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2011-07-19 by aletropdj
Hi there.
Im sequencing a sample with A155, but i only can trigger the steps at gate signal. Im using a simple LFO.
In example: A) Its what i can do
B) Its what i want to do
http://img839.imageshack.us/i/a155.png/
Thanks2011-07-19 by aletropdj
Yes, im using a lfo as clock. I dont know if is a shuffle effect (dont know that) but the picture illustrate what im looking for... thanks --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "York Luethje" <ybl@...> wrote:
> > Just to be clear: you are using a LFO as the clock and want to create a > shuffle effect? > > > > _____ > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com] Im > Auftrag von aletropdj > Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Juli 2011 16:14 > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] What module i need to do that? > > > > > > Hi there. > > Im sequencing a sample with A155, but i only can trigger the steps at gate > signal. Im using a simple LFO. > > In example: A) Its what i can do > B) Its what i want to do > > http://img839.imageshack.us/i/a155.png/ > > Thanks > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2011-07-19 by York Luethje
Just to be clear: you are using a LFO as the clock and want to create a shuffle effect? _____ Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com] Im Auftrag von aletropdj Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Juli 2011 16:14 An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] What module i need to do that? Hi there. Im sequencing a sample with A155, but i only can trigger the steps at gate signal. Im using a simple LFO. In example: A) Its what i can do B) Its what i want to do http://img839.imageshack.us/i/a155.png/ Thanks [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2011-07-19 by Giorgio
you need a voltage controlled gate delay. set the time to 1 step manually or with a CV offset, then CV from either anothr row of the 155 or wherever. On Jul 19, 2011, at 4:13 PM, "aletropdj" <aletropdj@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi there. > > Im sequencing a sample with A155, but i only can trigger the steps at gate signal. Im using a simple LFO. > > In example: A) Its what i can do > B) Its what i want to do > > http://img839.imageshack.us/i/a155.png/ > > Thanks > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2011-07-20 by aletropdj
One A-162 Dual Trigger Delay? i think that, but i dont know can be controled by CV? Cheers --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Giorgio <dancemachine@...> wrote:
> > you need a voltage controlled gate delay. set the time to 1 step manually or with a CV offset, then CV from either anothr row of the 155 or wherever. > > On Jul 19, 2011, at 4:13 PM, "aletropdj" <aletropdj@...> wrote: > > > Hi there. > > > > Im sequencing a sample with A155, but i only can trigger the steps at gate signal. Im using a simple LFO. > > > > In example: A) Its what i can do > > B) Its what i want to do > > > > http://img839.imageshack.us/i/a155.png/ > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2011-07-20 by Florian Anwander
Am 20.07.2011 08:07, schrieb aletropdj: > One A-162 Dual Trigger Delay? > i think that, but i dont know can be controled by CV? No, It can't. First possibility: VC Triggerdelay. You need an A-171 VC slew limiter followed by an A-167 comparator (maybe the A-163 in OR-mode would work as replacement for the A-167 too). Second possibility: unsymetric (more than 50%) pulse wave with trigger conversion. Either: Use a A-110 or A-111 at very low frequency as clock and set the pulsewidth not symmetric. Send this pulse through an A-165 trigger modifier. Or: Use any LFO saw wave, send it through an A-167 comparator, and set this to create an unsymetric pulse wave; again send this pulse wave through an A-165 trigger modifier. Third possibility: The A-154 would do everything you want. Florian
2011-07-20 by yahoo@doepfer.de
> One A-162 Dual Trigger Delay? > i think that, but i dont know can be controled by CV? > > Cheers How about the A-142 ? It can be used as a voltage controlled trigger delay. Best wishes Dieter Doepfer
2011-07-20 by Florian Anwander
Hi Dieter Am 20.07.2011 09:57, schrieb yahoo@doepfer.de: How about the A-142 ? It can be used as a voltage controlled trigger delay. How? Ok, it provides a voltage controlled gate length. But trigger delay? The inverted out would provide always a gate with length until the next straight note on... and that would be not wanted too. Florian
2011-07-20 by Bakis Sirros
that's what i would suggest too! :-) Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist [Doepfer_a100] group owner www. parallel - worlds - music. com www. facebook. com/ pages/Parallel-Worlds/192093934136476 www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic www. myspace. com/ memorygeist www. DiN. org. uk www. musicamaximamagnetica. com www. vu-us. com --- On Wed, 7/20/11, yahoo@doepfer.de <yahoo@doepfer.de> wrote:
From: yahoo@doepfer.de <yahoo@doepfer.de>
Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Re: What module i need to do that?
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 20, 2011, 10:57 AM
> One A-162 Dual Trigger Delay?
> i think that, but i dont know can be controled by CV?
>
> Cheers
How about the A-142 ? It can be used as a voltage controlled trigger delay.
Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2011-07-20 by Bakis Sirros
use the inverted gate out of the a142 and then pass it thru an a165 trigger modifier for trigger inversion? Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist [Doepfer_a100] group owner www. parallel - worlds - music. com www. facebook. com/ pages/Parallel-Worlds/192093934136476 www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic www. myspace. com/ memorygeist www. DiN. org. uk www. musicamaximamagnetica. com www. vu-us. com --- On Wed, 7/20/11, Florian Anwander <fanwander@mnet-online.de> wrote:
From: Florian Anwander <fanwander@mnet-online.de>
Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: What module i need to do that?
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 20, 2011, 11:09 AM
Hi Dieter
Am 20.07.2011 09:57, schrieb yahoo@doepfer.de:
How about the A-142 ? It can be used as a voltage controlled trigger delay.
How? Ok, it provides a voltage controlled gate length. But trigger
delay? The inverted out would provide always a gate with length until
the next straight note on... and that would be not wanted too.
Florian
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2011-07-20 by yahoo@doepfer.de
> Hi Dieter > > Am 20.07.2011 09:57, schrieb yahoo@doepfer.de: > How about the A-142 ? It can be used as a voltage controlled > trigger delay. > How? Ok, it provides a voltage controlled gate length. But trigger > delay? The inverted out would provide always a gate with length until > the next straight note on... and that would be not wanted too. > > Florian Hi Florian, one would need two A-142. Then you obtain the same functions a the A-162 but with voltage control. We are also working on a "real" voltage controlled gate delay module, i.e. the complete gate signal (rising and falling edge) is delayed. A bit like an audio delay but for gate signals. And as an option we think about an independend delay time for the rising and falling edge of the gate signal. The module is in a very early development state as we have to finish some other modules (A-143-4 Quad VCLFO/VCO with Sync/Reset, A-192-2 CV/Gate-to-Midi/USB interface, A-190-5 polyphonic Midi/USB-to-CV/Gate interface, 8x16 trigger sequencer, touch sensor module and some more). Best wishes Dieter
2011-07-20 by Florian Anwander
Am 20.07.2011 10:30, schrieb Bakis Sirros: > use the inverted gate out of the a142 and then pass it thru an a165 trigger modifier for trigger inversion? In any case a A-165 would convert the rising and the falling slope of a Gate into single triggers. You do not have to use the inverted out. So if the gate length is varied (by CV), then the distance of the two triggers will vary with the gate length. But I have to admit, that I don't like spending a sequencer row for adjusting the swing. Two other possibilities for getting swing without using the second row of the A-155 come to my mind: Feed the clock out of a A-154 into a A-160. Use the /2-output of the A-160 and feed it back into the Clock-CV-input of the A-154. The CV amount at the A-154 will control the swing factor. A similar patch can be done with the A-147 VC-LFO and an A-160.
2011-07-20 by selfoscillate
> We are also working on a "real" voltage controlled gate delay module, i.e. > the complete gate signal (rising and falling edge) is delayed. A bit like an > audio delay but for gate signals. And as an option we think about an > independend delay time for the rising and falling edge of the gate signal. > The module is in a very early development state as we have to finish some > other modules (A-143-4 Quad VCLFO/VCO with Sync/Reset, A-192-2 > CV/Gate-to-Midi/USB interface, A-190-5 polyphonic Midi/USB-to-CV/Gate > interface, 8x16 trigger sequencer, touch sensor module and some more). > > Best wishes > Dieter the "real" vc gate delay module is a great idea :) best wishes ingo
2013-06-15 by niroke
That image does not show a constant shuffle ratio. So the way I have done shuffle with the A-155 using the A-162 may not work, but it DOES work for a single set ratio. As there are two delays on the A-162, it may be possible to have two different ratios to choose from. Let me think for a second, and I apologize if these methods have been already suggested. First, if you can find a drum machine with trigger outs and shuffle (like a TR-707 or a Machinedrum), send the trig out to the A-155 Clock In. This is the easiest way, and you can have any rhythm of pattern without concerns of clock division, delays, switches, etc. Preferably it is a drum machine with a good song sequencer and other MIDI, DinSync, or clock interface options. The programmed trigger pattern advances the A-155 clock/step-position. One of the A-155 Trig or Gate outputs triggers the relevant VCA envelope. Rests in the pattern are inserted by using the trigger and gate switches, turning that step off for the output you are using. I take it back, the easiest way is to have a MIDI/CV converter send a gate pattern from a DAW sequencer, and you set the pitches and step on/off for each step at the A-155. For more modular-based, constant 16th note patterns these methods work great, but if you intend to have rests in your pattern it gets a bit more tricky. If I want a constant 16th note pattern with one shuffle ratio (I now realize two ratios are possible): Take an 1/8th note clock signal derived from the master clock, using either an LFO, a MIDI/CV device, another step sequencer (I use a row on one of my MAQs with an eighth note gate pattern), etc. This signal is split and sent to the input of an A-162 TDEL and a trigger combiner module of some sort, either a DIY module with a few diodes, a Logic module, or a Trigger Combiner module like one that Doepfer now offers. The A-162 TDEL output goes to the other input of the combiner. The Combiner output goes to A-155 Clock in. One of the A-155 Trig or Gate outputs triggers the relevant VCA envelope. As the eighth note clock pattern is creating the shuffled note from the quantized note, any rest in the clock pattern eliminates the shuffled note after the rest. Instead, rests in the pattern are inserted by using the trigger and gate switches, turning that step off for the output you are using. Because the clock step creates the shuffled note with an A-162 and there is so much space between clock steps, you can tune in shuffled values below 50%! What else can do this? At a value of 50% (tuned by using the A-162 Delay control), you would have a normal 16th note pattern. Less delay = shuffle below 50%, more delay = shuffle over 50%. Furthermore, you could insert a switch of some kind, either a manual toggle or an A-150 VC Switch. With this switch, you can turn the shuffle off and on without dialing the change manually. Either use the other half of the A-162 to create a 50% shuffle, and switch between them between the A-162 out and the trigger combiner. Or, if you derived your eighth note clock from a faster clock and a divider, use the 16th note out from the divider and switch between the steady 16th clock and the trigger combiner output going to the A-155 Clock in. I suppose you could switch between delayed variations by deriving your 1/8th clock from a 16th note clock source and a clock divider. The /2 out would provide your 1/8th clock. The /4 out would provide a 1/4 note pulse which you could use to switch an A-150 between the two delay variations before the trigger combiner. I haven't tried this but it seems like it would work. Maybe you could also use an A-115 Audio Divider. Either way, there could be some undesired overlap if delayed notes are pushed or pulled to far, because the A-162 output is set with the Length control, and always plays the full length once triggered. Another way I tried was with with an A-151 Quad Seq Switch: Use a 16th note clock signal. Split the clock signal and send to A-151 Trig In, I/O1, and I/O3. Send a delayed version of this signal to I/O2 and I/O4. Send the Master I/O signal to the A-155 clock in. Trigger/Gate row to ADSR. Each clock pulse switches between quantized trigger and shuffled trigger. Two different shuffle ratios can be sent to I/O2 and I/O4, but they will only be >50% because the delayed note is triggered by the 16th note clock, unlike the 8th note clock in the previous example. Rests are inserted as in the previous examples. Rests in the clock pattern would result in the shuffled triggers occurring where the quantized triggers should. Any thoughts on these methods? nick --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@...> wrote:
> > that's what i would suggest too!   :-) > > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner > > www. parallel - worlds - music. com > > www. facebook. com/ pages/Parallel-Worlds/192093934136476 > > www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic > > www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic > > www. myspace. com/ memorygeist > > www. DiN. org. uk > > www. musicamaximamagnetica. com > > www. vu-us. com > > --- On Wed, 7/20/11, yahoo@... <yahoo@...> wrote: > > From: yahoo@... <yahoo@...> > Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Re: What module i need to do that? > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wednesday, July 20, 2011, 10:57 AM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > One A-162 Dual Trigger Delay? > > > i think that, but i dont know can be controled by CV? > > > > > > Cheers > > > > How about the A-142 ? It can be used as a voltage controlled trigger delay. > > > > Best wishes > > Dieter Doepfer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >