may need is a
> couple of offset generators.
>
> Regards,
> Kevin
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "jmaddocks1975"
> <jmaddocks1975@y...> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I agree, this is something I am looking at building.
> > My a129 never gets used and I really want a fixed filter, so if I
> can
> > make a module with 15 pots to control the a129/2 I got one.
> > Any ideas of best way to make it?
> >
> > John
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "pstnotpd" <psm@w...> wrote:
> > > Wouldn't that be fairly easy to make yourself? A number of pots
> 15
> > > running from the internal power. Something like a CV source+ so
> > that
> > > the 129 could be used as a filter bank, but much cheaper an space
> > > consuming.
> > > Or am I getting you wrong?
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "code_pig" <code_pig@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > > This might have already been discussed, but...
> > > >
> > > > I know the A129/3 does offsets, but might there be room for
> > > something
> > > > like a simple dual offset generator module?
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Kevin
>
>
>
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>
>

Nice one Tim.  Thanks.

Regards,
Kevin

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Stinchcombe" <timothy@t...> 
wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> > I agree, this is something I am looking at building.
> > My a129 never gets used and I really want a fixed filter, so if I 
> can 
> > make a module with 15 pots to control the a129/2 I got one.
> > Any ideas of best way to make it?
> 
> I've posted a small schematic representing one possible starting 
> point in the files section. And if you want it to 'blend in' with 
> other A-100 stuff, Rapid Electronics do the same Re'an knobs that 
> Doepfer use (only not in the same colour combination, Doepfer's is 
> customised), and also 16mm potentiometers with splined shafts.
> 
> Tim

I'm been thinking about modifing my A138a mixers so that channel 4 is 
normalled to the fixed voltage from the power supply, and you'd 
be able to adjust the offset voltage with the channel knob, but it 
would work like a regular mixer channel if you plugged in a patch 
cable.

Joe

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "code_pig" <code_pig@y...> wrote:
> Actually, I just wanted a dual offset module because I really don't 
> need (or have room for) and A129/3.  
> 
> I mean, I don't want to whine, but I really don't think it should be 
> necessary for one to purchase the A129/3 (which really can't be 
fully 
> expolited without the A129/4 Controller) when all one may need is a 
> couple of offset generators.
> 
> Regards,
> Kevin
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "jmaddocks1975" 
> <jmaddocks1975@y...> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I agree, this is something I am looking at building.
> > My a129 never gets used and I really want a fixed filter, so if I 
> can 
> > make a module with 15 pots to control the a129/2 I got one.
> > Any ideas of best way to make it?
> > 
> > John
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "pstnotpd" <psm@w...> wrote:
> > > Wouldn't that be fairly easy to make yourself? A number of pots 
> 15 
> > > running from the internal power. Something like a CV source+ so 
> > that 
> > > the 129 could be used as a filter bank, but much cheaper an 
space 

> > > consuming. 
> > > Or am I getting you wrong?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "code_pig" <code_pig@y...> 
> > wrote:
> > > > This might have already been discussed, but...
> > > > 
> > > > I know the A129/3 does offsets, but might there be room for 
> > > something 
> > > > like a simple dual offset generator module?
> > > > 
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Kevin

woops! Dieter seems to have already addressed this. Interesting, I 
wasn't thinking about using a protection resistor.

Joe
--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Buechler" <buechlerjoe@t...> 
wrote:
> I'm been thinking about modifing my A138a mixers so that channel 4 
is 
> normalled to the fixed voltage from the power supply, and you'd 
> be able to adjust the offset voltage with the channel knob, but it 
> would work like a regular mixer channel if you plugged in a patch 
> cable.
> 
> Joe
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "code_pig" <code_pig@y...> 
wrote:
> > Actually, I just wanted a dual offset module because I really 
don't 
> > need (or have room for) and A129/3.  
> > 
> > I mean, I don't want to whine, but I really don't think it should 
be 
> > necessary for one to purchase the A129/3 (which really can't be 
> fully 
> > expolited without the A129/4 Controller) when all one may need is 
a 
> > couple of offset generators.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Kevin
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "jmaddocks1975" 
> > <jmaddocks1975@y...> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > I agree, this is something I am looking at building.
> > > My a129 never gets used and I really want a fixed filter, so if 
I 
> > can 
> > > make a module with 15 pots to control the a129/2 I got one.
> > > Any ideas of best way to make it?
> > > 
> > > John
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "pstnotpd" <psm@w...> 
wrote:
> > > > Wouldn't that be fairly easy to make yourself? A number of 
pots 
> > 15 
> > > > running from the internal power. Something like a CV source+ 
so 
> > > that 
> > > > the 129 could be used as a filter bank, but much cheaper an 
> space 
> > > > consuming. 
> > > > Or am I getting you wrong?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "code_pig" 
<code_pig@y...> 

> > > wrote:
> > > > > This might have already been discussed, but...
> > > > > 
> > > > > I know the A129/3 does offsets, but might there be room for 
> > > > something 
> > > > > like a simple dual offset generator module?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Kevin

hi list,
ok andreas,feel free to create a poll...
bakis.


--- Andreas Lindholm <andreas.k.lindholm@telia.com>
wrote:
> Ohh, it can very much be used to full effect without
> the /4, but I second
> the motion that a smaller offset module should be
> great. And in that case I
> should wish for one that not only attenuates but
> also has the capacity to
> boost signals preferrably switched so you could set
> the maximum output to
> either +5v or +12v or +15v so you don't accidentally
> blow up other modules.
> Dual attenutator... hmm, looking at the jack and
> knobs it seems to me like
> it would be possible for something like a 2 input
> four output in a unit
> about the size of the a111. I wouldn't hesitate to
> buy one of those when I
> expand. Time for a new module and feautes vote here
> Bakis?
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "code_pig" <code_pig@yahoo.com>
> To: <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 1:14 PM
> Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Offset module
> 
> 
> > Actually, I just wanted a dual offset module
> because I really don't
> > need (or have room for) and A129/3.
> >
> > I mean, I don't want to whine, but I really don't
> think it should be
> > necessary for one to purchase the A129/3 (which
> really can't be fully
> > expolited without the A129/4 Controller) when all
> one may need is a
> > couple of offset generators.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Kevin
> >
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com,
> "jmaddocks1975"
> > <jmaddocks1975@y...> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > I agree, this is something I am looking at
> building.
> > > My a129 never gets used and I really want a
> fixed filter, so if I
> > can
> > > make a module with 15 pots to control the a129/2
> I got one.
> > > Any ideas of best way to make it?
> > >
> > > John
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "pstnotpd"
> <psm@w...> wrote:
> > > > Wouldn't that be fairly easy to make yourself?
> A number of pots
> > 15
> > > > running from the internal power. Something
> like a CV source+ so
> > > that
> > > > the 129 could be used as a filter bank, but
> much cheaper an space
> > > > consuming.
> > > > Or am I getting you wrong?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com,
> "code_pig" <code_pig@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > This might have already been discussed,
> but...
> > > > >
> > > > > I know the A129/3 does offsets, but might
> there be room for
> > > > something
> > > > > like a simple dual offset generator module?
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Kevin
> >
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > doepfer_a100-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> 
> 
> 


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I uploaded a picture of an offset module as I would like to see it.

Joe
--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Andreas Lindholm" 
<andreas.k.lindholm@t...> wrote:
> Well. As I see it now I can't make a vote cause I can only see one 
version
> of that module and that is the one I drafted so we atleast need to 
come up
> with alternatives for that setup. Anybody have alternatives?
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bakis Sirros" <synth_freak_2000@y...>
> To: <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 11:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Offset module
> 
> 
> > hi list,
> > ok andreas,feel free to create a poll...
> > bakis.
> >
> >
> > --- Andreas Lindholm <andreas.k.lindholm@t...>
> > wrote:
> > > Ohh, it can very much be used to full effect without
> > > the /4, but I second
> > > the motion that a smaller offset module should be
> > > great. And in that case I
> > > should wish for one that not only attenuates but
> > > also has the capacity to
> > > boost signals preferrably switched so you could set
> > > the maximum output to
> > > either +5v or +12v or +15v so you don't accidentally
> > > blow up other modules.
> > > Dual attenutator... hmm, looking at the jack and
> > > knobs it seems to me like
> > > it would be possible for something like a 2 input
> > > four output in a unit
> > > about the size of the a111. I wouldn't hesitate to
> > > buy one of those when I
> > > expand. Time for a new module and feautes vote here
> > > Bakis?
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "code_pig" <code_pig@y...>
> > > To: <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 1:14 PM
> > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Offset module
> > >
> > >
> > > > Actually, I just wanted a dual offset module
> > > because I really don't
> > > > need (or have room for) and A129/3.
> > > >
> > > > I mean, I don't want to whine, but I really don't
> > > think it should be
> > > > necessary for one to purchase the A129/3 (which
> > > really can't be fully
> > > > expolited without the A129/4 Controller) when all
> > > one may need is a
> > > > couple of offset generators.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Kevin
> > > >
> > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com,
> > > "jmaddocks1975"
> > > > <jmaddocks1975@y...> wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > I agree, this is something I am looking at
> > > building.
> > > > > My a129 never gets used and I really want a
> > > fixed filter, so if I
> > > > can
> > > > > make a module with 15 pots to control the a129/2
> > > I got one.
> > > > > Any ideas of best way to make it?
> > > > >
> > > > > John
> > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "pstnotpd"
> > > <psm@w...> wrote:
> > > > > > Wouldn't that be fairly easy to make yourself?
> > > A number of pots
> > > > 15
> > > > > > running from the internal power. Something
> > > like a CV source+ so
> > > > > that
> > > > > > the 129 could be used as a filter bank, but
> > > much cheaper an space
> > > > > > consuming.
> > > > > > Or am I getting you wrong?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com,
> > > "code_pig" <code_pig@y...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > This might have already been discussed,
> > > but...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I know the A129/3 does offsets, but might
> > > there be room for
> > > > > > something
> > > > > > > like a simple dual offset generator module?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > Kevin
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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Well. As I see it now I can't make a vote cause I can only see one version
of that module and that is the one I drafted so we atleast need to come up
with alternatives for that setup. Anybody have alternatives?


----- Original Message -----

From: "Bakis Sirros" <synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com>
To: <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Offset module


> hi list,
> ok andreas,feel free to create a poll...
> bakis.
>
>
> --- Andreas Lindholm <andreas.k.lindholm@telia.com>
> wrote:
> > Ohh, it can very much be used to full effect without
> > the /4, but I second
> > the motion that a smaller offset module should be
> > great. And in that case I
> > should wish for one that not only attenuates but
> > also has the capacity to
> > boost signals preferrably switched so you could set
> > the maximum output to
> > either +5v or +12v or +15v so you don't accidentally
> > blow up other modules.
> > Dual attenutator... hmm, looking at the jack and
> > knobs it seems to me like
> > it would be possible for something like a 2 input
> > four output in a unit
> > about the size of the a111. I wouldn't hesitate to
> > buy one of those when I
> > expand. Time for a new module and feautes vote here
> > Bakis?
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "code_pig" <code_pig@yahoo.com>
> > To: <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 1:14 PM
> > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Offset module
> >
> >
> > > Actually, I just wanted a dual offset module
> > because I really don't
> > > need (or have room for) and A129/3.
> > >
> > > I mean, I don't want to whine, but I really don't
> > think it should be
> > > necessary for one to purchase the A129/3 (which
> > really can't be fully
> > > expolited without the A129/4 Controller) when all
> > one may need is a
> > > couple of offset generators.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Kevin
> > >
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com,
> > "jmaddocks1975"
> > > <jmaddocks1975@y...> wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I agree, this is something I am looking at
> > building.
> > > > My a129 never gets used and I really want a
> > fixed filter, so if I
> > > can
> > > > make a module with 15 pots to control the a129/2
> > I got one.
> > > > Any ideas of best way to make it?
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "pstnotpd"
> > <psm@w...> wrote:
> > > > > Wouldn't that be fairly easy to make yourself?
> > A number of pots
> > > 15
> > > > > running from the internal power. Something
> > like a CV source+ so
> > > > that
> > > > > the 129 could be used as a filter bank, but
> > much cheaper an space
> > > > > consuming.
> > > > > Or am I getting you wrong?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com,
> > "code_pig" <code_pig@y...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > This might have already been discussed,
> > but...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I know the A129/3 does offsets, but might
> > there be room for
> > > > > something
> > > > > > like a simple dual offset generator module?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Kevin
> > >
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Hi Andreas

I already have several gain modules - A119, A136, and A132 so I 
don't really need the amplification feature you proposed. If it's 
inexpensive to add, no problem. Include it as a poll feature.

I like the idea of a +/- offset knob, but one problem is that it would 
be difficult to zero the offset, e.g. if you wanted to use the module 
as a simple attenuator. I don't know how difficult it would be to put 
a center detent on the offset knob, none of the other Doepfer modules 
have detent knobs that I know of. Can anyone comment on that?

Joe

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Buechler" <buechlerjoe@t...> 
wrote:

> I uploaded a picture of an offset module as I would like to see it.
> 
> Joe
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Andreas Lindholm" 
> <andreas.k.lindholm@t...> wrote:
> > Well. As I see it now I can't make a vote cause I can only see one 
> version
> > of that module and that is the one I drafted so we atleast need to 
> come up
> > with alternatives for that setup. Anybody have alternatives?
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bakis Sirros" <synth_freak_2000@y...>
> > To: <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 11:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Offset module
> > 
> > 
> > > hi list,
> > > ok andreas,feel free to create a poll...
> > > bakis.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Andreas Lindholm <andreas.k.lindholm@t...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Ohh, it can very much be used to full effect without
> > > > the /4, but I second
> > > > the motion that a smaller offset module should be
> > > > great. And in that case I
> > > > should wish for one that not only attenuates but
> > > > also has the capacity to
> > > > boost signals preferrably switched so you could set
> > > > the maximum output to
> > > > either +5v or +12v or +15v so you don't accidentally
> > > > blow up other modules.
> > > > Dual attenutator... hmm, looking at the jack and
> > > > knobs it seems to me like
> > > > it would be possible for something like a 2 input
> > > > four output in a unit
> > > > about the size of the a111. I wouldn't hesitate to
> > > > buy one of those when I
> > > > expand. Time for a new module and feautes vote here
> > > > Bakis?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "code_pig" <code_pig@y...>
> > > > To: <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 1:14 PM
> > > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Offset module
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Actually, I just wanted a dual offset module
> > > > because I really don't
> > > > > need (or have room for) and A129/3.
> > > > >
> > > > > I mean, I don't want to whine, but I really don't
> > > > think it should be
> > > > > necessary for one to purchase the A129/3 (which
> > > > really can't be fully
> > > > > expolited without the A129/4 Controller) when all
> > > > one may need is a
> > > > > couple of offset generators.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Kevin
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > "jmaddocks1975"
> > > > > <jmaddocks1975@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > I agree, this is something I am looking at
> > > > building.
> > > > > > My a129 never gets used and I really want a
> > > > fixed filter, so if I
> > > > > can
> > > > > > make a module with 15 pots to control the a129/2
> > > > I got one.
> > > > > > Any ideas of best way to make it?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > John
> > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "pstnotpd"
> > > > <psm@w...> wrote:
> > > > > > > Wouldn't that be fairly easy to make yourself?
> > > > A number of pots
> > > > > 15
> > > > > > > running from the internal power. Something
> > > > like a CV source+ so
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > the 129 could be used as a filter bank, but
> > > > much cheaper an space
> > > > > > > consuming.
> > > > > > > Or am I getting you wrong?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > "code_pig" <code_pig@y...>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > This might have already been discussed,
> > > > but...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I know the A129/3 does offsets, but might
> > > > there be room for
> > > > > > > something
> > > > > > > > like a simple dual offset generator module?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > Kevin
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Maybe I'm missing the point, but isn't the a138 lin mixer just a 
voltage attenuator? Would that help?

-andrew bunny

Yeah, and that's how I use it. But it always feel bad to use up an 
entire mixer (or VCA) when all you need is a simple attenuator. 

Maybe this attenuator/offset module is a bad idea, it doesn't 
really add any new functionality to the system, and ten people 
would have ten different ideas about how to package existing 
functions into a new module. There's a lot to be said for breaking 
functions down into their component parts as separate modules, that 
way there's more versatility. I guess I'll stick with the mixer and CV 
source for attenuation and offset voltages.

In any case, it's difficult to discuss synthesizers, isn't it, when 
all these people are dying?

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "andrew dalio" <bunnyman@s...> 
wrote:

> Maybe I'm missing the point, but isn't the a138 lin mixer just a 
> voltage attenuator? Would that help?
> 
> -andrew bunny

An offset module would supply negative as well as positive voltage.  
If one was to use a A138 mixer, a A175 Inverter would also be 
required to get the same results.

Regards,
Kevin

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Buechler" 
<buechlerjoe@t...> wrote:
> Yeah, and that's how I use it. But it always feel bad to use up an 
> entire mixer (or VCA) when all you need is a simple attenuator. 
> 
> Maybe this attenuator/offset module is a bad idea, it doesn't 
> really add any new functionality to the system, and ten people 
> would have ten different ideas about how to package existing 
> functions into a new module. There's a lot to be said for breaking 
> functions down into their component parts as separate modules, that 
> way there's more versatility. I guess I'll stick with the mixer and 
CV 

> source for attenuation and offset voltages.
> 
> In any case, it's difficult to discuss synthesizers, isn't it, when 
> all these people are dying?
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "andrew dalio" <bunnyman@s...> 
> wrote:
> > Maybe I'm missing the point, but isn't the a138 lin mixer just a 
> > voltage attenuator? Would that help?
> > 
> > -andrew bunny

Gosh bakis, another case of where I hadn't read the user's guide! 
Didn't even know about those three jumpers.

The A136 can be used as a positive or negative CV source.

Joe

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
<synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
> hi kevin,
> not nessesarily...the a176 voltage source has positive
> as well as negative voltages.
> bakis.
> 
> 
> --- code_pig <code_pig@y...> wrote:
> > An offset module would supply negative as well as
> > positive voltage.  
> > If one was to use a A138 mixer, a A175 Inverter
> > would also be 
> > required to get the same results.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Kevin
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Buechler" 
> > <buechlerjoe@t...> wrote:
> > > Yeah, and that's how I use it. But it always feel
> > bad to use up an 
> > > entire mixer (or VCA) when all you need is a
> > simple attenuator. 
> > > 
> > > Maybe this attenuator/offset module is a bad idea,
> > it doesn't 
> > > really add any new functionality to the system,
> > and ten people 
> > > would have ten different ideas about how to
> > package existing 
> > > functions into a new module. There's a lot to be
> > said for breaking 
> > > functions down into their component parts as
> > separate modules, that 
> > > way there's more versatility. I guess I'll stick
> > with the mixer and 
> > CV 
> > > source for attenuation and offset voltages.
> > > 
> > > In any case, it's difficult to discuss
> > synthesizers, isn't it, when 
> > > all these people are dying?
> > > 
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "andrew
> > dalio" <bunnyman@s...> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > Maybe I'm missing the point, but isn't the a138
> > lin mixer just a 
> > > > voltage attenuator? Would that help?
> > > > 
> > > > -andrew bunny
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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hi kevin,
not nessesarily...the a176 voltage source has positive
as well as negative voltages.
bakis.


--- code_pig <code_pig@yahoo.com> wrote:
> An offset module would supply negative as well as
> positive voltage.  
> If one was to use a A138 mixer, a A175 Inverter
> would also be 
> required to get the same results.
> 
> Regards,
> Kevin
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Buechler" 
> <buechlerjoe@t...> wrote:
> > Yeah, and that's how I use it. But it always feel
> bad to use up an 
> > entire mixer (or VCA) when all you need is a
> simple attenuator. 
> > 
> > Maybe this attenuator/offset module is a bad idea,
> it doesn't 
> > really add any new functionality to the system,
> and ten people 
> > would have ten different ideas about how to
> package existing 
> > functions into a new module. There's a lot to be
> said for breaking 
> > functions down into their component parts as
> separate modules, that 
> > way there's more versatility. I guess I'll stick
> with the mixer and 
> CV 
> > source for attenuation and offset voltages.
> > 
> > In any case, it's difficult to discuss
> synthesizers, isn't it, when 
> > all these people are dying?
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "andrew
> dalio" <bunnyman@s...> 
> > wrote:
> > > Maybe I'm missing the point, but isn't the a138
> lin mixer just a 
> > > voltage attenuator? Would that help?
> > > 
> > > -andrew bunny
> 
> 


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Bakis, Joe,

I too am guilty, and stand corrected.  One day I'll even learn to 
speak English as a language.

By the way, are we actually supposed to read the manual?

Regards,
Kevin

PS - I've moved one jumper... but I'd still like a dual offset module.



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Buechler" 
<buechlerjoe@t...> wrote:

> Gosh bakis, another case of where I hadn't read the user's guide! 
> Didn't even know about those three jumpers.
> 
> The A136 can be used as a positive or negative CV source.
> 
> Joe
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
> <synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
> > hi kevin,
> > not nessesarily...the a176 voltage source has positive
> > as well as negative voltages.
> > bakis.
> > 
> > 
> > --- code_pig <code_pig@y...> wrote:
> > > An offset module would supply negative as well as
> > > positive voltage.  
> > > If one was to use a A138 mixer, a A175 Inverter
> > > would also be 
> > > required to get the same results.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > Kevin
> > > 
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Buechler" 
> > > <buechlerjoe@t...> wrote:
> > > > Yeah, and that's how I use it. But it always feel
> > > bad to use up an 
> > > > entire mixer (or VCA) when all you need is a
> > > simple attenuator. 
> > > > 
> > > > Maybe this attenuator/offset module is a bad idea,
> > > it doesn't 
> > > > really add any new functionality to the system,
> > > and ten people 
> > > > would have ten different ideas about how to
> > > package existing 
> > > > functions into a new module. There's a lot to be
> > > said for breaking 
> > > > functions down into their component parts as
> > > separate modules, that 
> > > > way there's more versatility. I guess I'll stick
> > > with the mixer and 
> > > CV 
> > > > source for attenuation and offset voltages.
> > > > 
> > > > In any case, it's difficult to discuss
> > > synthesizers, isn't it, when 
> > > > all these people are dying?
> > > > 
> > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "andrew
> > > dalio" <bunnyman@s...> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Maybe I'm missing the point, but isn't the a138
> > > lin mixer just a 
> > > > > voltage attenuator? Would that help?
> > > > > 
> > > > > -andrew bunny
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
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which a136 user's guide has this info??

i re-read the pdf and checked the html from doepfer.de and couldn't find any 
mention of these jumpers.

-psm




--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "code_pig" <code_pig@y...> wrote:

> Bakis, Joe,
> 
> I too am guilty, and stand corrected.  One day I'll even learn to 
> speak English as a language.
> 
> By the way, are we actually supposed to read the manual?
> 
> Regards,
> Kevin
> 
> PS - I've moved one jumper... but I'd still like a dual offset module.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Buechler" 
> <buechlerjoe@t...> wrote:
> > Gosh bakis, another case of where I hadn't read the user's guide! 
> > Didn't even know about those three jumpers.
> > 
> > The A136 can be used as a positive or negative CV source.
> > 
> > Joe
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
> > <synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
> > > hi kevin,
> > > not nessesarily...the a176 voltage source has positive
> > > as well as negative voltages.
> > > bakis.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- code_pig <code_pig@y...> wrote:
> > > > An offset module would supply negative as well as
> > > > positive voltage.  
> > > > If one was to use a A138 mixer, a A175 Inverter
> > > > would also be 
> > > > required to get the same results.
> > > > 
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Kevin
> > > > 
> > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Buechler" 
> > > > <buechlerjoe@t...> wrote:
> > > > > Yeah, and that's how I use it. But it always feel
> > > > bad to use up an 
> > > > > entire mixer (or VCA) when all you need is a
> > > > simple attenuator. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Maybe this attenuator/offset module is a bad idea,
> > > > it doesn't 
> > > > > really add any new functionality to the system,
> > > > and ten people 
> > > > > would have ten different ideas about how to
> > > > package existing 
> > > > > functions into a new module. There's a lot to be
> > > > said for breaking 
> > > > > functions down into their component parts as
> > > > separate modules, that 
> > > > > way there's more versatility. I guess I'll stick
> > > > with the mixer and 
> > > > CV 
> > > > > source for attenuation and offset voltages.
> > > > > 
> > > > > In any case, it's difficult to discuss
> > > > synthesizers, isn't it, when 
> > > > > all these people are dying?
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "andrew
> > > > dalio" <bunnyman@s...> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Maybe I'm missing the point, but isn't the a138
> > > > lin mixer just a 
> > > > > > voltage attenuator? Would that help?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > -andrew bunny
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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It's in the A176 ontrol Voltage Source manual.  You'll find it on 
page 3, heading number four labelled "Outputs", and listed item 
number five labelled "CV 3".  It even has a little hand next to it.

See?  I really DID open the damn thing.

Regards,
Kevin

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "ps_minor" <pscottm@h...> wrote:
> which a136 user's guide has this info??
> 
> i re-read the pdf and checked the html from doepfer.de and couldn't 
find any 
> mention of these jumpers.
> 
> -psm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "code_pig" <code_pig@y...> 
wrote:
> > Bakis, Joe,
> > 
> > I too am guilty, and stand corrected.  One day I'll even learn to 
> > speak English as a language.
> > 
> > By the way, are we actually supposed to read the manual?
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Kevin
> > 
> > PS - I've moved one jumper... but I'd still like a dual offset 
module.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Buechler" 
> > <buechlerjoe@t...> wrote:
> > > Gosh bakis, another case of where I hadn't read the user's 
guide! 

> > > Didn't even know about those three jumpers.
> > > 
> > > The A136 can be used as a positive or negative CV source.
> > > 
> > > Joe
> > > 
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
> > > <synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
> > > > hi kevin,
> > > > not nessesarily...the a176 voltage source has positive
> > > > as well as negative voltages.
> > > > bakis.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- code_pig <code_pig@y...> wrote:
> > > > > An offset module would supply negative as well as
> > > > > positive voltage.  
> > > > > If one was to use a A138 mixer, a A175 Inverter
> > > > > would also be 
> > > > > required to get the same results.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Kevin
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Buechler" 
> > > > > <buechlerjoe@t...> wrote:
> > > > > > Yeah, and that's how I use it. But it always feel
> > > > > bad to use up an 
> > > > > > entire mixer (or VCA) when all you need is a
> > > > > simple attenuator. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Maybe this attenuator/offset module is a bad idea,
> > > > > it doesn't 
> > > > > > really add any new functionality to the system,
> > > > > and ten people 
> > > > > > would have ten different ideas about how to
> > > > > package existing 
> > > > > > functions into a new module. There's a lot to be
> > > > > said for breaking 
> > > > > > functions down into their component parts as
> > > > > separate modules, that 
> > > > > > way there's more versatility. I guess I'll stick
> > > > > with the mixer and 
> > > > > CV 
> > > > > > source for attenuation and offset voltages.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > In any case, it's difficult to discuss
> > > > > synthesizers, isn't it, when 
> > > > > > all these people are dying?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "andrew
> > > > > dalio" <bunnyman@s...> 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Maybe I'm missing the point, but isn't the a138
> > > > > lin mixer just a 
> > > > > > > voltage attenuator? Would that help?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > -andrew bunny
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > =====
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> > > > athens-greece
> > > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner-moderator
> > > > 
> > > > __________________________________________________
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thanks kevin,  sorry, i thought joe was talking about the 136 (see : below), not 
the 176.  seemed plausible since the 136 is also an amplifier..but also thought 
it to be odd for it to have such a different capability from it's orig purpose.  
anyway, so that's why i couldn't find it.
i don't own a 176 but i'm going to give it another look right now..
cheers,
-psm


--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "code_pig" <code_pig@y...> wrote:

> It's in the A176 ontrol Voltage Source manual.  You'll find it on 
> page 3, heading number four labelled "Outputs", and listed item 
> number five labelled "CV 3".  It even has a little hand next to it.
> 
> See?  I really DID open the damn thing.
> 
> Regards,
> Kevin
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "ps_minor" <pscottm@h...> wrote:
> > which a136 user's guide has this info??
> > 
> > i re-read the pdf and checked the html from doepfer.de and couldn't 
> find any 
> > mention of these jumpers.
> > 
> > -psm
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "code_pig" <code_pig@y...> 
> wrote:
> > > Bakis, Joe,
> > > 
> > > I too am guilty, and stand corrected.  One day I'll even learn to 
> > > speak English as a language.
> > > 
> > > By the way, are we actually supposed to read the manual?
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > Kevin
> > > 
> > > PS - I've moved one jumper... but I'd still like a dual offset 
> module.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Buechler" 
> > > <buechlerjoe@t...> wrote:
> > > > Gosh bakis, another case of where I hadn't read the user's 
> guide! 
> > > > Didn't even know about those three jumpers.
> > > > 
> > > > The A136 can be used as a positive or negative CV source.
> > > > 
> > > > Joe
> > > > 
> > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
> > > > <synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
> > > > > hi kevin,
> > > > > not nessesarily...the a176 voltage source has positive
> > > > > as well as negative voltages.
> > > > > bakis.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- code_pig <code_pig@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > An offset module would supply negative as well as
> > > > > > positive voltage.  
> > > > > > If one was to use a A138 mixer, a A175 Inverter
> > > > > > would also be 
> > > > > > required to get the same results.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Kevin
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Buechler" 
> > > > > > <buechlerjoe@t...> wrote:
> > > > > > > Yeah, and that's how I use it. But it always feel
> > > > > > bad to use up an 
> > > > > > > entire mixer (or VCA) when all you need is a
> > > > > > simple attenuator. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Maybe this attenuator/offset module is a bad idea,
> > > > > > it doesn't 
> > > > > > > really add any new functionality to the system,
> > > > > > and ten people 
> > > > > > > would have ten different ideas about how to
> > > > > > package existing 
> > > > > > > functions into a new module. There's a lot to be
> > > > > > said for breaking 
> > > > > > > functions down into their component parts as
> > > > > > separate modules, that 
> > > > > > > way there's more versatility. I guess I'll stick
> > > > > > with the mixer and 
> > > > > > CV 
> > > > > > > source for attenuation and offset voltages.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > In any case, it's difficult to discuss
> > > > > > synthesizers, isn't it, when 
> > > > > > > all these people are dying?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "andrew
> > > > > > dalio" <bunnyman@s...> 
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > Maybe I'm missing the point, but isn't the a138
> > > > > > lin mixer just a 
> > > > > > > > voltage attenuator? Would that help?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > -andrew bunny
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > =====
> > > > > synthfreak(parallel worlds)
> > > > > athens-greece
> > > > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner-moderator
> > > > > 
> > > > > __________________________________________________
> > > > > Do you Yahoo!?
> > > > > Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your 
> > > > desktop!
> > > > > http://platinum.yahoo.com

On 3/23/03 6:22 PM, "ps_minor" <pscottm@hotmail.com> wrote:

> which a136 user's guide has this info??


yeah, I looked also not to be found I thought it may be the 176 they spoke
of.
anyway, I'm finding the a-136 great for processing the clock to an A-155
seq, (at least the old version) kinda controlled mayhem. very nice.
best,
pH

Actually, I *Did* mean the A136, which in addition to 
distortion/waveshaping, can be used for all sorts of utility 
purposes not intended or described in the user's manual - 
attenuator, voltage invertor, positive and negative CV source, gain 
stage, tracking function generator etc. - I think of it a sort of a 
handy-dandy does everything swiss army knife module.

Joe

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "ps_minor" <pscottm@h...> wrote:
> thanks kevin,  sorry, i thought joe was talking about the 136 (see : 
below), not 
> the 176.  seemed plausible since the 136 is also an amplifier..but 
also thought 
> it to be odd for it to have such a different capability from it's 
orig purpose.  
> anyway, so that's why i couldn't find it.
> i don't own a 176 but i'm going to give it another look right now..
> cheers,
> -psm
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "code_pig" <code_pig@y...> 
wrote:
> > It's in the A176 ontrol Voltage Source manual.  You'll find it on 
> > page 3, heading number four labelled "Outputs", and listed item 
> > number five labelled "CV 3".  It even has a little hand next to 
it.
> > 
> > See?  I really DID open the damn thing.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Kevin
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "ps_minor" <pscottm@h...> 
wrote:
> > > which a136 user's guide has this info??
> > > 
> > > i re-read the pdf and checked the html from doepfer.de and 
couldn't 
> > find any 
> > > mention of these jumpers.
> > > 
> > > -psm
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "code_pig" <code_pig@y...> 
> > wrote:
> > > > Bakis, Joe,
> > > > 
> > > > I too am guilty, and stand corrected.  One day I'll even learn 
to 
> > > > speak English as a language.
> > > > 
> > > > By the way, are we actually supposed to read the manual?
> > > > 
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Kevin
> > > > 
> > > > PS - I've moved one jumper... but I'd still like a dual offset 
> > module.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Buechler" 
> > > > <buechlerjoe@t...> wrote:
> > > > > Gosh bakis, another case of where I hadn't read the user's 
> > guide! 
> > > > > Didn't even know about those three jumpers.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The A136 can be used as a positive or negative CV source.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Joe
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
> > > > > <synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > hi kevin,
> > > > > > not nessesarily...the a176 voltage source has positive
> > > > > > as well as negative voltages.
> > > > > > bakis.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- code_pig <code_pig@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > An offset module would supply negative as well as
> > > > > > > positive voltage.  
> > > > > > > If one was to use a A138 mixer, a A175 Inverter
> > > > > > > would also be 
> > > > > > > required to get the same results.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > Kevin
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Buechler" 
> > > > > > > <buechlerjoe@t...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Yeah, and that's how I use it. But it always feel
> > > > > > > bad to use up an 
> > > > > > > > entire mixer (or VCA) when all you need is a
> > > > > > > simple attenuator. 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Maybe this attenuator/offset module is a bad idea,
> > > > > > > it doesn't 
> > > > > > > > really add any new functionality to the system,
> > > > > > > and ten people 
> > > > > > > > would have ten different ideas about how to
> > > > > > > package existing 
> > > > > > > > functions into a new module. There's a lot to be
> > > > > > > said for breaking 
> > > > > > > > functions down into their component parts as
> > > > > > > separate modules, that 
> > > > > > > > way there's more versatility. I guess I'll stick
> > > > > > > with the mixer and 
> > > > > > > CV 
> > > > > > > > source for attenuation and offset voltages.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > In any case, it's difficult to discuss
> > > > > > > synthesizers, isn't it, when 
> > > > > > > > all these people are dying?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "andrew
> > > > > > > dalio" <bunnyman@s...> 
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Maybe I'm missing the point, but isn't the a138
> > > > > > > lin mixer just a 
> > > > > > > > > voltage attenuator? Would that help?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > -andrew bunny
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > =====
> > > > > > synthfreak(parallel worlds)
> > > > > > athens-greece
> > > > > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner-moderator
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > __________________________________________________
> > > > > > Do you Yahoo!?
> > > > > > Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on 
your 
> > > > > desktop!
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hi psm,
there are jumpers in the a176 cv source,not in the
a136...
bakis.


--- ps_minor <pscottm@hotmail.com> wrote:
> which a136 user's guide has this info??
> 
> i re-read the pdf and checked the html from
> doepfer.de and couldn't find any 
> mention of these jumpers.
> 
> -psm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "code_pig"
> <code_pig@y...> wrote:
> > Bakis, Joe,
> > 
> > I too am guilty, and stand corrected.  One day
> I'll even learn to 
> > speak English as a language.
> > 
> > By the way, are we actually supposed to read the
> manual?
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Kevin
> > 
> > PS - I've moved one jumper... but I'd still like a
> dual offset module.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Joe
> Buechler" 
> > <buechlerjoe@t...> wrote:
> > > Gosh bakis, another case of where I hadn't read
> the user's guide! 
> > > Didn't even know about those three jumpers.
> > > 
> > > The A136 can be used as a positive or negative
> CV source.
> > > 
> > > Joe
> > > 
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis
> Sirros 
> > > <synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
> > > > hi kevin,
> > > > not nessesarily...the a176 voltage source has
> positive
> > > > as well as negative voltages.
> > > > bakis.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- code_pig <code_pig@y...> wrote:
> > > > > An offset module would supply negative as
> well as
> > > > > positive voltage.  
> > > > > If one was to use a A138 mixer, a A175
> Inverter
> > > > > would also be 
> > > > > required to get the same results.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Kevin
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Joe
> Buechler" 
> > > > > <buechlerjoe@t...> wrote:
> > > > > > Yeah, and that's how I use it. But it
> always feel
> > > > > bad to use up an 
> > > > > > entire mixer (or VCA) when all you need is
> a
> > > > > simple attenuator. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Maybe this attenuator/offset module is a
> bad idea,
> > > > > it doesn't 
> > > > > > really add any new functionality to the
> system,
> > > > > and ten people 
> > > > > > would have ten different ideas about how
> to
> > > > > package existing 
> > > > > > functions into a new module. There's a lot
> to be
> > > > > said for breaking 
> > > > > > functions down into their component parts
> as
> > > > > separate modules, that 
> > > > > > way there's more versatility. I guess I'll
> stick
> > > > > with the mixer and 
> > > > > CV 
> > > > > > source for attenuation and offset
> voltages.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > In any case, it's difficult to discuss
> > > > > synthesizers, isn't it, when 
> > > > > > all these people are dying?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com,
> "andrew
> > > > > dalio" <bunnyman@s...> 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Maybe I'm missing the point, but isn't
> the a138
> > > > > lin mixer just a 
> > > > > > > voltage attenuator? Would that help?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > -andrew bunny
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > =====
> > > > synthfreak(parallel worlds)
> > > > athens-greece
> > > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner-moderator
> > > > 
> > > >
> __________________________________________________
> > > > Do you Yahoo!?
> > > > Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March
> Madness, live on your 
> > > desktop!
> > > > http://platinum.yahoo.com
> 
> 


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