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Say, I want to use the patch #14 in my external sound module... Can I 
change it to #14 from the Xl-7? I have a sampler that for some reason 
doesn't route the incoming midi signal to the patch you are currently 
using... 


Can someone redirect me to the right page in the manual or guide me 
through the process? 

I've been looking around the manual for about an hour to no avail... 
Btw, I'm not complaning about the manual most things are really 
clearly explained, I just kind find where this patch thing it at...

thanks in advance...

You also need to make sure the track is set to EXT (Pattern Edit menu), 
and that there is a program change event on that track as well.

rEalm





sincultura13 <sincultura13@...>
07/21/2003 11:35 AM
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Last night I read old posts here and followed the steps but it didn't 
work...  I don't know what I hit yesterday but once I was able to 
change the patch to another but not the one I needed. :( I think 
might be confusing terms or something....Any help greatly appreciated.

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "sincultura13" <sincultura13@y...> wrote:
> Say, I want to use the patch #14 in my external sound module... Can 
I 
> change it to #14 from the Xl-7? I have a sampler that for some 
reason 
> doesn't route the incoming midi signal to the patch you are 
currently 
> using... 
> 
> 
> Can someone redirect me to the right page in the manual or guide me 
> through the process? 
> 
> I've been looking around the manual for about an hour to no 
avail... 
> Btw, I'm not complaning about the manual most things are really 
> clearly explained, I just kind find where this patch thing it at...
> 
> thanks in advance...



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Thanks! I could have sworn that I tried that yesterday... but it 
worked today.... Now, the problem I have is that the pads send an on 
messege to trigger the loop but instead of turn it off when I hit the 
pad again it retriggers it.... Is there a way to change that? 

thanks again


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> You also need to make sure the track is set to EXT (Pattern Edit 
menu), 
> and that there is a program change event on that track as well.
> 
> rEalm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> sincultura13 <sincultura13@y...>
> 07/21/2003 11:35 AM
> Please respond to xl7
> 
>  
>         To:     xl7@yahoogroups.com
>         cc: 
>         Subject:        [xl7] Re: How can I change my samplers 
patch from the Xl-7?
> 
> 
> Last night I read old posts here and followed the steps but it 
didn't 
> work...  I don't know what I hit yesterday but once I was able to 
> change the patch to another but not the one I needed. :( I think 
> might be confusing terms or something....Any help greatly 
appreciated.
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "sincultura13" <sincultura13@y...> 
wrote:
> > Say, I want to use the patch #14 in my external sound module... 
Can 
> I 
> > change it to #14 from the Xl-7? I have a sampler that for some 
> reason 
> > doesn't route the incoming midi signal to the patch you are 
> currently 
> > using... 
> > 
> > 
> > Can someone redirect me to the right page in the manual or guide 
me 
> > through the process? 
> > 
> > I've been looking around the manual for about an hour to no 
> avail... 
> > Btw, I'm not complaning about the manual most things are really 
> > clearly explained, I just kind find where this patch thing it 
at...
> > 
> > thanks in advance...
> 
> 
> 
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That would be a setting in your sampler, what kind is it?

rEalm



Now, the problem I have is that the pads send an on messege to trigger the 
loop but instead of turn it off when I hit the pad again it retriggers 
it.... Is there a way to change that? 








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The sampler is a Boss SP-505... though it has a very poor midi 
implimentation I've never had any problems with this before. I've had 
it for a long time and the first things I checked was all the 
settings, but it shouldn't be 'cuz I externally trigger samples all 
the time... It's like the Sp-505 doesn't know what to do with the 
incomming signal... if I bounce pads on the Xl-7 a certain way they 
stop the loops but is really innacurate... I only really need the 
pads to trigger single shots, but I still would like understand why 
this happends...





--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> That would be a setting in your sampler, what kind is it?
> 
> rEalm
> 
> 
> 
> Now, the problem I have is that the pads send an on messege to 
trigger the 
> loop but instead of turn it off when I hit the pad again it 
retriggers 

> it.... Is there a way to change that? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I'm guessing the midi implementation on the sp505 is probably identical to 
that on the sp808 (which I have).  Again, I still think this is a sampler 
setting, there should be away to change how the pads on the 505 play their 
samples, typically with options like: one shot, trigger, drum, repeat, 
etc.  The pads on the XL-7 will only ever be able to send out Midi note on 
and off messages, and the only option related to them from within the XX-7 
itself is the option to keep them from transmitting this data out the midi 
port.  Gotta be a sp505 setting.

rEalm




The sampler is a Boss SP-505... though it has a very poor midi 
implimentation I've never had any problems with this before. I've had 
it for a long time and the first things I checked was all the 
settings, but it shouldn't be 'cuz I externally trigger samples all 
the time... It's like the Sp-505 doesn't know what to do with the 
incomming signal... if I bounce pads on the Xl-7 a certain way they 
stop the loops but is really innacurate... I only really need the 
pads to trigger single shots, but I still would like understand why 
this happends...









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My coworker just dropped a SP-202 on my desk.  Pg 39 in the manual
(Section 6, MIDI) details "Trigger Playback" vs "Gate Playback".  In
trigger mode, each press of a note toggles the sound on and off.  In
gate mode, it behaves like a normal note (note down: sound on, note up:
sound off).

-Aaron

PS. the way you're getting it to work by hitting the pads a certain way
is because you're double triggering the pad.

--- sincultura13 <sincultura13@...> wrote:
> The sampler is a Boss SP-505... though it has a very poor midi 
> implimentation I've never had any problems with this before. I've 
> had it for a long time and the first things I checked was all the 
> settings, but it shouldn't be 'cuz I externally trigger samples 
> all the time... It's like the Sp-505 doesn't know what to do with
> the incomming signal... if I bounce pads on the Xl-7 a certain
> way they stop the loops but is really innacurate... I only really 
> need the pads to trigger single shots, but I still would like 
> understand why this happends...

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Thanks... Realm,  so you get to sample to play right with 
the "repeat" playback option selected for the sample ? My 
keyboard/computer does that without a problem... The Sp-505 has 
trigger, gate, and drum(single hits) and also the first two have the 
option to be looped.  


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> wrote:
> My coworker just dropped a SP-202 on my desk.  Pg 39 in the manual
> (Section 6, MIDI) details "Trigger Playback" vs "Gate Playback".  In
> trigger mode, each press of a note toggles the sound on and off.  In
> gate mode, it behaves like a normal note (note down: sound on, note 
up:
> sound off).
> 
> -Aaron
> 
> PS. the way you're getting it to work by hitting the pads a certain 
way

> is because you're double triggering the pad.
> 
> --- sincultura13 <sincultura13@y...> wrote:
> > The sampler is a Boss SP-505... though it has a very poor midi 
> > implimentation I've never had any problems with this before. I've 
> > had it for a long time and the first things I checked was all the 
> > settings, but it shouldn't be 'cuz I externally trigger samples 
> > all the time... It's like the Sp-505 doesn't know what to do with
> > the incomming signal... if I bounce pads on the Xl-7 a certain
> > way they stop the loops but is really innacurate... I only really 
> > need the pads to trigger single shots, but I still would like 
> > understand why this happends...
> 
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The Sp808 doesn't have that option, I was just throwing out the names of 
the most common ones that a lot of samplers have.  I only use GATE mode 
with the Sp808.

rEalm




Thanks... Realm,  so you get to sample to play right with 
the "repeat" playback option selected for the sample ? My 
keyboard/computer does that without a problem... The Sp-505 has 
trigger, gate, and drum(single hits) and also the first two have the 
option to be looped. 









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