Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

I don't know anything about Broadway, but a power supply would not 
be hard to find. You just have to get the voltage numbers, mA, and 
the tip polarity (eg, 9v., 500 mA, positive--which is probably close 
to what the PM-16 needs); you might even have one with the correct 
rating lying around the house. The seller should be able to tell you 
what you need, but the manual should have the info, too. If they 
don't have the manual or the power supply, think twice.  Unless some 
kind-hearted soul is willing to copy the manual for you, you'll have 
to buy one from Roland at a ridiculous charge. You could always 
offer them $100 and see if they are willing to bargain. Otherwise 
wait for one to show up on ebay.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "underneathheaven <realvast@s...>" 
<realvast@s...> wrote:
> The website at Broadway Music says the PM-16 is used for $150 with 
> no power supply.  Do you think the equipment there is in ok shape 
> for being used?  Also, would it be hard to find a power supply?
> 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
> <liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > The PM-16 and midiKITI have no sounds of their own. They have to 
> use 
> > the Yamaha's. But if you're planning to add stereo or trio 
rubber 
> > pads, don't get either one, because they can't process them, 
only 
> > single or dual zone pads.
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "underneathheaven 
> <realvast@s...>" 
> > <realvast@s...> wrote:
> > > Hey ed, if we use the PM-16 is it possible to use the Yamaha 
> > sounds 
> > > or do we have to use the PM-16 sounds?  I don't even know if 
> this 
> > is 
> > > possible...  And the yamaha triggers will work correctly for 
> sure 
> > > right?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
> > > <liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > > Alternate Mode are at www.alternatemode.com. If that fails, 
> > > Broadway 
> > > > Music Consignments in Nashville were advertising a PM-16 for 
> > $100, 
> > > > which is about right (1-800-4U2-PLAY). I've never used the 
PM-
> > 16, 
> > > > but other members of this group have, and do. 
> > > > 
> > > > Hey, glad to help. I hope something turns up. It usually 
does.
> > > > 
> > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jadiebooshkie 
> > > > <jadiebooshkie@y...>" <jadiebooshkie@y...> wrote:
> > > > > I REALLY don't wanna spend a fortune, especially 
considering 
> > > that 
> > > > > this module is BRAND NEW!! And when Visulite makes a HH 
for 
> > > > Yamaha, 
> > > > > I will want to add that eventually.  I hope I can find the 
> > > > MidiKITI 
> > > > > or the PM-16.  Where can I get in touch with KAT?  And by 
> the 
> > > > > way...MANY THANX for all your help!!....Jade
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
> > > > > <liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > The DM5 is good for what it is, but one thing you won't 
> get 
> > > with 
> > > > > it 
> > > > > > is a fully variable hi hat (the full range from closed 
to 
> > > open), 
> > > > > > which you would definitely want with Visu-lite's 
assembly. 
> > The 
> > > > DM 
> > > > > > Pro gives you the variable hat, but I don't think you'll 
> get 
> > > the 
> > > > > > Yamaha's stereo or trio inputs or certain programmable 
> > > > parameters. 
> > > > > > You may not get the auxiliary input for your CD player 
> > either. 
> > > > You 
> > > > > > should research both Alesis modules carefully before 
> > jumping. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The Roland TMC-6, whether new or used, is probably a 
> better 
> > > buy 
> > > > > for 
> > > > > > you, both in terms of price and features. Unless you're 
in 
> > an 
> > > > > > enormous hurry, I wouldn't give up on the midiKiti Pro 
or 
> PM-
> > > 16 
> > > > > yet 
> > > > > > either. I take back what I said about the discontinued 
> > Roland 
> > > > > being 
> > > > > > a safer bet than the Kat. Alternate Mode, the small 
> company 
> > > that 
> > > > > now 
> > > > > > handles Kat products, has great technical support. You 
> could 
> > > > also 
> > > > > > ask them if they have a kiti in the shop or know where 
you 
> > > might 
> > > > > get 
> > > > > > one. They recently put someone who inquired in touch 
with 
> a 
> > > > seller 
> > > > > > in Florida. I'll also keep my eyes open and let you know.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jadiebooshkie 
> > > > > > <jadiebooshkie@y...>" <jadiebooshkie@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > I just sent this seller an email about the 
> > MidiKITI...we'll 
> > > > see 
> > > > > if 
> > > > > > > he/she answers.  I am thinking if I have to spend a 
> samll 
> > > > > > > fortune...perhaps I can upgrade the brain to a used 
> Alesis 
> > > DM-
> > > > 5 
> > > > > or 
> > > > > > a 
> > > > > > > DM PRO...that way I will have the outlets, that's only 
> if 
> > I 
> > > > can 
> > > > > > not 
> > > > > > > find something reasonably priced...will ley you know 
if 
> > and 
> > > > when 
> > > > > I 
> > > > > > > hear about the KAT....Jade
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
> > > > > > > <liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Here's an auction that's over, but the seller 
reported 
> > > that 
> > > > he 
> > > > > > has 
> > > > > > > a 
> > > > > > > > midiKITI Pro also for sale. It's the one to get. 
Maybe 
> > you 
> > > > can 
> > > > > > > reach 
> > > > > > > > him and ask if it's still available from the ebay 
> page, 
> > if 
> > > > > > you're 
> > > > > > > > interested. 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
> > > > > > > > ViewItem&item=2502767152&category=622
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jadiebooshkie 
> > > > > > > > <jadiebooshkie@y...>" <jadiebooshkie@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > I WAS ABLE to place the order for my cymbals via 
the 
> > > > > internet 
> > > > > > > (the 
> > > > > > > > > way Tom doesn't like)  I will email him again and 
> ask 
> > > him 
> > > > if 
> > > > > > he 
> > > > > > > > > received the order.  As far as the Visulite ride 
> goes, 
> > I 
> > > > > will 
> > > > > > > have 
> > > > > > > > > to figure out a way to hook it up, I just thae the 
> > DTXII 
> > > > > > modile, 
> > > > > > > > and 
> > > > > > > > > DON'T wanna loose other pads.  I searched ALL OVER 
> the 
> > > WEB 
> > > > > and 
> > > > > > > > > couldn't find the KatMIDI KITI....you know where I 
> can 
> > > > find 
> > > > > > one?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
> > > > > > > > > <liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Tom Pickard, designer and owner of the company, 
> > > doesn't 
> > > > > like 
> > > > > > > the 
> > > > > > > > > > internet sales process, though he hasn't been 
able 
> > to 
> > > > > delete 
> > > > > > > it 
> > > > > > > > > from 
> > > > > > > > > > his site, and would rather the company deal 
> directly 
> > > > with 
> > > > > > > > > customers 
> > > > > > > > > > via the phone number(voice mail if no one 
answers) 
> > or 
> > > > the 
> > > > > > > email 
> > > > > > > > > link 
> > > > > > > > > > on the ordering page. Specify your order and 
leave 
> a 
> > > > phone 
> > > > > > > > number 
> > > > > > > > > or 
> > > > > > > > > > email address; someone (maybe Tom) will return 
> your 
> > > call 
> > > > > or 
> > > > > > > > email 
> > > > > > > > > to 
> > > > > > > > > > get further info and a credit card # from you. 
Let 
> > me 
> > > > know 
> > > > > > if 
> > > > > > > > you 
> > > > > > > > > > don't get a response, and I'll tell Tom know 
next 
> > time 
> > > I 
> > > > > > speak 
> > > > > > > > > with 
> > > > > > > > > > him.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Ed
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Default settings on the Yamaha may allow 
crosstalk 
> > > > between 
> > > > > > the 
> > > > > > > > > bell 
> > > > > > > > > > and bow, but judicious raising of specific 
> rejection 
> > > and 
> > > > > > > > lowering 
> > > > > > > > > of 
> > > > > > > > > > gain as necessary will remove all trace of it.
> > > > > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jadiebooshkie 
> > > > > > > > > > <jadiebooshkie@y...>" <jadiebooshkie@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In 
DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
> > > > > > > > > > > <liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...> 
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Jade,
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for asking. I've had a little time to 
> > > tinker 
> > > > > and 
> > > > > > > test 
> > > > > > > > > the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Visu-lite 1800B ride today through the 
Yamaha, 
> > and 
> > > > I'm 
> > > > > > > > really 
> > > > > > > > > > > I am trying to order a visulite from their 
> online 
> > > > > > store...I 
> > > > > > > > > can't 
> > > > > > > > > > > seem to create an account, and there is only 
> voice 
> > > > mail 
> > > > > on 
> > > > > > > > their 
> > > > > > > > > > > phone number....HOW did you order 
yours?....Jade
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > impressed. It triggers every bit as reliably 
> and 
> > > as 
> > > > > > > > > sensitively 
> > > > > > > > > > as 
> > > > > > > > > > > > my first impression led me to believe. The 
> bell 
> > is 
> > > > > > > generous 
> > > > > > > > in 
> > > > > > > > > > > size 
> > > > > > > > > > > > and easy to hit. I haven't had time to 
> determine 
> > > the 
> > > > > > level 
> > > > > > > > of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > crosstalk between it and the bow yet, but 
I'll 
> > > > > > definitely 
> > > > > > > > get 
> > > > > > > > > > > there. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > I originally intended to mate the cymbal 
with 
> my 
> > > > > > midiKITI, 
> > > > > > > > > which 
> > > > > > > > > > > has 
> > > > > > > > > > > > some stacking features that the DTX doesn't, 
> but 
> > > it 
> > > > > > works 
> > > > > > > > too 
> > > > > > > > > > well 
> > > > > > > > > > > > through the Yamaha to justify any such move. 
> In 
> > > > fact, 
> > > > > it 
> > > > > > > > makes 
> > > > > > > > > > the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Yamaha ride voices actually sound good 
without 
> > > > > layering. 
> > > > > > > The 
> > > > > > > > > > Visu-
> > > > > > > > > > > > lite is confirming me in my purist ways.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Stick noise through the 1800B's rubber 
playing 
> > > > surface 
> > > > > > > over 
> > > > > > > > > the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > acrylic is a little more evident than on 
some 
> > > other 
> > > > > > > cymbals, 
> > > > > > > > > but 
> > > > > > > > > > > not 
> > > > > > > > > > > > bad at all. Those who play mostly through a 
> > > monitor 
> > > > > > won't 
> > > > > > > > > > flinch; 
> > > > > > > > > > > > those who use headphones should be able to 
> find 
> > > > > > > comfortable 
> > > > > > > > > > volume 
> > > > > > > > > > > > and gain settings. As for looks, when light 
> from 
> > a 
> > > > > lamp 
> > > > > > in 
> > > > > > > a 
> > > > > > > > > > dark 
> > > > > > > > > > > > rooms hits the translucent edges, the effect 
> is 
> > > > > > brilliant. 
> > > > > > > I 
> > > > > > > > > can 
> > > > > > > > > > > > imagine how the Visu-lites look on stage. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Ed
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In 
> DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jadiebooshkie 
> > > > > > > > > > > > <jadiebooshkie@y...>" <jadiebooshkie@y...> 
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In 
> > DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <liberatusvirus@y...>" 
<liberatusvirus@y...> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jade,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >This will be GREAT...ain't nothin' like 
> > playin' 
> > > > on 
> > > > > > real 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > HiHats....your critique of the Visulite 
> > > Ride...how 
> > > > > is 
> > > > > > it?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Remember that the only place that you 
can 
> > add 
> > > > new 
> > > > > > pads 
> > > > > > > > is 
> > > > > > > > > > > input 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9/10, which will take either two mono 
pads 
> > or 
> > > > one 
> > > > > > dual-
> > > > > > > > > zone 
> > > > > > > > > > > > pads. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The TP80s, as a stereo pad, won't give 
you 
> > > both 
> > > > > rim 
> > > > > > > and 
> > > > > > > > > body 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > through 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9/10, only the body. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Visu-lite hi hat assembly is 
> definitely 
> > on 
> > > > the 
> > > > > > > way. 
> > > > > > > > > Tom 
> > > > > > > > > > > and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > I 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > just procured a Yamaha module to serve 
as 
> > the 
> > > > > basis 
> > > > > > > for 
> > > > > > > > > it, 
> > > > > > > > > > > and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > got out his trusty ohm meter to measure 
> the 
> > > > signal 
> > > > > > of 
> > > > > > > > the 
> > > > > > > > > > > Yamaha 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > HH80 controller last Saturday. The plan 
is 
> > to 
> > > > make 
> > > > > a 
> > > > > > > > > > > controller 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > that 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > can accomodate both Roland and Yamaha 
> > modules 
> > > > with 
> > > > > > the 
> > > > > > > > > flick 
> > > > > > > > > > > of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > a 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > switch. Very cool.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ed
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, deb 
> maniace 
> > > > > > > > > > > > <jadiebooshkie@y...> 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Haven't had a chance to work on the 
> cross-
> > > talk 
> > > > > > issue,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but I did talk to Dave J from Yamaha, 
> and 
> > he 
> > > > > said 
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I could use a Y adapter to hook up 
more 
> > pads 
> > > > in 
> > > > > > lieu
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of another brain.  I think I will 
invest 
> > in 
> > > > > another
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dual zone cymbal, and maybe get the 
> TP80S, 
> > > and 
> > > > > > call 
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a day.  I will check out the the 
> > Visulites, 
> > > > and 
> > > > > I 
> > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HOPE they make a HH for Yamaha...it 
> would 
> > be 
> > > > > great 
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > play on a real HH...thanks for all 
your 
> > > help.  
> > > > I 
> > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be looking for your critique on the 
> > Visulite 
> > > > > Ride 
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bought.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jade
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "liberatusvirus 
> <liberatusvirus@y...>"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope that you solved that 
crosstalk 
> > > problem
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > between the hat and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the snare. The only cymbal that I've 
> had 
> > > > > trouble
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > getting to work 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > adequately through Yamaha 
electronics 
> is 
> > > the 
> > > > > Hart
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dual-zone ride. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rolands work, and the Pintech Zenbal 
> is 
> > > > > terrific,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > either in mono or 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > stereo (bow and rim, like the 
> Yamahas). 
> > My 
> > > > new
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > favorite is the Visu-
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lite 18" dual-zone ride. It is 
elegant 
> > > > looking 
> > > > > > > (mine
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is translucent 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > grey) and responsive. It comes in 
> either 
> > > > dual-
> > > > > > zone
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (separate trigger 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for the bell) or single zone (no 
> bell). 
> > I 
> > > > hope 
> > > > > > to 
> > > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a full report 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in a few days when I've had more 
time 
> > with 
> > > > it. 
> > > > > > You
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can take a good 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > look and get a demo of Visu-lite's 
> > cymbals 
> > > > in 
> > > > > > > action
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at their 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > website. If you do, check out the hi 
> > hat. 
> > > At 
> > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > point, there is 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only a Roland version, but a Yamaha 
> > > > compatible 
> > > > > hi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hat assembly is 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well in progress.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In 
> > > > > DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jadiebooshkie 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <jadiebooshkie@y...>" 
> > <jadiebooshkie@y...> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just wondering...what other brands 
> of 
> > > > > cymbals 
> > > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > work with the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DTExpress II...namely dual zones?  
> > Hart, 
> > > > > > Pintech
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Roland?...Anyone 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tried using these with the DTXII 
> > module?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
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