Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

The DM5 is good for what it is, but one thing you won't get with it 
is a fully variable hi hat (the full range from closed to open), 
which you would definitely want with Visu-lite's assembly. The DM 
Pro gives you the variable hat, but I don't think you'll get the 
Yamaha's stereo or trio inputs or certain programmable parameters. 
You may not get the auxiliary input for your CD player either. You 
should research both Alesis modules carefully before jumping. 

The Roland TMC-6, whether new or used, is probably a better buy for 
you, both in terms of price and features. Unless you're in an 
enormous hurry, I wouldn't give up on the midiKiti Pro or PM-16 yet 
either. I take back what I said about the discontinued Roland being 
a safer bet than the Kat. Alternate Mode, the small company that now 
handles Kat products, has great technical support. You could also 
ask them if they have a kiti in the shop or know where you might get 
one. They recently put someone who inquired in touch with a seller 
in Florida. I'll also keep my eyes open and let you know.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jadiebooshkie 
<jadiebooshkie@y...>" <jadiebooshkie@y...> wrote:
> I just sent this seller an email about the MidiKITI...we'll see if 
> he/she answers.  I am thinking if I have to spend a samll 
> fortune...perhaps I can upgrade the brain to a used Alesis DM-5 or 
a 
> DM PRO...that way I will have the outlets, that's only if I can 
not 
> find something reasonably priced...will ley you know if and when I 
> hear about the KAT....Jade
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
> <liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > Here's an auction that's over, but the seller reported that he 
has 
> a 
> > midiKITI Pro also for sale. It's the one to get. Maybe you can 
> reach 
> > him and ask if it's still available from the ebay page, if 
you're 
> > interested. 
> > 
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
> > ViewItem&item=2502767152&category=622
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jadiebooshkie 
> > <jadiebooshkie@y...>" <jadiebooshkie@y...> wrote:
> > > I WAS ABLE to place the order for my cymbals via the internet 
> (the 
> > > way Tom doesn't like)  I will email him again and ask him if 
he 
> > > received the order.  As far as the Visulite ride goes, I will 
> have 
> > > to figure out a way to hook it up, I just thae the DTXII 
modile, 
> > and 
> > > DON'T wanna loose other pads.  I searched ALL OVER the WEB and 
> > > couldn't find the KatMIDI KITI....you know where I can find 
one?
> > > 
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
> > > <liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > > Tom Pickard, designer and owner of the company, doesn't like 
> the 
> > > > internet sales process, though he hasn't been able to delete 
> it 
> > > from 
> > > > his site, and would rather the company deal directly with 
> > > customers 
> > > > via the phone number(voice mail if no one answers) or the 
> email 
> > > link 
> > > > on the ordering page. Specify your order and leave a phone 
> > number 
> > > or 
> > > > email address; someone (maybe Tom) will return your call or 
> > email 
> > > to 
> > > > get further info and a credit card # from you. Let me know 
if 
> > you 
> > > > don't get a response, and I'll tell Tom know next time I 
speak 
> > > with 
> > > > him.
> > > > 
> > > > Ed
> > > > 
> > > > Default settings on the Yamaha may allow crosstalk between 
the 
> > > bell 
> > > > and bow, but judicious raising of specific rejection and 
> > lowering 
> > > of 
> > > > gain as necessary will remove all trace of it.
> > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jadiebooshkie 
> > > > <jadiebooshkie@y...>" <jadiebooshkie@y...> wrote:
> > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
> > > > > <liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > Jade,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thanks for asking. I've had a little time to tinker and 
> test 
> > > the 
> > > > > > Visu-lite 1800B ride today through the Yamaha, and I'm 
> > really 
> > > > > I am trying to order a visulite from their online 
store...I 
> > > can't 
> > > > > seem to create an account, and there is only voice mail on 
> > their 
> > > > > phone number....HOW did you order yours?....Jade
> > > > > 
> > > > > > impressed. It triggers every bit as reliably and as 
> > > sensitively 
> > > > as 
> > > > > > my first impression led me to believe. The bell is 
> generous 
> > in 
> > > > > size 
> > > > > > and easy to hit. I haven't had time to determine the 
level 
> > of 
> > > > > > crosstalk between it and the bow yet, but I'll 
definitely 
> > get 
> > > > > there. 
> > > > > > I originally intended to mate the cymbal with my 
midiKITI, 
> > > which 
> > > > > has 
> > > > > > some stacking features that the DTX doesn't, but it 
works 
> > too 
> > > > well 
> > > > > > through the Yamaha to justify any such move. In fact, it 
> > makes 
> > > > the 
> > > > > > Yamaha ride voices actually sound good without layering. 
> The 
> > > > Visu-
> > > > > > lite is confirming me in my purist ways.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Stick noise through the 1800B's rubber playing surface 
> over 
> > > the 
> > > > > > acrylic is a little more evident than on some other 
> cymbals, 
> > > but 
> > > > > not 
> > > > > > bad at all. Those who play mostly through a monitor 
won't 
> > > > flinch; 
> > > > > > those who use headphones should be able to find 
> comfortable 
> > > > volume 
> > > > > > and gain settings. As for looks, when light from a lamp 
in 
> a 
> > > > dark 
> > > > > > rooms hits the translucent edges, the effect is 
brilliant. 
> I 
> > > can 
> > > > > > imagine how the Visu-lites look on stage. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Ed
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jadiebooshkie 
> > > > > > <jadiebooshkie@y...>" <jadiebooshkie@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
> > > > > > > <liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Jade,
> > > > > > > >This will be GREAT...ain't nothin' like playin' on 
real 
> > > > > > > HiHats....your critique of the Visulite Ride...how is 
it?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > Remember that the only place that you can add new 
pads 
> > is 
> > > > > input 
> > > > > > > > 9/10, which will take either two mono pads or one 
dual-
> > > zone 
> > > > > > pads. 
> > > > > > > > The TP80s, as a stereo pad, won't give you both rim 
> and 
> > > body 
> > > > > > > through 
> > > > > > > > 9/10, only the body. 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > The Visu-lite hi hat assembly is definitely on the 
> way. 
> > > Tom 
> > > > > and 
> > > > > > I 
> > > > > > > > just procured a Yamaha module to serve as the basis 
> for 
> > > it, 
> > > > > and 
> > > > > > > Tom 
> > > > > > > > got out his trusty ohm meter to measure the signal 
of 
> > the 
> > > > > Yamaha 
> > > > > > > > HH80 controller last Saturday. The plan is to make a 
> > > > > controller 
> > > > > > > that 
> > > > > > > > can accomodate both Roland and Yamaha modules with 
the 
> > > flick 
> > > > > of 
> > > > > > a 
> > > > > > > > switch. Very cool.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Ed
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, deb maniace 
> > > > > > <jadiebooshkie@y...> 
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Haven't had a chance to work on the cross-talk 
issue,
> > > > > > > > > but I did talk to Dave J from Yamaha, and he said 
> that
> > > > > > > > > I could use a Y adapter to hook up more pads in 
lieu
> > > > > > > > > of another brain.  I think I will invest in another
> > > > > > > > > dual zone cymbal, and maybe get the TP80S, and 
call 
> it
> > > > > > > > > a day.  I will check out the the Visulites, and I 
do
> > > > > > > > > HOPE they make a HH for Yamaha...it would be great 
to
> > > > > > > > > play on a real HH...thanks for all your help.  I 
will
> > > > > > > > > be looking for your critique on the Visulite Ride 
you
> > > > > > > > > bought.
> > > > > > > > > Jade
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > --- "liberatusvirus <liberatusvirus@y...>"
> > > > > > > > > <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > I hope that you solved that crosstalk problem
> > > > > > > > > > between the hat and 
> > > > > > > > > > the snare. The only cymbal that I've had trouble
> > > > > > > > > > getting to work 
> > > > > > > > > > adequately through Yamaha electronics is the Hart
> > > > > > > > > > dual-zone ride. 
> > > > > > > > > > Rolands work, and the Pintech Zenbal is terrific,
> > > > > > > > > > either in mono or 
> > > > > > > > > > stereo (bow and rim, like the Yamahas). My new
> > > > > > > > > > favorite is the Visu-
> > > > > > > > > > lite 18" dual-zone ride. It is elegant looking 
> (mine
> > > > > > > > > > is translucent 
> > > > > > > > > > grey) and responsive. It comes in either dual-
zone
> > > > > > > > > > (separate trigger 
> > > > > > > > > > for the bell) or single zone (no bell). I hope 
to 
> do
> > > > > > > > > > a full report 
> > > > > > > > > > in a few days when I've had more time with it. 
You
> > > > > > > > > > can take a good 
> > > > > > > > > > look and get a demo of Visu-lite's cymbals in 
> action
> > > > > > > > > > at their 
> > > > > > > > > > website. If you do, check out the hi hat. At this
> > > > > > > > > > point, there is 
> > > > > > > > > > only a Roland version, but a Yamaha compatible hi
> > > > > > > > > > hat assembly is 
> > > > > > > > > > well in progress.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jadiebooshkie 
> > > > > > > > > > <jadiebooshkie@y...>" <jadiebooshkie@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Just wondering...what other brands of cymbals 
> will
> > > > > > > > > > work with the 
> > > > > > > > > > > DTExpress II...namely dual zones?  Hart, 
Pintech
> > > > > > > > > > Roland?...Anyone 
> > > > > > > > > > > tried using these with the DTXII module?
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
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