+1 for option #2
-Jim
----- Original Message ----
From: Scott Deyo <
contact@...>
To:
ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.comSent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 8:54:21 PM
Subject: [ModularSynthPanels] Bug panel -- decisions...
Maybe the question should be:
Which of the following do you want? --
1) 2U panel that uses only the PCB circuit
2) 5U panel that uses 2 PCBs plus user-built circuitry -- Child Tones
(Ring mods), Disturb CVs.
I think one problem is that there is different usage of terms -- tone,
woggle, ring mod, child tones. I am confused! Even the schematics are
varied in their usage.
The PCBs from Jan have the Ring Mod Out, which is the Ring Mod from the
PLL.
The two Child Tones are the Ring Modded Woggled Tones from two 'Bugs,
and the Ring Modded Smooth Tones from two 'Bugs.
To replicate these, it looks like a single XOR would do for each
channel, or the builder could use CGS RRMs, Yusynth ring mods,
1496-based designs on protoboard, whatever.
And for the Disturb Input, we could buffer an external CV, w/ that jack
normalled to the internal stepped CV. I have a buffer PCB that would
work for this, or a Tellun MUUB-2 could be used for both channels.
Richard Brewster fades between two Disturb CVs, one of which is
normalled to the stepped CV, which would be nice. To replicate this we
would each have to do something on prototype, or make Tellun MUUB-4
PCBs work.
Richard, Grant, anyone: If we just use a buffer for a single Disturb
CV, normalled to the internal stepped CV, would negative CVs hurt the
PLL?
Richard, is that rectification for protection, or for better external
CV action?
Feel free to correct me on any of the above.
So you see why this is a big panel question: to mod or not to mod? If
to mod, in what ways?
Option 3:
2U 'Bug as per Jan's PCB.
1U 'Bug buddy expansion panel for the dual buggers -- 2 Child Tone
Outs, Disturb CVs w/ attenuators.
My head hurts.
Scott Deyo
The Bridechamber
contact@...www.bridechamber.com
On Mar 15, 2008, at 7:03 AM, Julian Ware wrote:
> I would vote for a dual 'bug with a couple extra
> features
>
> including:
>
> Child Tone outputs
> Ring Modulated Output
> Disturb Input.
>
> I think this would be the about closest you could get
> to the functionality of the Wiard Wogglebug.
>
> Thanks, Julian
>
> >> Tone outputs
> --- Scott Deyo <contact@...> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for that! Very good advice, Paul. I'll change
> > that on the 'Bug.
> > I didn't even look at the PCB!
> >
> > Scott Deyo
> > The Bridechamber
> > contact@...
> > www.bridechamber.com
> >
> >
> > On Mar 14, 2008, at 1:02 PM, krisp wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Scott and all
> > > That's almost the same as the panels I had made by
> > Schaeffer picture
> > > in the files somewhere
> > > I used on-on-on switches to get the 50%, EG and
> > LFO on one switch also
> > > used one of them on the LFO rate switch
> > >
> > >
> > > also I think the you should have the pots in this
> > order
> > >
> > > Rate
> > > Rate CV
> > > Cluster
> > >
> > > down the left hand side as they are in that order
> > on the PCB for easy
> > > mounting to the panel
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Paul Darlow
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: Scott Deyo
> > >> To: ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com
> > >> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 3:15 PM
> > >> Subject: [ModularSynthPanels] sn voice and 'bug
> > proposed designs
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Hello Group,
> > >>
> > >> I have proposed designs in the files section,
> > under Bridechamber
> > >> Proposed Designs.
> > >>
> > >> There is a 3U SN Voice and a 2U Wogglebug.
> > >> Both are standard, no-mod designs.
> > >>
> > >> The only thing on the SN voice is we will use a
> > toggle for the range.
> > >> Center off will leave
> > >> one cap connected, up will connect a big cap in
> > parallel, and down
> > >> will connect a medium
> > >> cap in parallel. Much easier and less expensive
> > than a rotary.
> > >> Also, I used a switch to choose between LFO and
> > EG PWM and left off
> > >> the fixed. Is OK or
> > >> should be try to jam a rotary in there? Or an
> > attenuator? It will get
> > >> cramped...
> > >>
> > >> I haven't heard much about the 'Bug -- some want
> > dual 'Bugs w/ Child
> > >> Tone outputs, but
> > >> this would make it 4U. I can do that, but I need
> > to know what people
> > >> want.
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >> Scott
> > >>
> > >
> > >
>
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