Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

OK, I'll bite, I put the little tip in there, with the correction too.
I was interested in what rEalm was saying ":Additionally I made 
custom Presets that act as drum RPS phrases in the Triggers (via 
arps, lots of info I posted on this if you search the message 
archives from last year)," and tried searching but didn't find the 
references - could someone point me to this, sounds real interesting.

>>>Here you go:

"I was thinking of a way to get the Trigger Keys to act as phrase 
triggers, similar to the way certain competitors' RPS or RPPR work.  I 
think if you used custom User Arps, that it might be possible, depending 
on how many MIDI channels you typically use in a Pattern or song.  Here's 
what I was thinking of doing, I'm just curious what everyone thinks, and 
whether or not I'm forgetting something that might cause this not to work. 

The goal with all of this, would be to trigger internal drum loops, or 
synth parts that are actually phrases, not just single notes.  For this 
example, I'll assume we want to trigger a basic drum beat, with a simple 
BD, snare, and HH Pattern.  By selecting one of the KIT Presets, and 
setting it's Arp to ON and Latch, you could then program the Preset arp to 
provide a simple beat.  There's probably already Factory Arps set up for 
this in fact, I just haven't checked yet.  You just need to remember the 
"root key" that you're pressing to make the arp trigger correctly and 
sound like a kit (more on this below).  So far the only limitation is that 
you can't have more than one arp step at the same location, so only one 
drum hit could happen at any one time. IF this whole scenario works 
however, you could have separate triggers for your BD, your snares, your 
HH's or whatever, so it might not even be an issue.  Once you set up the 
arp and save it to a User location, you then would save the Preset with 
that arp selected and in it's ON state. 

Here's the fun part.  You would need to select a blank Pattern, preferably 
one you've set up already as a "template" Pattern that you use as a 
starting place for composing all of your Patterns with.  Now assign that 
Preset you created to MIDI channel 1B (or whatever channel you want to 
use) and save the Pattern.  I assume that most of us typically just use 
the MIDI A channels, so this leaves us 16 "B" channels for our phrases. 
 So Trigger 1 would be a Preset on MIDI 1B, Trigger 2 would be a Preset on 
2B, etc.  Now you would go into the Controllers Menu, and set your first 
trigger to MIDI channel 1B, and the trigger note as the one you pressed 
from the second paragraph above.  Now when you press that trigger button, 
it will sound your drum Pattern!   

Now for the possible negative aspects:   

1. Assuming this works so far, this will only work for the Patterns that 
you saved the correct Preset to on the B channels.  So if you've got a lot 
of Patterns already, you would have to go back and save them all again 
with the new Presets on the right B channels.  If you've set up a lot of 
"RPS Persets"' on more than one channel, this could be very time 
consuming.   
2. If you don't have a lot of Patterns saved already, it's less of a 
hassle as you can make a template Pattern with all of your "RPS Presets" 
already saved to the correct channels, and just use E-Loader to copy it to 
all of your blank Patterns.  This way, no matter which empty Pattern you 
start writing with, the "RPS Presets" are already saved and hidden away on 
the B channels and you don't even need to think about them.   
3. Of course if you regularly use the B-channels, this method won't work 
either.  I'm sure a workaround is there though. 
4. You have to make sure you never, ever touch the Arp Presets or User 
Arps you created.  With so many banks available though, it shouldn't be an 
issue, just use one of the last ones and be sure to Sysex back them up. 

I'm tired and haven't tried this yet, but it seems feasible in theory. 
 Emu?  Is this possible?  What menus would you need to access to do this? 
 Can you save Presets on channels 1-16B, without losing the use of 1-16A 
for programming your Patterns?  Ideas anyone?  I'll give it a go tonight 
and see what happens regardless. "

rEalm



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