Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

I REALLY don't wanna spend a fortune, especially considering that 
this module is BRAND NEW!! And when Visulite makes a HH for Yamaha, 
I will want to add that eventually.  I hope I can find the MidiKITI 
or the PM-16.  Where can I get in touch with KAT?  And by the 
way...MANY THANX for all your help!!....Jade


--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
<liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> The DM5 is good for what it is, but one thing you won't get with 
it 
> is a fully variable hi hat (the full range from closed to open), 
> which you would definitely want with Visu-lite's assembly. The DM 
> Pro gives you the variable hat, but I don't think you'll get the 
> Yamaha's stereo or trio inputs or certain programmable parameters. 
> You may not get the auxiliary input for your CD player either. You 
> should research both Alesis modules carefully before jumping. 
> 
> The Roland TMC-6, whether new or used, is probably a better buy 
for 
> you, both in terms of price and features. Unless you're in an 
> enormous hurry, I wouldn't give up on the midiKiti Pro or PM-16 
yet 
> either. I take back what I said about the discontinued Roland 
being 
> a safer bet than the Kat. Alternate Mode, the small company that 
now 
> handles Kat products, has great technical support. You could also 
> ask them if they have a kiti in the shop or know where you might 
get 
> one. They recently put someone who inquired in touch with a seller 
> in Florida. I'll also keep my eyes open and let you know.
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jadiebooshkie 
> <jadiebooshkie@y...>" <jadiebooshkie@y...> wrote:
> > I just sent this seller an email about the MidiKITI...we'll see 
if 
> > he/she answers.  I am thinking if I have to spend a samll 
> > fortune...perhaps I can upgrade the brain to a used Alesis DM-5 
or 
> a 
> > DM PRO...that way I will have the outlets, that's only if I can 
> not 
> > find something reasonably priced...will ley you know if and when 
I 
> > hear about the KAT....Jade
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
> > <liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > Here's an auction that's over, but the seller reported that he 
> has 
> > a 
> > > midiKITI Pro also for sale. It's the one to get. Maybe you can 
> > reach 
> > > him and ask if it's still available from the ebay page, if 
> you're 
> > > interested. 
> > > 
> > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
> > > ViewItem&item=2502767152&category=622
> > > 
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jadiebooshkie 
> > > <jadiebooshkie@y...>" <jadiebooshkie@y...> wrote:
> > > > I WAS ABLE to place the order for my cymbals via the 
internet 
> > (the 
> > > > way Tom doesn't like)  I will email him again and ask him if 
> he 
> > > > received the order.  As far as the Visulite ride goes, I 
will 
> > have 
> > > > to figure out a way to hook it up, I just thae the DTXII 
> modile, 
> > > and 
> > > > DON'T wanna loose other pads.  I searched ALL OVER the WEB 
and 
> > > > couldn't find the KatMIDI KITI....you know where I can find 
> one?
> > > > 
> > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
> > > > <liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > > > Tom Pickard, designer and owner of the company, doesn't 
like 
> > the 
> > > > > internet sales process, though he hasn't been able to 
delete 
> > it 
> > > > from 
> > > > > his site, and would rather the company deal directly with 
> > > > customers 
> > > > > via the phone number(voice mail if no one answers) or the 
> > email 
> > > > link 
> > > > > on the ordering page. Specify your order and leave a phone 
> > > number 
> > > > or 
> > > > > email address; someone (maybe Tom) will return your call 
or 
> > > email 
> > > > to 
> > > > > get further info and a credit card # from you. Let me know 
> if 
> > > you 
> > > > > don't get a response, and I'll tell Tom know next time I 
> speak 
> > > > with 
> > > > > him.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Ed
> > > > > 
> > > > > Default settings on the Yamaha may allow crosstalk between 
> the 
> > > > bell 
> > > > > and bow, but judicious raising of specific rejection and 
> > > lowering 
> > > > of 
> > > > > gain as necessary will remove all trace of it.
> > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jadiebooshkie 
> > > > > <jadiebooshkie@y...>" <jadiebooshkie@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
> > > > > > <liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > Jade,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thanks for asking. I've had a little time to tinker 
and 
> > test 
> > > > the 
> > > > > > > Visu-lite 1800B ride today through the Yamaha, and I'm 
> > > really 
> > > > > > I am trying to order a visulite from their online 
> store...I 
> > > > can't 
> > > > > > seem to create an account, and there is only voice mail 
on 
> > > their 
> > > > > > phone number....HOW did you order yours?....Jade
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > impressed. It triggers every bit as reliably and as 
> > > > sensitively 
> > > > > as 
> > > > > > > my first impression led me to believe. The bell is 
> > generous 
> > > in 
> > > > > > size 
> > > > > > > and easy to hit. I haven't had time to determine the 
> level 
> > > of 
> > > > > > > crosstalk between it and the bow yet, but I'll 
> definitely 
> > > get 
> > > > > > there. 
> > > > > > > I originally intended to mate the cymbal with my 
> midiKITI, 
> > > > which 
> > > > > > has 
> > > > > > > some stacking features that the DTX doesn't, but it 
> works 
> > > too 
> > > > > well 
> > > > > > > through the Yamaha to justify any such move. In fact, 
it 
> > > makes 
> > > > > the 
> > > > > > > Yamaha ride voices actually sound good without 
layering. 
> > The 
> > > > > Visu-
> > > > > > > lite is confirming me in my purist ways.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Stick noise through the 1800B's rubber playing surface 
> > over 
> > > > the 
> > > > > > > acrylic is a little more evident than on some other 
> > cymbals, 
> > > > but 
> > > > > > not 
> > > > > > > bad at all. Those who play mostly through a monitor 
> won't 
> > > > > flinch; 
> > > > > > > those who use headphones should be able to find 
> > comfortable 
> > > > > volume 
> > > > > > > and gain settings. As for looks, when light from a 
lamp 
> in 
> > a 
> > > > > dark 
> > > > > > > rooms hits the translucent edges, the effect is 
> brilliant. 
> > I 
> > > > can 
> > > > > > > imagine how the Visu-lites look on stage. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Ed
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jadiebooshkie 
> > > > > > > <jadiebooshkie@y...>" <jadiebooshkie@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
> > > > > > > > <liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Jade,
> > > > > > > > >This will be GREAT...ain't nothin' like playin' on 
> real 
> > > > > > > > HiHats....your critique of the Visulite Ride...how 
is 
> it?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > Remember that the only place that you can add new 
> pads 
> > > is 
> > > > > > input 
> > > > > > > > > 9/10, which will take either two mono pads or one 
> dual-
> > > > zone 
> > > > > > > pads. 
> > > > > > > > > The TP80s, as a stereo pad, won't give you both 
rim 
> > and 
> > > > body 
> > > > > > > > through 
> > > > > > > > > 9/10, only the body. 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > The Visu-lite hi hat assembly is definitely on the 
> > way. 
> > > > Tom 
> > > > > > and 
> > > > > > > I 
> > > > > > > > > just procured a Yamaha module to serve as the 
basis 
> > for 
> > > > it, 
> > > > > > and 
> > > > > > > > Tom 
> > > > > > > > > got out his trusty ohm meter to measure the signal 
> of 
> > > the 
> > > > > > Yamaha 
> > > > > > > > > HH80 controller last Saturday. The plan is to make 
a 
> > > > > > controller 
> > > > > > > > that 
> > > > > > > > > can accomodate both Roland and Yamaha modules with 
> the 
> > > > flick 
> > > > > > of 
> > > > > > > a 
> > > > > > > > > switch. Very cool.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Ed
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, deb maniace 
> > > > > > > <jadiebooshkie@y...> 
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Haven't had a chance to work on the cross-talk 
> issue,
> > > > > > > > > > but I did talk to Dave J from Yamaha, and he 
said 
> > that
> > > > > > > > > > I could use a Y adapter to hook up more pads in 
> lieu
> > > > > > > > > > of another brain.  I think I will invest in 
another
> > > > > > > > > > dual zone cymbal, and maybe get the TP80S, and 
> call 
> > it
> > > > > > > > > > a day.  I will check out the the Visulites, and 
I 
> do
> > > > > > > > > > HOPE they make a HH for Yamaha...it would be 
great 
> to
> > > > > > > > > > play on a real HH...thanks for all your help.  I 
> will
> > > > > > > > > > be looking for your critique on the Visulite 
Ride 
> you
> > > > > > > > > > bought.
> > > > > > > > > > Jade
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > --- "liberatusvirus <liberatusvirus@y...>"
> > > > > > > > > > <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > I hope that you solved that crosstalk problem
> > > > > > > > > > > between the hat and 
> > > > > > > > > > > the snare. The only cymbal that I've had 
trouble
> > > > > > > > > > > getting to work 
> > > > > > > > > > > adequately through Yamaha electronics is the 
Hart
> > > > > > > > > > > dual-zone ride. 
> > > > > > > > > > > Rolands work, and the Pintech Zenbal is 
terrific,
> > > > > > > > > > > either in mono or 
> > > > > > > > > > > stereo (bow and rim, like the Yamahas). My new
> > > > > > > > > > > favorite is the Visu-
> > > > > > > > > > > lite 18" dual-zone ride. It is elegant looking 
> > (mine
> > > > > > > > > > > is translucent 
> > > > > > > > > > > grey) and responsive. It comes in either dual-
> zone
> > > > > > > > > > > (separate trigger 
> > > > > > > > > > > for the bell) or single zone (no bell). I hope 
> to 
> > do
> > > > > > > > > > > a full report 
> > > > > > > > > > > in a few days when I've had more time with it. 
> You
> > > > > > > > > > > can take a good 
> > > > > > > > > > > look and get a demo of Visu-lite's cymbals in 
> > action
> > > > > > > > > > > at their 
> > > > > > > > > > > website. If you do, check out the hi hat. At 
this
> > > > > > > > > > > point, there is 
> > > > > > > > > > > only a Roland version, but a Yamaha compatible 
hi
> > > > > > > > > > > hat assembly is 
> > > > > > > > > > > well in progress.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In 
DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jadiebooshkie 
> > > > > > > > > > > <jadiebooshkie@y...>" <jadiebooshkie@y...> 
wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Just wondering...what other brands of 
cymbals 
> > will
> > > > > > > > > > > work with the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > DTExpress II...namely dual zones?  Hart, 
> Pintech
> > > > > > > > > > > Roland?...Anyone 
> > > > > > > > > > > > tried using these with the DTXII module?
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 
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