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XL7 Presets for MP7 with XL1 Rom???

XL7 Presets for MP7 with XL1 Rom???

2003-07-20 by theringer01

I just upgraded my MP7 with the XL1 Rom. But I recognized that the XL1
presets are different from the XL7 presets. I can´t find the
XL7 presets in the web. EMU doesn´t have the XL7 presets on the
website
and they also can´t be found in the XL user Group Files section.

Can somebody upload the XL7 presets please or email them to me
directly? 

Please HEELP!

Thomas

Re: XL7 Presets for MP7 with XL1 Rom???

2003-07-21 by M2

What E-MU did with this originally was to change the ID's from the X-
Lead ROM(from the Xtreme Lead-1) and the Pure Phatt ROM(from the 
Mo'Phatt) to be used in the Command Stations.  This has been gone 
over before.  The ROM's that are in the Command Stations, while they 
have the same instruments, have different ROM ID's and the presets 
have been altered to accept the 16 knob controllers instead of the 12 
on the standard modules.

MP-7 (ROM ID / MROM) 
XL-7 (ROM ID / XROM)
Mo'Phatt (ROM ID / Pure Phatt)changed by E-MU to be used in the CS.
Xtreme Lead-1 (ROM ID / X-Lead)changed by E-MU to be used in the CS.

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Carlos Morra <carlos_morra@y...> wrote:
> I need them too !!
> 
> I have a MP7 and XL1 rack and I take out the rom from
> this and put on my MP7 !
> 
> Pls help me !!!
> --- theringer01 <theringer@c...> wrote:
> 
> ---------------------------------
> I just upgraded my MP7 with the XL1 Rom. But I
> recognized that the XL1
> presets are different from the XL7 presets. I can´t
> find the
> XL7 presets in the web. EMU doesn´t have the XL7
> presets on the
> website
> and they also can´t be found in the XL user Group
> Files section.
> 
> Can somebody upload the XL7 presets please or email
> them to me
> directly? 
> 
> Please HEELP!
> 
> Thomas 
> 
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Re: XL7 Presets for MP7 with XL1 Rom???

2003-07-22 by steve_the_composer

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "M2" <mmcquay@s...> wrote:
> What E-MU did with this originally was to change the ID's from the
> X-Lead ROM(from the Xtreme Lead-1) and the Pure Phatt ROM(from the 
> Mo'Phatt) to be used in the Command Stations.  This has been gone 
> over before.  The ROM's that are in the Command Stations, while
> they have the same instruments, have different ROM ID's and the
> presets have been altered to accept the 16 knob controllers instead
> of the 12 on the standard modules.
> 
> MP-7 (ROM ID / MROM) 
> XL-7 (ROM ID / XROM)
> Mo'Phatt (ROM ID / Pure Phatt)changed by E-MU to be used in the CS.
> Xtreme Lead-1 (ROM ID / X-Lead)changed by E-MU to be used in the CS.

Just for fun, I checked out some pdf manuals.  The ROM Instruments 
listed in the XL-1 manual and XL-7 manual (OpMan F) appear to be 
identical.  (Note: OpMan G lists 1076 ROM Instruments as opposed to 
1211! Also, XL-7 OpMan F lists 182 riffs, but contains duplicate 
names; XL-7 OpMan G lists 314 riffs and contains even more duplicate 
names; XL-1 manual lists 152 riffs.)

HOWEVER, the names of the XL-1 and XL-7 presets appear to be 
different.  Locations of same named presets are also different. 

I assume that the patchcords, initial controller amounts, etc.  in 
the presets of the two different XL ROMS (12 controller presets v. 16 
controller presets.

THUS, if someone takes an XL ROM from an XL-1 turbo (for example) and 
puts it in a non-XL Command Station, they might want to set up User 
Banks so they have the XL-7 presets as they exist in the XL-7 itself.

If someone uploads the XL-7 dumps, I would be willing to work with 
others to try to automate the conversion for the XL-1 ROM.  (As I 
understand it from the list, E-Mu has created user loadable banks so 
that XL-7 owners have the XL-1 presets assigned to the XL-7 ROM.)

Dr. Steve

Re: [xl7] Re: XL7 Presets for MP7 with XL1 Rom???

2003-07-22 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

I can do this tonight, if no one can do it any sooner.

rEalm



If someone uploads the XL-7 dumps, I would be willing to work with others 
to try to automate the conversion for the XL-1 ROM. 







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Re: XL7 Presets for MP7 with XL1 Rom???

2003-07-22 by steve_the_composer

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> I can do this tonight, if no one can do it any sooner.
> 
> rEalm

Thanks.

Dr. Steve

Re: XL7 Presets for MP7 with XL1 Rom???

2003-07-22 by Tammy Lewis

I have been looking for something similar, I would even be willing 
to pay someone to have it done. I have an xl-7, I have also added 
the rom from my mo-phatt to the xl7. What I want are the patterns 
from the MP-7. , again I can load them in with e-loader, but no 
sounds due to different rom id's. I f someone could convert these 
for me I would be greatful !!!!!!




--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> I can do this tonight, if no one can do it any sooner.
> 
> rEalm
> 
> 
> 
> If someone uploads the XL-7 dumps, I would be willing to work with 
others 
> to try to automate the conversion for the XL-1 ROM. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: [xl7] Re: XL7 Presets for MP7 with XL1 Rom???

2003-07-23 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

Sorry guys, didn't get a chance to get the XL-7 Presets last night, 
girlfriend's PC is on the fritz and I had to borrow parts from mine to try 
ans sort it out.  Might be a few days, I promise I'll get them to you all 
asap, if no one else does it first.

rEalm





"Tammy Lewis" <tammylewis65@...>
07/22/2003 04:35 PM
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I have been looking for something similar, I would even be willing 
to pay someone to have it done. I have an xl-7, I have also added 
the rom from my mo-phatt to the xl7. What I want are the patterns 
from the MP-7. , again I can load them in with e-loader, but no 
sounds due to different rom id's. I f someone could convert these 
for me I would be greatful !!!!!!




--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> I can do this tonight, if no one can do it any sooner.
> 
> rEalm
> 
> 
> 
> If someone uploads the XL-7 dumps, I would be willing to work with 
others 
> to try to automate the conversion for the XL-1 ROM. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: XL7 Presets uploaded in files section !!

2003-07-25 by xromxx7

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> 
wrote:
> If someone uploads the XL-7 dumps, I would be willing to work with 
> others to try to automate the conversion for the XL-1 ROM.  (As I 
> understand it from the list, E-Mu has created user loadable banks 
so that XL-7 owners have the XL-1 presets assigned to the XL-7 ROM.)

Hi all

I've just uploaded XL7 dumps in the files section ....They come from 
the latest rom called X-ROM which has one preset bank added in 
comparison with the previous one (called XL-7 if I remember well ....)
So.........I had to do some compromise (5 preset banks to load into 
only four USER ones !!), that's why X-ROM bank 04 (the new bank) will 
load into the same user bank (Bank 0) as X-ROM bank 0...In short, you 
can't have both in user memory !!
Former owners of XX7 (with the rom called XL-7), should really try 
this new bank it has some kicking ass presets !!!!
Ha and Dr Steve, if you could find a way to automate conversions on 
both sides (I mean XL7 to XL1 but also XL1 to XL7) you could make a 
whole bunch of people happier !! ( XX7 users who wants to put their 
hands on all these presets Xl-1 users have been doing for years so we 
could see what it worth....Curiosity will kill me someday !!!)
Anyway I'm glad I can contribute in some way .......

Regards

P.S  : The file is in Cubase VST 32 v5.1 song & arrangement formats

Re: [xl7] Re: XL7 Presets uploaded in files section !!

2003-07-25 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

Thanks for the upload, I've also uploaded the files in ".mid" format as 
well, for those people not using Cubase VST.

rEalm





I've just uploaded XL7 dumps in the files section ....

P.S  : The file is in Cubase VST 32 v5.1 song & arrangement formats 







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Re: XL7 Presets uploaded in files section !!

2003-07-25 by xromxx7

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> Thanks for the upload, I've also uploaded the files in ".mid" 
format as 
> well, for those people not using Cubase VST.
> 
> rEalm

Hi rEalm

I uploaded again XX7 factory presets into the files section and this 
time it's in Midifile 01 format.........Just because it has five 
banks instead of four , so I think this new bank should be of some 
interest for many people around here !!! You should try it too ;)

Cheers

P.S : I think we can get rid of previous uploads this one is the 
right one !!

Re: [xl7] Re: XL7 Presets uploaded in files section !!

2003-07-25 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

Thanks, I pulled mine down then, no need for repeats.  I'll take a listen 
to the new bank, but to be honest I never use Factory Presets, so I doubt 
I'll find much use in them.  I'd rather hit Randomize User Preset over and 
over again looking for new sounds, than scroll through Factory Presets :) 
That's just me though :)

rEalm






I uploaded again XX7 factory presets into the files section and this 
time it's in Midifile 01 format.........Just because it has five 
banks instead of four , so I think this new bank should be of some 
interest for many people around here !!! You should try it too ;)

Cheers

P.S : I think we can get rid of previous uploads this one is the 
right one !!



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Re: XL7 Presets uploaded in files section !!

2003-07-25 by xromxx7

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> Thanks, I pulled mine down then, no need for repeats.  I'll take a 
listen 
> to the new bank, but to be honest I never use Factory Presets, so I 
doubt 
> I'll find much use in them.  I'd rather hit Randomize User Preset 
over and 
> over again looking for new sounds, than scroll through Factory 
Presets :) 
> That's just me though :)
> 
> rEalm


Hmmm....Randomize Preset ....Seems to be a good idea !!! You make me 
realize I never tried it !!! I will do that ! Though I still think 
that sometimes some factory presets are a good starting point , they 
can give you an idea , a direction , you can also learn some tricky 
patchcords settings you never thought about so far etc ,etc...
I do think that everything that can improve creative process in some 
way is worth taking no matter where it comes from !!
Unfortunately these patches are mostly Bts which work with new riffs 
added in X-ROM chip, so great part of 'the effect' will be lost ...
Great multi-layered patches though ...should be good to randomize ;)

Re: [xl7] Re: XL7 Presets uploaded in files section !!

2003-07-25 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

Hmmm....Randomize Preset ....Seems to be a good idea !!! You make me 
realize I never tried it !!! I will do that ! 

>>>Hehe, I love Randomize, one of the best things about this box if you 
ask me. Just make sure you go in toPreset Edit after you find a cool sound 
and use the Solo Preset Layer function.  A lot of times Random will give 
you a 4 layer preset that sounds great, but it's really only using 1 or 2 
layers that make up the cool part of the sound.  MIght as well save some 
polyphony by turning off the layers that aren't adding anything to the 
sound. (set the intrument to NONE. <<< 

Though I still think that sometimes some factory presets are a good 
starting point , they 
can give you an idea , a direction , you can also learn some tricky 
patchcords settings you never thought about so far etc ,etc...

>>>For sure, not saying they aren't good or that people shouldn't use them 
(gotta put that in there for Ravi), just that FOR ME, they never fit the 
bill. :) <<<

rEalm


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F.Y.I. Re: XL7 Presets uploaded in files section !!

2003-07-25 by M2

XROM Bank 4
0. jam:Gothica
1. jam:Edgey
2. jam:Xstatic
3. jam:Sparkler
4. jam:Metro
5. jam:Humana
6. jam:Inspiration
7. bts:House Groove
8. bts:Hard Anthem
9. bts:Euro Beatz
10. bts:Mr.Logic
11. bts:Avenger
12. bts:Night Ride
13. bts:a la Rock
14. bts:LeaveItAlone
15. bts:UBradeRunner
16. bts:HighRise
17. bts:Liquid Cycle
18. bts:Dodecahedron
19. bts:Sassafras
20. bts:Space Race
21. bts:Go BF 2002
22. bts:Pulverize
23. bts:Boomstick
24. bts:LuvinDa3Way
25. bts:Nu Space 7
26. arp:Snowfall
27. arp:BlasterMan50
28. arp:Terradactyl
29. arp:MinorCell
30. arp:NoWare
31. arp:8Oh 8 Play
32. arp:RaguMoPlay
33. arp:SqrKit Jam
34. arp:Thumper
35. arp:Tribal Kit
36. arp:Gritar
37. arp:Funk Sauce
38. arp:TekOrgan
39. arp:HugePaddy
40. arp:Oink
41. bpm:Quavering
42. bas:Black Hole
43. bas:Image Bass
44. bas:Edge Bass
45. bas:Future Bass
46. bas:Snap Case
47. key:Pretty EP
48. key:FM EP
49. key:Classic EP
50. key:Pop Tort
51. key:Simblox
52. key:Metapad
53. key:Neotundra
54. key:Bass Piano
55. key:Superfisa
56. key:Club Organ
57. key:Dreamland
58. key:Dance Klav
59. syn:Analog Saw
60. syn:Chiff Square
61. syn:GlideStripes
62. syn:BossFilterz
63. syn:Randomizer
64. syn:Doom Growler
65. syn:Orbotron
66. syn:The Strange
67. syn:RingModKeyz
68. syn:AirBell
69. syn:Sync Waves
70. syn:Big Synth
71. syn:BigJuKnow
72. syn:Mach Sync
73. syn:Analog PWM
74. syn:Super CZ
75. syn:Stop Gap
76. syn:SpaceGong
77. led:QuiverWorm
78. led:WetCZ
79. led:Squared
80. led:Lo-Fi Square
81. bel:SupraChime
82. vox:ClassicQuire
83. vox:Ancients
84. vox:FuzzChoir
85. vox:ESQ-1 Choir
86. vox:Maranatha II
87. hit:Soul Tags
88. hit:GrainyHit
89. hit:Orch+Clap
90. hit:Cold Hit
91. hit:Darkness
92. brs:Just Kool
93. gtr:Strum&Bass
94. pad:MassivSaw
95. pad:Snowblind
96. pad:Angry Bots
97. pad:CrossingOver
98. pad:BassFluff
99. pad:ChimeTrance
100. pad:TheBigLife
101. cmb:Gtr Heaven
102. cmb:Sunny
103. cmb:Dark Castle
104. sfx:Alien Call
105. sfx:Stone Scrape
106. sfx:The Rip
107. prc:Mallet Synth
108. prc:AllScratches
109. prc:Fat Kicks
110. kit:PulseShiftR
111. bts:ShoppinSpree
112. bts:Broken Kit
113. bts:Out Cold
114. bts:ToThe J R
115. bts:Smoking Room
116. bts:Planet E-MU
117. bts:NubChompa!
118. bts:2X1/2TimeD&B
119. bts:DephBreaker
120. bts:DeepDownload
121. bts:Underwhirled
122. bts:Feelin House
123. bts:PimpinItHard
124. bts:Euro House
125. bts:Stadium Btz
126. bts:Garage Style
127. bts:Magic Air


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> Hmmm....Randomize Preset ....Seems to be a good idea !!! You make 
me 
> realize I never tried it !!! I will do that ! 
> 
> >>>Hehe, I love Randomize, one of the best things about this box if 
you 
> ask me. Just make sure you go in toPreset Edit after you find a 
cool sound 
> and use the Solo Preset Layer function.  A lot of times Random will 
give 
> you a 4 layer preset that sounds great, but it's really only using 
1 or 2 
> layers that make up the cool part of the sound.  MIght as well save 
some 
> polyphony by turning off the layers that aren't adding anything to 
the 
> sound. (set the intrument to NONE. <<< 
> 
> Though I still think that sometimes some factory presets are a good 
> starting point , they 
> can give you an idea , a direction , you can also learn some tricky 
> patchcords settings you never thought about so far etc ,etc...
> 
> >>>For sure, not saying they aren't good or that people shouldn't 
use them 
> (gotta put that in there for Ravi), just that FOR ME, they never 
fit the 
> bill. :) <<<
> 
> rEalm
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: XL7 Presets uploaded in files section !!

2003-07-25 by xromxx7

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> >>>Hehe, I love Randomize, one of the best things about this box if 
you 
> ask me. Just make sure you go in toPreset Edit after you find a 
cool sound 
> and use the Solo Preset Layer function.  A lot of times Random will 
give 
> you a 4 layer preset that sounds great, but it's really only using 
1 or 2 
> layers that make up the cool part of the sound.  MIght as well save 
some 
> polyphony by turning off the layers that aren't adding anything to 
the 
> sound. (set the intrument to NONE. <<< 


Thanks alot for this new tip man ! I'm burning to try this A.S.A.P !!


> Though I still think that sometimes some factory presets are a good 
> starting point , they 
> can give you an idea , a direction , you can also learn some tricky 
> patchcords settings you never thought about so far etc ,etc...
> 
> >>>For sure, not saying they aren't good or that people shouldn't 
use them 
> (gotta put that in there for Ravi), just that FOR ME, they never 
fit the 
> bill. :) <<<
> 
> rEalm


On my side I was just saying that sometimes I have a precise idea , I 
mean a certain sound in my head ....and it's far more quick and 
efficient for me to take a factory preset that hits close to what I'm 
after ,than relying on fortune or starting from scratch ( and then of 
course I tweak it to death , I also never use the sounds "as 
is"...That's what Synths are for IMHO....)
Now , you already changed my way of working in some aspects (Ha 
your "organizing " tips had great effect on me !!) you could do it 
again with this last tip.... who knows ?
You can start by taking a look at the patchnames list M2 has 
published, maybe some names will appeal to you ? And maybe YOU will 
find something interesting among these 127 new presets.....Never say 
never ;)))

Best Regards 

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Randomized and parametized preset generation

2003-07-27 by steve_the_composer

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> Thanks, I pulled mine down then, no need for repeats.  I'll take a 
listen 
> to the new bank, but to be honest I never use Factory Presets, so I 
doubt 
> I'll find much use in them.  I'd rather hit Randomize User Preset 
over and 
> over again looking for new sounds, than scroll through Factory 
Presets :) 
> That's just me though :)
> 
> rEalm

1.  How would you like to be able to generate a while bank of 
randomized presets at the press of a computer button?

2.  How would you like to be able to name layers you like the contour 
of so you can generate presets based on these layers?

3.  How would you like to have named sets of predefined parameters 
(eg, persoanlized patchcord/controller settings, FXA/FXB settings, 
preferred RIFF, preferred number of layers to use, preferred 
Instruments, etc.) so you can generate banks of presets based on 
those parameters?

That's some of the functionality I had in mind when talking about 
software a few weeks back. Let me know if anyone would find these 
functions helpful.

Dr. Steve

Re: [xl7] Randomized and parametized preset generation

2003-07-28 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

Yes, yes, and yes.   :)  The ability to specify a Randomize "Depth" would 
be nice too.

rEalm





1.  How would you like to be able to generate a while bank of 
randomized presets at the press of a computer button?

2.  How would you like to be able to name layers you like the contour 
of so you can generate presets based on these layers?

3.  How would you like to have named sets of predefined parameters 
(eg, persoanlized patchcord/controller settings, FXA/FXB settings, 
preferred RIFF, preferred number of layers to use, preferred 
Instruments, etc.) so you can generate banks of presets based on 
those parameters?

That's some of the functionality I had in mind when talking about 
software a few weeks back. Let me know if anyone would find these 
functions helpful.

Dr. Steve



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Re: Randomized and parametized preset generation

2003-07-28 by xromxx7

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> 
wrote:

> 1.  How would you like to be able to generate a while bank of 
> randomized presets at the press of a computer button?
> 
> 2.  How would you like to be able to name layers you like the 
contour 
> of so you can generate presets based on these layers?
> 
> 3.  How would you like to have named sets of predefined parameters 
> (eg, persoanlized patchcord/controller settings, FXA/FXB settings, 
> preferred RIFF, preferred number of layers to use, preferred 
> Instruments, etc.) so you can generate banks of presets based on 
> those parameters?
> 
> That's some of the functionality I had in mind when talking about 
> software a few weeks back. Let me know if anyone would find these 
> functions helpful.

RANDOMIZE function is new to me, but the more I try it the more I 
love it , these functionalities would make me totally addicted to 
it... I'm burning to see this on PC !!!

Re: Randomized and parametized preset generation

2003-07-28 by dwoodaman

So is the good doctor able to whip up something that would do this? 
Me would love this stuff.
Dana
--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> Yes, yes, and yes.   :)  The ability to specify a Randomize "Depth" 
would 
> be nice too.
> 
> rEalm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 1.  How would you like to be able to generate a while bank of 
> randomized presets at the press of a computer button?
> 
> 2.  How would you like to be able to name layers you like the 
contour 
> of so you can generate presets based on these layers?
> 
> 3.  How would you like to have named sets of predefined parameters 
> (eg, persoanlized patchcord/controller settings, FXA/FXB settings, 
> preferred RIFF, preferred number of layers to use, preferred 
> Instruments, etc.) so you can generate banks of presets based on 
> those parameters?
> 
> That's some of the functionality I had in mind when talking about 
> software a few weeks back. Let me know if anyone would find these 
> functions helpful.
> 
> Dr. Steve
> 
> 
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Re: [xl7] Re: Randomized and parametized preset generation

2003-07-28 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

Oh yeah, and you have to be able to specify the Bank if you're randomizing 
an entire one  ;)

rEalm



> 1.  How would you like to be able to generate a whole bank of 
> randomized presets at the press of a computer button?
> 
> 2.  How would you like to be able to name layers you like the 
contour 
> of so you can generate presets based on these layers?
> 
> 3.  How would you like to have named sets of predefined parameters 
> (eg, persoanlized patchcord/controller settings, FXA/FXB settings, 
> preferred RIFF, preferred number of layers to use, preferred 
> Instruments, etc.) so you can generate banks of presets based on 
> those parameters?



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