Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Is it possible to connect a simple tom pad and a simple cymbal pad to
input 9/10 and control them separately (playing different sounds)?
What do I need?

Thanks for all answers

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "sirius9x" <4dddd@w...> wrote:
> Is it possible to connect a simple tom pad and a simple cymbal pad 
to
> input 9/10 and control them separately (playing different sounds)?
> What do I need?
> 
> Thanks for all answers

If I do the job correctly, you shouldn't need any more answers. Yes, 
you can connect a mono cymbal and a mono tom to 9/10. Use a mono 
cable out from each into a TRS splitter, or "Y" adapter, which has 
two mono female leads to accept your tom and cymbal cables and a 
single stereo male connector at the base of the "Y" for the 9/10 
input. (Do not use a splitter that has dual stereo ends; you will not 
get one of your components to work.) Then just set the respective 
voices and triggers for the two pads.

If you use a stereo pad in 9/10, like the 65S variety of snare and 
cymbal, you will not get a rim voice, since 9/10 cannot accommodate 
the rim switch that makes these pads "stereo." However, instead of 
two mono pads, you could use another company's dual-zone pad (Yamaha 
doesn't make anything that corresponds, except the BP80 bar pad), 
which typically feature a bow and bell for a cymbal or a rim and body 
for a snare. Only one dual-zone component will work in 9/10 at a 
time; it's like having two independent mono pads.

Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, rdamon@m... wrote:
> Another option to buying a splitter is to use the built-in splitter 
in the
> KP65. Plug the mono pad into the KP65 and the KP65 into zones 9/10. 
That
> will leave you with a stereo input in zone 1. You can then uses a 
stereo
> cymbal (pad/rim) in zone 1. This will allow adding a mono TP65 and 
a stereo
> PCY65S pad to the kit without using a splitter cable.

OGD,

Can you believe it (I certainly can)? After all this time, I still 
left something out. That's the last time I challenge myself. Drumb 
and Drumber, indeed.

Ed

Another option to buying a splitter is to use the built-in splitter in the
KP65. Plug the mono pad into the KP65 and the KP65 into zones 9/10. That
will leave you with a stereo input in zone 1. You can then uses a stereo
cymbal (pad/rim) in zone 1. This will allow adding a mono TP65 and a stereo
PCY65S pad to the kit without using a splitter cable.

OGD

> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject:	[DTXpress] Re: input 9/10
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "sirius9x" <4dddd@w...> wrote:
> > Is it possible to connect a simple tom pad and a simple cymbal pad 
> to
> > input 9/10 and control them separately (playing different sounds)?
> > What do I need?
> > 
> > Thanks for all answers
> 
> If I do the job correctly, you shouldn't need any more answers. Yes, 
> you can connect a mono cymbal and a mono tom to 9/10. Use a mono 
> cable out from each into a TRS splitter, or "Y" adapter, which has 
> two mono female leads to accept your tom and cymbal cables and a 
> single stereo male connector at the base of the "Y" for the 9/10 
> input. (Do not use a splitter that has dual stereo ends; you will not 
> get one of your components to work.) Then just set the respective 
> voices and triggers for the two pads.
> 
> If you use a stereo pad in 9/10, like the 65S variety of snare and 
> cymbal, you will not get a rim voice, since 9/10 cannot accommodate 
> the rim switch that makes these pads "stereo." However, instead of 
> two mono pads, you could use another company's dual-zone pad (Yamaha 
> doesn't make anything that corresponds, except the BP80 bar pad), 
> which typically feature a bow and bell for a cymbal or a rim and body 
> for a snare. Only one dual-zone component will work in 9/10 at a 
> time; it's like having two independent mono pads.
> 
> Ed
> 
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--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "sirius9x" <4dddd@w...> wrote:
> Is it possible to connect a simple tom pad and a simple cymbal pad 
to
> input 9/10 and control them separately (playing different sounds)?
> What do I need?
> 
> Thanks for all answers

Even another option:

Buy the splitter cable and move your Tom3 TP65 mono pad from zone 5 
to zone 9 and move your Ride1 PCY65 mono pad from zone 6 to zone 10. 

This will leave you with one stereo zone 5 and one Stereo (3-zone) 
Zone 6. 

Then the Zone 5 could be used with any stereo cymbal or pad. Just 
remember that on the base DtxpressII module it does not have choking 
capabilities on zone 5, if you choose to use it with a stereo cymbal 
pad like the PCY65S/PCY80S.

You could then use Zone 6, which has the ability to choke, with a 
PCY65S Cymbal pad. It could also be used with the soon to be release 
PCY150S three zone cymbal (bell/bow/edge) cymbal pad to add a three 
zone pad to your kit. 

Zone 6 could also be used with a TP65S, so that you could add three 
sounds (pad,rim1,rim2)

OGD

Hey, Ed (or anyone!) - I am happy to use a Y-splitter on my 9/10 
input to connect to separate pads.  But my problem is that no 
retailer I know of stocks them here in Adelaide, Australia.  I have 
had to make do with a Y-splitter that goes from a stereo "phono" 
plug to two mono "RCA" sockets, on which I have to add two adaptors. 
It's not the best setup!  Can anyone direct me to an on-line store, 
so I can order the Real McCoy?

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
<liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, rdamon@m... wrote:
> > Another option to buying a splitter is to use the built-in 
splitter 
> in the
> > KP65. Plug the mono pad into the KP65 and the KP65 into zones 
9/10. 
> That
> > will leave you with a stereo input in zone 1. You can then uses 
a 
> stereo
> > cymbal (pad/rim) in zone 1. This will allow adding a mono TP65 
and 

> a stereo
> > PCY65S pad to the kit without using a splitter cable.
> 
> OGD,
> 
> Can you believe it (I certainly can)? After all this time, I still 
> left something out. That's the last time I challenge myself. Drumb 
> and Drumber, indeed.
> 
> Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Carroll" <njcarroll56@y...> 
wrote:
> Hey, Ed (or anyone!) - I am happy to use a Y-splitter on my 9/10 
> input to connect to separate pads.  But my problem is that no 
> retailer I know of stocks them here in Adelaide, Australia.  I have 
> had to make do with a Y-splitter that goes from a stereo "phono" 
> plug to two mono "RCA" sockets, on which I have to add two 
adaptors. 
> It's not the best setup!  Can anyone direct me to an on-line store, 
> so I can order the Real McCoy?

Nick,

Drumbalaya.com sells the Hosa version, YPP117. I'm willing to bet 
that Musiansfriend, zzounds, SameDayMusic, et al. will have them, 
too. The only problem will be to find out which one has the best 
shipping policy to Australia. It's a small item. Any online stores 
down under?

Ed

> > Hey, Ed (or anyone!) - I am happy to use a Y-splitter on my 9/10 
> > input to connect to separate pads.  But my problem is that no 
> > retailer I know of stocks them here in Adelaide, Australia.  

Hi Nick

I think I have found a lead at Venue Music in Sydney with free 
delivery anywhere in Australia!! Check out:
http://www.venuemusic.com.au/Products.asp?ProdID=3164

I have not used one of these leads but it sounds like it is the right 
type.

Roger

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "ozteevan" <ozteevan@y...> wrote:
> > > Hey, Ed (or anyone!) - I am happy to use a Y-splitter on my 
9/10 
> > > input to connect to separate pads.  But my problem is that no 
> > > retailer I know of stocks them here in Adelaide, Australia.  
> 
> Hi Nick
> 
> I think I have found a lead at Venue Music in Sydney with free 
> delivery anywhere in Australia!! Check out:
> http://www.venuemusic.com.au/Products.asp?ProdID=3164
> 
> I have not used one of these leads but it sounds like it is the 
right 
> type.

Roger,

NIce find. Given the male connectors at the split, it's more an 
insert cable than an adapter, but the runs seem to be long enough. 
Thanks to you, NIck should be in business.

Ed

A belated thank you, Roger. I may need two of those cables
and a male-to-male adaptor, but it's a start!

          (Cable 1)             (Cable 2)      

MODULE =========------(ADAPTOR)------========BAR PAD
                \                   /
                 ---PAD            /

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "ozteevan" <ozteevan@y...> wrote:
> > > Hey, Ed (or anyone!) - I am happy to use a Y-splitter on my 
9/10 
> > > input to connect to separate pads.  But my problem is that no 
> > > retailer I know of stocks them here in Adelaide, Australia.  
> 
> Hi Nick
> 
> I think I have found a lead at Venue Music in Sydney with free 
> delivery anywhere in Australia!! Check out:
> http://www.venuemusic.com.au/Products.asp?ProdID=3164
> 
> I have not used one of these leads but it sounds like it is the 
right 

> type.
> 
> Roger

Hello every one. My name is Bobby, and I am new to the group. I 
recently purchased the DTXpress2. 
I know there has been many posts regarding the subject on "input 9/10 
connections"
Here is another one. I will be using a Y STEREO cable (stereo in, 
mono x 2 out) and plug it into input 9/10. Mono A to pad A, mono B to 
pad B. How/where do I go to to assign the pads?? I wish to connect 2 
pads for 2 different sounds using input 9/10.
It seems when I have completed the above steps, I receive the SAME 
sound on BOTH pads.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "vap19592000" <vap19592000@y...> 
wrote:
> Hello every one. My name is Bobby, and I am new to the group. I 
> recently purchased the DTXpress2. 
> I know there has been many posts regarding the subject on "input 
9/10 
> connections"
> Here is another one. I will be using a Y STEREO cable (stereo in, 
> mono x 2 out) and plug it into input 9/10. Mono A to pad A, mono B 
to 
> pad B. How/where do I go to to assign the pads?? I wish to connect 
2 
> pads for 2 different sounds using input 9/10.
> It seems when I have completed the above steps, I receive the SAME 
> sound on BOTH pads.

Off the top of my head, my guess is that your "Y" adaptor is actually 
stereo at each end. What you need is a true TRS splitter, which 
breaks down as you wrote above. Check to make sure that you have one. 
If the adaptor is correct, the pads should split into 9 and 10 
naturally when you strike them and carry their own parameters. 
Otherwise, you access only one input.