Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

I have both an RS7000 and XL7 and I prefer the RS for my main 
sequencer, as its easy to use (for me) and is my main sampler.The XL7 
however has better sounds, so I use it more for those. Ive never had 
my RS7000 freeze up or etc, since Ive had it. But I have had my XL7 
numerous times, doing crazy stuff. I like Yamahas hardware and Emu's 
sounds, if I could have a keyboard with the two combined, it would be 
gravy!

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Blue" <djrobblue@y...> wrote:
> I have both an RS7000 and XL7 and I prefer the RS for my main 
> sequencer, as its easy to use (for me) and is my main sampler.The 
XL7 
> however has better sounds, so I use it more for those. Ive never 
had 
> my RS7000 freeze up or etc, since Ive had it. But I have had my XL7 
> numerous times, doing crazy stuff. I like Yamahas hardware and 
Emu's 
> sounds, if I could have a keyboard with the two combined, it would 
be 
> gravy!


Why do you like the RS7000 more as a sequencer?  I;m considering 
picking one up.  Mainly for the groove control and tighter beats from 
using an internal sampler (I don't use the mp-7's drums too often).

Also how many of the knobs can be used for controlling external gear?

Jesse

> Why do you like the RS7000 more as a sequencer?  I;m considering 
> picking one up.  Mainly for the groove control and tighter beats 
from 
> using an internal sampler (I don't use the mp-7's drums too often).
> 
> Also how many of the knobs can be used for controlling external 
gear?
> 
> Jesse

I like the RS7000 as a sequencer because 

1) it has real time rec (which I use most of the time), grid rec, and 
step rec...The XL also has real time and step but to make a loop you 
have to "paste" it in a clipboard etc. The RS you just set the length 
of the loop for the track and it loops indefinently.( while having 
different length loops on difernt tracks)

2)You can set swing, midi delay, beat strecth, and loop remix 

3) If you quantize your tracks, the RS has more options. 

4) The RS has a sampler, which your samples can intergrate with the 
rest of the mix perfectly. 

5) The screens bigger

> I like the RS7000 as a sequencer because 
> 
> 1) it has real time rec (which I use most of the time), grid rec, 
and 
> step rec...The XL also has real time and step but to make a loop 
you 
> have to "paste" it in a clipboard etc. The RS you just set the 
length 
> of the loop for the track and it loops indefinently.( while having 
> different length loops on difernt tracks)

sounds good.

> 2)You can set swing, midi delay, beat strecth, and loop remix 

yup.

> 3) If you quantize your tracks, the RS has more options. 

deffinatly.

> 4) The RS has a sampler, which your samples can intergrate with the 
> rest of the mix perfectly. 

sure.
> 5) The screens bigger

deffinate plus.


the reason why i am agreeing with you is because since i posted my 
question i have taken the time to lurk on the rs7000 user group, 
printed the manual and tested one out at a local store.  im very 
impressed and will be selling my mp7 to buy one.  the extra groove 
functions and ability to swing and slide fwrd/back in time is really 
going to help.  and like you said being able to trigger samples 
internally instead of midi (or relying on emus samples) helps a lot 
too.

i still love my mp-7 though and its hard to say buy to it.  i have a 
yamaha a4000 and like the rs7000 even though it has a nice gui it 
still leaves me a little cold vibe wise, hard to explain.  i like the 
chunky/funky look of the mp-7 where as the rs looks kinda anemic.  
this shouldnt matter really but its just something i noticed.

i was suprised as how well the workflow of the rs7000 appeared to 
function.  i had this idea that i would have to be hitting stop all 
the time to enter menus but it seems just as "real time on the 
fly..." as the mp-7.  anyways i have nothing but respect for the emu 
stations but the yamaha just has a few more features that i find 
important.  

by the way how do you set up a groove quantize template that any 
phrase can then use?  seems like its stored per style/track.  can i 
just define an empty style with 16 grooves and then copy my phrases 
over to it to process?

Jesse

A quick reply .
2 methods.
Method 1) - Normalize play effect applies to all phrases in that track within a style.
Method 2) - the more flexible option. Edit your groove template ,play effects ,midi delay etc then overdub record to that phrase.
                 This gives you multiple groove templates for all 256 phrases within a style. You can even copy phrases perform this
                 job and then have subtle variants of the one phrase for dynamic groove shifts ....

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--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Blue" <djrobblue@y...> wrote:
> I have both an RS7000 and XL7 and I prefer the RS for my main 
> sequencer, as its easy to use (for me) and is my main sampler.The XL7 
> however has better sounds, so I use it more for those. Ive never had 
> my RS7000 freeze up or etc, since Ive had it. But I have had my XL7 
> numerous times, doing crazy stuff. I like Yamahas hardware and Emu's 
> sounds, if I could have a keyboard with the two combined, it would be 
> gravy!

Hey Rob,

I have the same setup as you RS7000 & XL7.  Love the RS, but love the sounds on the 
EMU even more.  Got some questions and thought you'd be the perfect person to ask.
Can you walk through the setup to make XL7 a sound module with my RS being the 
master seq.   Right now the only way I can select programs to XL7 via RS is on the 
first bank (MSB000/LSB000 GM bank 001 to 128) of the RS.  I can't access the other 
sounds on the XL7, can only go up to kits, percs, and hits...Now when I switch the 
Bank on the RS to access the rest of the sounds on XL7, I get this weird message on 
XL7 "C01A V127 P00 A:P ???? (not installed).

Do you know how to make my XL7 sing with the RS?

Thanks and look forward to your response!

Kevin Reynolds
k_eve_l@...

I DJ'ed (just spun CDs) at the Ava Lounge in NYC last night and mixed in the XL7. X-MIX absolutely rocks for this. 90 percent of the time, no one assumed I was doing anything other than playing CDs! Lots of fun. Will be doing it every sunday.

Ravi

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: k_eve_l 
  To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 9:13 PM
  Subject: [xl7] Re: Reply to quetion about RS7000....


  --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Blue" <djrobblue@y...> wrote:
  > I have both an RS7000 and XL7 and I prefer the RS for my main 
  > sequencer, as its easy to use (for me) and is my main sampler.The XL7 
  > however has better sounds, so I use it more for those. Ive never had 
  > my RS7000 freeze up or etc, since Ive had it. But I have had my XL7 
  > numerous times, doing crazy stuff. I like Yamahas hardware and Emu's 
  > sounds, if I could have a keyboard with the two combined, it would be 
  > gravy!

  Hey Rob,

  I have the same setup as you RS7000 & XL7.  Love the RS, but love the sounds on the 
  EMU even more.  Got some questions and thought you'd be the perfect person to ask.
  Can you walk through the setup to make XL7 a sound module with my RS being the 
  master seq.   Right now the only way I can select programs to XL7 via RS is on the 
  first bank (MSB000/LSB000 GM bank 001 to 128) of the RS.  I can't access the other 
  sounds on the XL7, can only go up to kits, percs, and hits...Now when I switch the 
  Bank on the RS to access the rest of the sounds on XL7, I get this weird message on 
  XL7 "C01A V127 P00 A:P ???? (not installed).

  Do you know how to make my XL7 sing with the RS?

  Thanks and look forward to your response!

  Kevin Reynolds
  k_eve_l@...


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