Doepfer

>
> Hello
> 
> 
> > 2nd picture: here you see the Mean Well connectors , the GND and -V
> > connects to one of the G6 case GROUND terminals.
> WRONG: connect only the Mean Well GND to th G6 Ground terminals. DO NOT 
> connect "-V" to the G6 ground terminals!
> 
> 
> > 3rd picture: here the G6 psu AC input.  There are two red labeled
> > arrows pointing those blue connector caps, the ones saying :DON't
> > KNOW WHAT ARE THESE?  now i think they are placed there to pass AC
> > power to other psu (in case it's needed) Am I right? if not please
> > let me know their purpose.
> >
> > 4th picture: here i removed the cables and caps to have a better look
> > at the connectors. If the top connectors with the ? labeled arrows
> > are there to pass AC power to other psu, then , I assume , i have to
> > sold the Mean Well AC inputs there, is that ok ? (I'll add heat
> > shrink tubbing for protection)  , It doesn't matter which Blue or
> > Black AC lead goes to any of the Mean Well Ac inputs , right? (please
> > check 2nd picture to confirm)   If I'm wrong please let me know.
> Hmm, I would not really do this. These connectors a after (!) the fuse 
> in the power socket on the rear panel. So if you switch on the panel, 
> the fuse would have to stand the current which is drawn from the Doepfer 
> supply plus the current drawn from the Mean Well supply. This would blow 
> the regular fuse. If you increase the fuses value, then a problem at one 
> of the two powersupplies would cause the fuse to blow later than wanted.
> 
> I recommend to add two additional fuse sockets in the rearpanel. One for 
> each of the powersupplies. Then brigde the former fuse holder in the in 
> the power socket with a large valued fuse, and put the suitable fuses in 
> the new fuse sockets.
> 
> 
> 
> > 5th picture: here I'm showing where the +V  = (+5v) output on the
> > Mean Well is going to be connected (as well heat shrink tubbing over
> > solder points for protection), If wrong please let me know.
> That is the correct place to add the +V. The ground from the Meanwell 
> should be connected to the bus pcb too. There are additional connectors 
> for +5V and GND at the end of the bus pcb.
> 
> Florian
> 
> -- 
> http://fa.utfs.org/
>

>
> Hi Ricardo / Dieter
> 
> 
> Am 23.10.2012 16:36, schrieb yahoo@...:
> > I think he is right. The Meanwell PSU is obviously a single PSU (i.e. one
> > voltage output only, not two like the A-100PSU2). In this case the -V output
> > of the Meanwell has to be connected to GND of the A-100 system. You may use
> > e.g. a free GND terminal at the bus board. The +V of the Meanwell (=  +5V)
> > has to be connected to the unused +5V terminal of the A-100 bus board.
> Thank you for the correction!
> I have a +/-15V supply from Meanwell and was transfering the connection 
> info from there.
> 
> I should have had a look at the datasheet before: 
> http://www.jameco.com/Jameco/Products/ProdDS/123290.pdf
> At page 2 you can see that the 5Volts are between -V and +V.
> 
> Florian
> 
> -- 
> http://fa.utfs.org/
>

> Thanks in advance
>
> Ricardo
>
>
>
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Florian Anwander
> <fanwander@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hello
> >
> >
> > > 2nd picture: here you see the Mean Well connectors , the GND and -V
> > > connects to one of the G6 case GROUND terminals.
> > WRONG: connect only the Mean Well GND to th G6 Ground terminals. DO NOT
> > connect "-V" to the G6 ground terminals!
> >
> >
> > > 3rd picture: here the G6 psu AC input.  There are two red labeled
> > > arrows pointing those blue connector caps, the ones saying :DON't
> > > KNOW WHAT ARE THESE?  now i think they are placed there to pass AC
> > > power to other psu (in case it's needed) Am I right? if not please
> > > let me know their purpose.
> > >
> > > 4th picture: here i removed the cables and caps to have a better look
> > > at the connectors. If the top connectors with the ? labeled arrows
> > > are there to pass AC power to other psu, then , I assume , i have to
> > > sold the Mean Well AC inputs there, is that ok ? (I'll add heat
> > > shrink tubbing for protection)  , It doesn't matter which Blue or
> > > Black AC lead goes to any of the Mean Well Ac inputs , right? (please
> > > check 2nd picture to confirm)   If I'm wrong please let me know.
> > Hmm, I would not really do this. These connectors a after (!) the fuse
> > in the power socket on the rear panel. So if you switch on the panel,
> > the fuse would have to stand the current which is drawn from
> the Doepfer
> > supply plus the current drawn from the Mean Well supply. This
> would blow
> > the regular fuse. If you increase the fuses value, then a
> problem at one
> > of the two powersupplies would cause the fuse to blow later than wanted.
> >
> > I recommend to add two additional fuse sockets in the
> rearpanel. One for
> > each of the powersupplies. Then brigde the former fuse holder in the in
> > the power socket with a large valued fuse, and put the suitable
> fuses in
> > the new fuse sockets.
> >
> >
> >
> > > 5th picture: here I'm showing where the +V  = (+5v) output on the
> > > Mean Well is going to be connected (as well heat shrink tubbing over
> > > solder points for protection), If wrong please let me know.
> > That is the correct place to add the +V. The ground from the Meanwell
> > should be connected to the bus pcb too. There are additional connectors
> > for +5V and GND at the end of the bus pcb.
> >
> > Florian
> >
> > --
> > http://fa.utfs.org/
> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

>
> > Hi Florian and Dieter
> >
> > Thanks for the advice.
> >
> > Dieter,
> > Florian also suggested in one message to power the Mean Well
> > externally by adding a second power connector / switch in the
> > rear panel so I can wire the Mean well to it.
> >
> > What do you think about it ? I think it could be easier than
> > doing all the fuses deal.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Ricardo
> 
> That's probably the best solution. I did not mention it because one has to
> make a cutout at the rear panel that fits to the additional mains inlet.
> 
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
>

>
> Hello Ricardo,
> 
> to start with the most important remark:
> 
> I would not do any thing here if you are alone. Watchout that someone is 
> near you who might be able to help you and/or call for help, if you 
> suffer a powerstroke!!!
> 
> 
> 
> I don't know the wiring for this power inlet, but I assume it works like 
> that:
> 
> In the picture "switch 6":
> 
> Connector N is obiviously "N"
> Connector L is fed to the fuse and the fuses output is labled "S" (below N).
> Connector E is the Ground/Earth connector
> 
> In the picture "switch 7":
> 
> this is assumingly a double pole single throw switch.
> I assume 3B connects to 4B and 1A connects to 2A
> You should control this with an ohm-meter.
> 
> So you might wire this socket like that:
> 
> N -> 1A  2A -> MeanWell N
> S -> 3B  4B -> MeanWell L
> E -> Meanwell Gnd
> 
> 
> Again picture "switch 6":
> 
> The socket says "10A  250v" because this is the maximum rating which is 
> allowed on this socket. It does not name the rating of the fuse!
> The rating of the fuse can be read from the input current specification 
> http://www.jameco.com/Jameco/Products/ProdDS/123290.pdf
> 1.2A for 115V or 0.6A for 230V. The fuse should be of the type "slow 
> blow" (this thing has f***ing high inrush current).
> 
> 
> If you bought this power inlet from Doepfer, then we should wait for 
> Dieters answer, since he should know this spare part. You also might 
> then have a look at the wiring of the original power inlet in this case.
> 
> Florian
> 
> 
> 
> Am 22.11.2012 16:12, schrieb ricardo:
> > Hi Dieter, Florian and all guys again.
> >
> > Finally i got all components to install the extra power inlet +switch  in  a G6 case so I can power the Mean Well +5v.
> >
> > It will sound weird but (here in Lima) i got trouble trying to find an electrician that want's to do such a small job because they don't want to move through all this big city in order to charge just a little cash  for such a small job (here electric works are cheap) .  So , I have to do it myself.
> >
> > I've got a dremel 3000  and can cut and drill small holes in aluminium with it.
> >
> > I've added  7 new pictures to the album called: "installing Meanwell +5v switch in G6"
> > there I'm showing the kind of power inlet (IEC socket) + power switch all in one. It also has a fuse holder (empty).
> >
> > So my concerns about making the right connections are:
> >
> > -In picture with the red mark number 1, you see the power inlet (and a second showing front face as reference) and the Mean Well +5v connections side where you can see the L and N connectors in the AC input by the GND connector.
> > Logically I would say "I must connect the L and N respectively to the L and N in the Power inlet" , but,  in the inlet's back the L side has a connector pin (two in fact) but the N side doesn't , it has only a little metal flat plate (please check picture red marked with number 6)  There you'll see that the L side has two pins for connections but the N only has that flat plate.
> > How do i connect them to the Mean Well AC input
> >
> >
> > -In picture with a red mark number 3 + ?  check that in those four connector pins , there are 4 numbers ( 1A, 2A, 3B, 4B ) does it mean something to be cautious when making connections? What should I connect to these?
> >
> > -Check that (in red marked: picture 2) it says 10A  250v   does it mean that i have tu put a 10A fuse in the fuse holder? if not, which one please?
> >
> >
> > - Where should I connect GND from the power inlet?
> >
> > EXCUSE MY IGNORANCE AGAIN AND HOPE YOU CAN GIVE ME SOME ADVICE.
> >
> > HERE I INCLUDE SOME NOTES FROM OUR PREVIOUS MESSAGES FOR REFERENCE:
> >
> > The Meanwell PSU is obviously a single PSU (i.e. one
> >>> voltage output only, not two like the A-100PSU2). In this case the -V output
> >>> of the Meanwell has to be connected to GND of the A-100 system. You may use
> >>> e.g. a free GND terminal at the bus board. The +V of the Meanwell (= +5V)
> >>> has to be connected to the unused +5V terminal of the A-100 bus board.
> >
> >
> > Hi Florian and Dieter
> >
> > Thanks for the advice.
> >
> > Dieter,
> > Florian also suggested in one message to power the Mean Well externally by
> > adding a second power connector / switch in the rear panel so I can wire the
> > Mean well to it.
> >
> > What do you think about it ? I think it could be easier than doing all the fuses
> > deal.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Ricardo
> >
> >
> > That's probably the best solution. I did not mention it because one has to
> > make a cutout at the rear panel that fits to the additional mains inlet.
> >
> > Best wishes
> > Dieter Doepfer
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> http://fa.utfs.org/
>

>
> Hello Ricardo,
> 
> to start with the most important remark:
> 
> I would not do any thing here if you are alone. Watchout that someone is 
> near you who might be able to help you and/or call for help, if you 
> suffer a powerstroke!!!
> 
> 
> 
> I don't know the wiring for this power inlet, but I assume it works like 
> that:
> 
> In the picture "switch 6":
> 
> Connector N is obiviously "N"
> Connector L is fed to the fuse and the fuses output is labled "S" (below N).
> Connector E is the Ground/Earth connector
> 
> In the picture "switch 7":
> 
> this is assumingly a double pole single throw switch.
> I assume 3B connects to 4B and 1A connects to 2A
> You should control this with an ohm-meter.
> 
> So you might wire this socket like that:
> 
> N -> 1A  2A -> MeanWell N
> S -> 3B  4B -> MeanWell L
> E -> Meanwell Gnd
> 
> 
> Again picture "switch 6":
> 
> The socket says "10A  250v" because this is the maximum rating which is 
> allowed on this socket. It does not name the rating of the fuse!
> The rating of the fuse can be read from the input current specification 
> http://www.jameco.com/Jameco/Products/ProdDS/123290.pdf
> 1.2A for 115V or 0.6A for 230V. The fuse should be of the type "slow 
> blow" (this thing has f***ing high inrush current).
> 
> 
> If you bought this power inlet from Doepfer, then we should wait for 
> Dieters answer, since he should know this spare part. You also might 
> then have a look at the wiring of the original power inlet in this case.
> 
> Florian
> 
> 
> 
> Am 22.11.2012 16:12, schrieb ricardo:
> > Hi Dieter, Florian and all guys again.
> >
> > Finally i got all components to install the extra power inlet +switch  in  a G6 case so I can power the Mean Well +5v.
> >
> > It will sound weird but (here in Lima) i got trouble trying to find an electrician that want's to do such a small job because they don't want to move through all this big city in order to charge just a little cash  for such a small job (here electric works are cheap) .  So , I have to do it myself.
> >
> > I've got a dremel 3000  and can cut and drill small holes in aluminium with it.
> >
> > I've added  7 new pictures to the album called: "installing Meanwell +5v switch in G6"
> > there I'm showing the kind of power inlet (IEC socket) + power switch all in one. It also has a fuse holder (empty).
> >
> > So my concerns about making the right connections are:
> >
> > -In picture with the red mark number 1, you see the power inlet (and a second showing front face as reference) and the Mean Well +5v connections side where you can see the L and N connectors in the AC input by the GND connector.
> > Logically I would say "I must connect the L and N respectively to the L and N in the Power inlet" , but,  in the inlet's back the L side has a connector pin (two in fact) but the N side doesn't , it has only a little metal flat plate (please check picture red marked with number 6)  There you'll see that the L side has two pins for connections but the N only has that flat plate.
> > How do i connect them to the Mean Well AC input
> >
> >
> > -In picture with a red mark number 3 + ?  check that in those four connector pins , there are 4 numbers ( 1A, 2A, 3B, 4B ) does it mean something to be cautious when making connections? What should I connect to these?
> >
> > -Check that (in red marked: picture 2) it says 10A  250v   does it mean that i have tu put a 10A fuse in the fuse holder? if not, which one please?
> >
> >
> > - Where should I connect GND from the power inlet?
> >
> > EXCUSE MY IGNORANCE AGAIN AND HOPE YOU CAN GIVE ME SOME ADVICE.
> >
> > HERE I INCLUDE SOME NOTES FROM OUR PREVIOUS MESSAGES FOR REFERENCE:
> >
> > The Meanwell PSU is obviously a single PSU (i.e. one
> >>> voltage output only, not two like the A-100PSU2). In this case the -V output
> >>> of the Meanwell has to be connected to GND of the A-100 system. You may use
> >>> e.g. a free GND terminal at the bus board. The +V of the Meanwell (= +5V)
> >>> has to be connected to the unused +5V terminal of the A-100 bus board.
> >
> >
> > Hi Florian and Dieter
> >
> > Thanks for the advice.
> >
> > Dieter,
> > Florian also suggested in one message to power the Mean Well externally by
> > adding a second power connector / switch in the rear panel so I can wire the
> > Mean well to it.
> >
> > What do you think about it ? I think it could be easier than doing all the fuses
> > deal.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Ricardo
> >
> >
> > That's probably the best solution. I did not mention it because one has to
> > make a cutout at the rear panel that fits to the additional mains inlet.
> >
> > Best wishes
> > Dieter Doepfer
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> http://fa.utfs.org/
>

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von ricardo
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 22. November 2012 16:12
> An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Please help! Installing +5v switch inside G6
> case for firing up tube modules
>
>
> Hi Dieter, Florian and all guys again.
>
> Finally i got all components to install the extra power inlet
> +switch  in  a G6 case so I can power the Mean Well +5v.
>
> It will sound weird but (here in Lima) i got trouble trying to
> find an electrician that want's to do such a small job because
> they don't want to move through all this big city in order to
> charge just a little cash  for such a small job (here electric
> works are cheap) .  So , I have to do it myself.
>
> I've got a dremel 3000  and can cut and drill small holes in
> aluminium with it.
>
> I've added  7 new pictures to the album called: "installing
> Meanwell +5v switch in G6"
> there I'm showing the kind of power inlet (IEC socket) + power
> switch all in one. It also has a fuse holder (empty).
>
> So my concerns about making the right connections are:
>
> -In picture with the red mark number 1, you see the power inlet
> (and a second showing front face as reference) and the Mean Well
> +5v connections side where you can see the L and N connectors in
> the AC input by the GND connector.
> Logically I would say "I must connect the L and N respectively to
> the L and N in the Power inlet" , but,  in the inlet's back the L
> side has a connector pin (two in fact) but the N side doesn't ,
> it has only a little metal flat plate (please check picture red
> marked with number 6)  There you'll see that the L side has two
> pins for connections but the N only has that flat plate.
> How do i connect them to the Mean Well AC input
>
>
> -In picture with a red mark number 3 + ?  check that in those
> four connector pins , there are 4 numbers ( 1A, 2A, 3B, 4B ) does
> it mean something to be cautious when making connections? What
> should I connect to these?
>
> -Check that (in red marked: picture 2) it says 10A  250v   does
> it mean that i have tu put a 10A fuse in the fuse holder? if not,
> which one please?
>
>
> - Where should I connect GND from the power inlet?
>
> EXCUSE MY IGNORANCE AGAIN AND HOPE YOU CAN GIVE ME SOME ADVICE.
>
> HERE I INCLUDE SOME NOTES FROM OUR PREVIOUS MESSAGES FOR REFERENCE:
>
> The Meanwell PSU is obviously a single PSU (i.e. one
> > > voltage output only, not two like the A-100PSU2). In this
> case the -V output
> > > of the Meanwell has to be connected to GND of the A-100
> system. You may use
> > > e.g. a free GND terminal at the bus board. The +V of the
> Meanwell (= +5V)
> > > has to be connected to the unused +5V terminal of the A-100 bus board.
>
>
> Hi Florian and Dieter
>
> Thanks for the advice.
>
> Dieter,
> Florian also suggested in one message to power the Mean Well externally by
> adding a second power connector / switch in the rear panel so I
> can wire the
> Mean well to it.
>
> What do you think about it ? I think it could be easier than
> doing all the fuses
> deal.
>
> Thanks
>
> Ricardo
>
>
> That's probably the best solution. I did not mention it because one has to
> make a cutout at the rear panel that fits to the additional mains inlet.
>
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

>
> Hello Ricardo,
> 
> I ask for your understanding but as a rule I do not give any instructions to
> laypersons as soon as mains voltages are involved in the wiring (mains
> inlet, fuse holder, mains switch, mains connection of the power supply and
> wiring). I strictly recommend to ask a specialist (who is familiar with the
> safety rules and is able to meet them) to carry out these works. There is
> danger to life if something is wired in the wrong way or cables that lead
> mains voltage become loose.
> 
> I hope you understand my point of view. I'm not too lazy to help you but I
> wan't to save the lifes of our customers :-)
> 
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
> 
> 
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von ricardo
> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 22. November 2012 16:12
> > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Please help! Installing +5v switch inside G6
> > case for firing up tube modules
> >
> >
> > Hi Dieter, Florian and all guys again.
> >
> > Finally i got all components to install the extra power inlet
> > +switch  in  a G6 case so I can power the Mean Well +5v.
> >
> > It will sound weird but (here in Lima) i got trouble trying to
> > find an electrician that want's to do such a small job because
> > they don't want to move through all this big city in order to
> > charge just a little cash  for such a small job (here electric
> > works are cheap) .  So , I have to do it myself.
> >
> > I've got a dremel 3000  and can cut and drill small holes in
> > aluminium with it.
> >
> > I've added  7 new pictures to the album called: "installing
> > Meanwell +5v switch in G6"
> > there I'm showing the kind of power inlet (IEC socket) + power
> > switch all in one. It also has a fuse holder (empty).
> >
> > So my concerns about making the right connections are:
> >
> > -In picture with the red mark number 1, you see the power inlet
> > (and a second showing front face as reference) and the Mean Well
> > +5v connections side where you can see the L and N connectors in
> > the AC input by the GND connector.
> > Logically I would say "I must connect the L and N respectively to
> > the L and N in the Power inlet" , but,  in the inlet's back the L
> > side has a connector pin (two in fact) but the N side doesn't ,
> > it has only a little metal flat plate (please check picture red
> > marked with number 6)  There you'll see that the L side has two
> > pins for connections but the N only has that flat plate.
> > How do i connect them to the Mean Well AC input
> >
> >
> > -In picture with a red mark number 3 + ?  check that in those
> > four connector pins , there are 4 numbers ( 1A, 2A, 3B, 4B ) does
> > it mean something to be cautious when making connections? What
> > should I connect to these?
> >
> > -Check that (in red marked: picture 2) it says 10A  250v   does
> > it mean that i have tu put a 10A fuse in the fuse holder? if not,
> > which one please?
> >
> >
> > - Where should I connect GND from the power inlet?
> >
> > EXCUSE MY IGNORANCE AGAIN AND HOPE YOU CAN GIVE ME SOME ADVICE.
> >
> > HERE I INCLUDE SOME NOTES FROM OUR PREVIOUS MESSAGES FOR REFERENCE:
> >
> > The Meanwell PSU is obviously a single PSU (i.e. one
> > > > voltage output only, not two like the A-100PSU2). In this
> > case the -V output
> > > > of the Meanwell has to be connected to GND of the A-100
> > system. You may use
> > > > e.g. a free GND terminal at the bus board. The +V of the
> > Meanwell (= +5V)
> > > > has to be connected to the unused +5V terminal of the A-100 bus board.
> >
> >
> > Hi Florian and Dieter
> >
> > Thanks for the advice.
> >
> > Dieter,
> > Florian also suggested in one message to power the Mean Well externally by
> > adding a second power connector / switch in the rear panel so I
> > can wire the
> > Mean well to it.
> >
> > What do you think about it ? I think it could be easier than
> > doing all the fuses
> > deal.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Ricardo
> >
> >
> > That's probably the best solution. I did not mention it because one has to
> > make a cutout at the rear panel that fits to the additional mains inlet.
> >
> > Best wishes
> > Dieter Doepfer
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>