Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

The website at Broadway Music says the PM-16 is used for $150 with 
no power supply.  Do you think the equipment there is in ok shape 
for being used?  Also, would it be hard to find a power supply?


--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
<liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> The PM-16 and midiKITI have no sounds of their own. They have to 
use 
> the Yamaha's. But if you're planning to add stereo or trio rubber 
> pads, don't get either one, because they can't process them, only 
> single or dual zone pads.
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "underneathheaven 
<realvast@s...>" 
> <realvast@s...> wrote:
> > Hey ed, if we use the PM-16 is it possible to use the Yamaha 
> sounds 
> > or do we have to use the PM-16 sounds?  I don't even know if 
this 
> is 
> > possible...  And the yamaha triggers will work correctly for 
sure 
> > right?
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
> > <liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > Alternate Mode are at www.alternatemode.com. If that fails, 
> > Broadway 
> > > Music Consignments in Nashville were advertising a PM-16 for 
> $100, 
> > > which is about right (1-800-4U2-PLAY). I've never used the PM-
> 16, 
> > > but other members of this group have, and do. 
> > > 
> > > Hey, glad to help. I hope something turns up. It usually does.
> > > 
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jadiebooshkie 
> > > <jadiebooshkie@y...>" <jadiebooshkie@y...> wrote:
> > > > I REALLY don't wanna spend a fortune, especially considering 
> > that 
> > > > this module is BRAND NEW!! And when Visulite makes a HH for 
> > > Yamaha, 
> > > > I will want to add that eventually.  I hope I can find the 
> > > MidiKITI 
> > > > or the PM-16.  Where can I get in touch with KAT?  And by 
the 
> > > > way...MANY THANX for all your help!!....Jade
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
> > > > <liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > > > The DM5 is good for what it is, but one thing you won't 
get 
> > with 
> > > > it 
> > > > > is a fully variable hi hat (the full range from closed to 
> > open), 
> > > > > which you would definitely want with Visu-lite's assembly. 
> The 
> > > DM 
> > > > > Pro gives you the variable hat, but I don't think you'll 
get 
> > the 
> > > > > Yamaha's stereo or trio inputs or certain programmable 
> > > parameters. 
> > > > > You may not get the auxiliary input for your CD player 
> either. 
> > > You 
> > > > > should research both Alesis modules carefully before 
> jumping. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > The Roland TMC-6, whether new or used, is probably a 
better 
> > buy 
> > > > for 
> > > > > you, both in terms of price and features. Unless you're in 
> an 
> > > > > enormous hurry, I wouldn't give up on the midiKiti Pro or 
PM-
> > 16 
> > > > yet 
> > > > > either. I take back what I said about the discontinued 
> Roland 
> > > > being 
> > > > > a safer bet than the Kat. Alternate Mode, the small 
company 
> > that 
> > > > now 
> > > > > handles Kat products, has great technical support. You 
could 
> > > also 
> > > > > ask them if they have a kiti in the shop or know where you 
> > might 
> > > > get 
> > > > > one. They recently put someone who inquired in touch with 
a 
> > > seller 
> > > > > in Florida. I'll also keep my eyes open and let you know.
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jadiebooshkie 
> > > > > <jadiebooshkie@y...>" <jadiebooshkie@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > I just sent this seller an email about the 
> MidiKITI...we'll 
> > > see 
> > > > if 
> > > > > > he/she answers.  I am thinking if I have to spend a 
samll 
> > > > > > fortune...perhaps I can upgrade the brain to a used 
Alesis 
> > DM-
> > > 5 
> > > > or 
> > > > > a 
> > > > > > DM PRO...that way I will have the outlets, that's only 
if 
> I 
> > > can 
> > > > > not 
> > > > > > find something reasonably priced...will ley you know if 
> and 
> > > when 
> > > > I 
> > > > > > hear about the KAT....Jade
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
> > > > > > <liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > Here's an auction that's over, but the seller reported 
> > that 
> > > he 
> > > > > has 
> > > > > > a 
> > > > > > > midiKITI Pro also for sale. It's the one to get. Maybe 
> you 
> > > can 
> > > > > > reach 
> > > > > > > him and ask if it's still available from the ebay 
page, 
> if 
> > > > > you're 
> > > > > > > interested. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
> > > > > > > ViewItem&item=2502767152&category=622
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jadiebooshkie 
> > > > > > > <jadiebooshkie@y...>" <jadiebooshkie@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > I WAS ABLE to place the order for my cymbals via the 
> > > > internet 
> > > > > > (the 
> > > > > > > > way Tom doesn't like)  I will email him again and 
ask 
> > him 
> > > if 
> > > > > he 
> > > > > > > > received the order.  As far as the Visulite ride 
goes, 
> I 
> > > > will 
> > > > > > have 
> > > > > > > > to figure out a way to hook it up, I just thae the 
> DTXII 
> > > > > modile, 
> > > > > > > and 
> > > > > > > > DON'T wanna loose other pads.  I searched ALL OVER 
the 
> > WEB 
> > > > and 
> > > > > > > > couldn't find the KatMIDI KITI....you know where I 
can 
> > > find 
> > > > > one?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
> > > > > > > > <liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Tom Pickard, designer and owner of the company, 
> > doesn't 
> > > > like 
> > > > > > the 
> > > > > > > > > internet sales process, though he hasn't been able 
> to 
> > > > delete 
> > > > > > it 
> > > > > > > > from 
> > > > > > > > > his site, and would rather the company deal 
directly 
> > > with 
> > > > > > > > customers 
> > > > > > > > > via the phone number(voice mail if no one answers) 
> or 
> > > the 
> > > > > > email 
> > > > > > > > link 
> > > > > > > > > on the ordering page. Specify your order and leave 
a 
> > > phone 
> > > > > > > number 
> > > > > > > > or 
> > > > > > > > > email address; someone (maybe Tom) will return 
your 
> > call 
> > > > or 
> > > > > > > email 
> > > > > > > > to 
> > > > > > > > > get further info and a credit card # from you. Let 
> me 
> > > know 
> > > > > if 
> > > > > > > you 
> > > > > > > > > don't get a response, and I'll tell Tom know next 
> time 
> > I 
> > > > > speak 
> > > > > > > > with 
> > > > > > > > > him.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Ed
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Default settings on the Yamaha may allow crosstalk 
> > > between 
> > > > > the 
> > > > > > > > bell 
> > > > > > > > > and bow, but judicious raising of specific 
rejection 
> > and 
> > > > > > > lowering 
> > > > > > > > of 
> > > > > > > > > gain as necessary will remove all trace of it.
> > > > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jadiebooshkie 
> > > > > > > > > <jadiebooshkie@y...>" <jadiebooshkie@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
> > > > > > > > > > <liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...> 
wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Jade,
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for asking. I've had a little time to 
> > tinker 
> > > > and 
> > > > > > test 
> > > > > > > > the 
> > > > > > > > > > > Visu-lite 1800B ride today through the Yamaha, 
> and 
> > > I'm 
> > > > > > > really 
> > > > > > > > > > I am trying to order a visulite from their 
online 
> > > > > store...I 
> > > > > > > > can't 
> > > > > > > > > > seem to create an account, and there is only 
voice 
> > > mail 
> > > > on 
> > > > > > > their 
> > > > > > > > > > phone number....HOW did you order yours?....Jade
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > impressed. It triggers every bit as reliably 
and 
> > as 
> > > > > > > > sensitively 
> > > > > > > > > as 
> > > > > > > > > > > my first impression led me to believe. The 
bell 
> is 
> > > > > > generous 
> > > > > > > in 
> > > > > > > > > > size 
> > > > > > > > > > > and easy to hit. I haven't had time to 
determine 
> > the 
> > > > > level 
> > > > > > > of 
> > > > > > > > > > > crosstalk between it and the bow yet, but I'll 
> > > > > definitely 
> > > > > > > get 
> > > > > > > > > > there. 
> > > > > > > > > > > I originally intended to mate the cymbal with 
my 
> > > > > midiKITI, 
> > > > > > > > which 
> > > > > > > > > > has 
> > > > > > > > > > > some stacking features that the DTX doesn't, 
but 
> > it 
> > > > > works 
> > > > > > > too 
> > > > > > > > > well 
> > > > > > > > > > > through the Yamaha to justify any such move. 
In 
> > > fact, 
> > > > it 
> > > > > > > makes 
> > > > > > > > > the 
> > > > > > > > > > > Yamaha ride voices actually sound good without 
> > > > layering. 
> > > > > > The 
> > > > > > > > > Visu-
> > > > > > > > > > > lite is confirming me in my purist ways.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Stick noise through the 1800B's rubber playing 
> > > surface 
> > > > > > over 
> > > > > > > > the 
> > > > > > > > > > > acrylic is a little more evident than on some 
> > other 
> > > > > > cymbals, 
> > > > > > > > but 
> > > > > > > > > > not 
> > > > > > > > > > > bad at all. Those who play mostly through a 
> > monitor 
> > > > > won't 
> > > > > > > > > flinch; 
> > > > > > > > > > > those who use headphones should be able to 
find 
> > > > > > comfortable 
> > > > > > > > > volume 
> > > > > > > > > > > and gain settings. As for looks, when light 
from 
> a 
> > > > lamp 
> > > > > in 
> > > > > > a 
> > > > > > > > > dark 
> > > > > > > > > > > rooms hits the translucent edges, the effect 
is 
> > > > > brilliant. 
> > > > > > I 
> > > > > > > > can 
> > > > > > > > > > > imagine how the Visu-lites look on stage. 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Ed
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In 
DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jadiebooshkie 
> > > > > > > > > > > <jadiebooshkie@y...>" <jadiebooshkie@y...> 
wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In 
> DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
> > > > > > > > > > > > <liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...> 
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Jade,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >This will be GREAT...ain't nothin' like 
> playin' 
> > > on 
> > > > > real 
> > > > > > > > > > > > HiHats....your critique of the Visulite 
> > Ride...how 
> > > > is 
> > > > > it?
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Remember that the only place that you can 
> add 
> > > new 
> > > > > pads 
> > > > > > > is 
> > > > > > > > > > input 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 9/10, which will take either two mono pads 
> or 
> > > one 
> > > > > dual-
> > > > > > > > zone 
> > > > > > > > > > > pads. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The TP80s, as a stereo pad, won't give you 
> > both 
> > > > rim 
> > > > > > and 
> > > > > > > > body 
> > > > > > > > > > > > through 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 9/10, only the body. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The Visu-lite hi hat assembly is 
definitely 
> on 
> > > the 
> > > > > > way. 
> > > > > > > > Tom 
> > > > > > > > > > and 
> > > > > > > > > > > I 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > just procured a Yamaha module to serve as 
> the 
> > > > basis 
> > > > > > for 
> > > > > > > > it, 
> > > > > > > > > > and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Tom 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > got out his trusty ohm meter to measure 
the 
> > > signal 
> > > > > of 
> > > > > > > the 
> > > > > > > > > > Yamaha 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > HH80 controller last Saturday. The plan is 
> to 
> > > make 
> > > > a 
> > > > > > > > > > controller 
> > > > > > > > > > > > that 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > can accomodate both Roland and Yamaha 
> modules 
> > > with 
> > > > > the 
> > > > > > > > flick 
> > > > > > > > > > of 
> > > > > > > > > > > a 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > switch. Very cool.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Ed
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, deb 
maniace 
> > > > > > > > > > > <jadiebooshkie@y...> 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Haven't had a chance to work on the 
cross-
> > talk 
> > > > > issue,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > but I did talk to Dave J from Yamaha, 
and 
> he 
> > > > said 
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I could use a Y adapter to hook up more 
> pads 
> > > in 
> > > > > lieu
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of another brain.  I think I will invest 
> in 
> > > > another
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > dual zone cymbal, and maybe get the 
TP80S, 
> > and 
> > > > > call 
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > a day.  I will check out the the 
> Visulites, 
> > > and 
> > > > I 
> > > > > do
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > HOPE they make a HH for Yamaha...it 
would 
> be 
> > > > great 
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > play on a real HH...thanks for all your 
> > help.  
> > > I 
> > > > > will
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > be looking for your critique on the 
> Visulite 
> > > > Ride 
> > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > bought.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jade
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "liberatusvirus 
<liberatusvirus@y...>"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope that you solved that crosstalk 
> > problem
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > between the hat and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the snare. The only cymbal that I've 
had 
> > > > trouble
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > getting to work 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > adequately through Yamaha electronics 
is 
> > the 
> > > > Hart
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dual-zone ride. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rolands work, and the Pintech Zenbal 
is 
> > > > terrific,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > either in mono or 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > stereo (bow and rim, like the 
Yamahas). 
> My 
> > > new
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > favorite is the Visu-
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lite 18" dual-zone ride. It is elegant 
> > > looking 
> > > > > > (mine
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is translucent 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > grey) and responsive. It comes in 
either 
> > > dual-
> > > > > zone
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (separate trigger 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for the bell) or single zone (no 
bell). 
> I 
> > > hope 
> > > > > to 
> > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a full report 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in a few days when I've had more time 
> with 
> > > it. 
> > > > > You
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can take a good 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > look and get a demo of Visu-lite's 
> cymbals 
> > > in 
> > > > > > action
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at their 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > website. If you do, check out the hi 
> hat. 
> > At 
> > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > point, there is 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only a Roland version, but a Yamaha 
> > > compatible 
> > > > hi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hat assembly is 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well in progress.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In 
> > > > DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jadiebooshkie 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <jadiebooshkie@y...>" 
> <jadiebooshkie@y...> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just wondering...what other brands 
of 
> > > > cymbals 
> > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > work with the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DTExpress II...namely dual zones?  
> Hart, 
> > > > > Pintech
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Roland?...Anyone 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tried using these with the DTXII 
> module?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
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