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On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Scott <contact@...> wrote:

 

Whoa! Didn't you guys see the "No Drama" sign at the door? : )

I see both sides very clearly, but feel we do need to keep it civil. We make modules and music because it's fun, right? Let's disagree and talk about it and move on without insults. Save the emotion for the knob-tweakin'!

The grocery store metaphor was perfect.
The exact problem is that most people think a modular synth DIY supplier is like a grocery store. Well, it is, if one person is running the entire grocery store, doing the taxes, marketing, signage, website, mopping the floors, stocking the shelves and running the registers, all while actually doing a full-time job on the side, and a family, chronic family health issues, and maybe even school.

So if Paul wants to offer a sale with a set of pre-conditions, I completely understand because I'm in his shoes -- that extra packing time he saves is time he can spend with his kids, playing his modular, or sleeping. That money is going to be used to reinvest in ass-kicking new designs from Tony, since it is very expensive to keep all those PCBs and panels and parts in stock to ship at a moment's notice, which is something I hear Paul does a whole lot better than me!

Which brings me to the point: We are not grocery stores. Some people think we should be, and maybe we need to be more clear that we aren't.
The SDIY market, especially in 5U, does not support a business run with a classic business model. There simply is not enough demand.

Also important and not any form of excuse or cop-out: None of them need to do this financially. They either have jobs or could make as much bussing tables. Please don't piss off Paul, Paul, Tony, John, Laurie, Ken, etc., because if it gets to be no fun, they will just stop. That would completely suck.
Again, criticism is welcome and needed. Vitriol is not and not.

And after all, Tony was going to stop offering PCBs, wasn't he? Thanks Paul!

--- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, "dwv1957" <dragonslair@...> wrote:
>
> Yo Tom, are you buying any of Paul's modules? if not, then do us all a favor, and shut your trap!!
> The only thing Paul did wrong, was to tell everyone that the guy who orders 10 modules will get priority over the guy who orders 1 module.
> What Paul should have done, was not to say anything, then tell the guy who ordered the 1 module "sorry, but we are sold out" , then we wouldn't have you spamming this site with your verbal diarrhea!
>
> My 2c worth
>
> Dave
>
>
> --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, Tom Farrand <mbedtom@> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 1:22 PM, krisp audio <krisp14u@> wrote:
> > >
> > >> -------SNIP-------
> > >> >
> > >> > Disclaimer some boards are in short supply (like 2-3) and will be given
> > >> > priority to bigger orders
> > >> >
> > >> > Is this fair No but then most of you are over 10 years old and will have
> > >> > worked out that life isn't fair and cash is king
> > >> >
> > >> -------SNIP-------
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> All,
> > >>
> > >> " ... life isn't fair and cash is king."
> > >>
> > >> So, this is a "sale" to the the highest bidder? I see.
> > >
> > > No bidding this isn't EBay the price is fixed
> > >
> > >> Life being unfair is not a consequence ... it is a choice. I am over
> > >> 10 years of age and I see that rather clearly. Integrity was sold for
> > >> a few quid. Sad.
> > >
> > > Yes it is SAD that you posted this
> > >
> > > If my Integrity is sold for a few quid then God help me Im just trying to
> > > feed my family in hard times
> > >
> > > Do you get people having a go at you when you're doing your job?
> > >
> > > Or are you one of the guys who think making money out of synth is a crime
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If you have anything else to share please do
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Paul (Apparently the guy to have a go at for trying to make a living)Darlow
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Paul,
> >
> > You and I are at the grocery store. I wanted two heads of lettuce but
> > there was only one. No matter, I'll have cabbage instead. (The
> > distance I travel to the grocery store causes me to stock up because I
> > won't be back for some time. Motor car fuel is so expensive.)
> >
> > We get to the checkout. Oh! My grocery cart is a higher cost than is
> > yours. So, I will have your lettuce. And you have some lunch meat.
> > I'll have that too. After all, the one spending the most money gets
> > the preferential treatment. Cash is king! And don't blame the
> > grocer. After all, the grocer is just trying to feed his family.
> > Yeah, me too.
> >
> > The ultimate test of fairness is equitability. If the roles were
> > reversed would the participants still be content with the outcome? My
> > grocery store example is precisely the same logic. If I took food out
> > of your cart because I am spending more money, that seems rather a bit
> > unfair. What is wrong with first come – first served? Without that
> > basic premise, the person who merely wants to buy a loaf of bread and
> > a bottle of milk would never make it through the cashier. Everybody
> > else will almost always have a fuller cart. Should the buyer of only
> > bread and milk be denied his purchase? I guess so.
> >
> >
> > How you run your business is entirely up to you. By response volume,
> > it appears that I am in the small minority. The jury of public
> > opinion has spoken. All the same, I stand by my words.
> >
> >
> > To I-K Ahmad: In the case of the five or six 50" TVs for $200 each …
> > you made my point for me. In exactly the example you cited, it was
> > first come - first served. Yes? It was not how much you bought that
> > mattered, only that the first five or six people in the queue got the
> > deal. In your example and mine, the queue mattered most. I agree!
> >
> > Soapbox time remaining: 0.0
> > Tom Farrand
> >
>

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