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I could never understand that from any manufacturer.  It's like, doesn't 
anyone actually read the english manuals before they print them?

rEalm





Man, some roland manuals are almost comedic with the amount of gibberish 
in them. The vm3100 pro(with the studio pack, my recording setup.) is so 
bad it has brought me to tears on several occasions. How they get away 
with laughably bad manuals, ill never know. 




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--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> I could never understand that from any manufacturer.  It's like, 
doesn't 
> anyone actually read the english manuals before they print 
them?
> 
> rEalm

I be sure someones be read the manuels and are complete not 
undifficult to misunderstood.

Clay

:)





Clay <bass17yl@...>
04/22/2003 09:58 AM
Please respond to xl7

 
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        Subject:        [xl7] Re: Bad manuals


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> I could never understand that from any manufacturer.  It's like, 
doesn't 
> anyone actually read the english manuals before they print 
them?
> 
> rEalm

I be sure someones be read the manuels and are complete not 
undifficult to misunderstood.

Clay



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OK, Let's play nice. In E-Mu's defense, it is really hard to write a
manual. 

In a perfect world the writer would have weeks with the FINAL VERSION
OF the equipment before they had to write the manual. That would give
them time to feel the flow of working with this cool new toy. Shake it, Twe=
ak it, 
get to know it, not just about it, and write a wonderful manual. One
that reads more like an adventure through this product rather that a group =
of
arranged facts.  I always liked the useful tutorials, lots of little ones t=
o
learn not just where a menu parameter is, but how to tickle it the right wa=
y.
Unfortunately back here on our dopey planet, you write the manual and
send it off to be printed before the product is even completed in many
cases. Yes those fun loving addendums are the bastard step children of the =

lastcool and nifty changes to the device that took place while the manual w=
as 
offbeing printed and bound and stuff. You have to send these manuals out 
weeks ahead of time. Hopfully Procuct X will be working and in stock to
ship when the manuals and the addendums from Kinkos arive.

It's hard to write good manuals.   :'(  

It's always way easier in the other world, not here.

Call me Psycho but I've been there a few times
.Anti-Fun.

PsychoGroove1



-- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
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> Clay <bass17yl@y...>
> 04/22/2003 09:58 AM
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> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> > I could never understand that from any manufacturer.  It's like, 
> doesn't 
> > anyone actually read the english manuals before they print 
> them?
> > 
> > rEalm
> 
> I be sure someones be read the manuels and are complete not 
> undifficult to misunderstood.
> 
> Clay
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--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "psychogroove1" <Reek@S...> wrote:
> OK, Let's play nice. In E-Mu's defense, it is really hard to write a
> manual. 

actually, the problem was with Roland manuals. We were wondering why 
they couldnt be more like E-mu. Oh, and Roland could take some 
customer support notes from E-mu too. .... and product support... E-
mu sets a high bar, and loyalty is their reward.

>OK, Let's play nice. In E-Mu's defense, it is really hard to write a
>manual.

I think you missed the point. No-one was complaining about emu's manuals.

Furthermore, you don't seem to have had the pleasure of perusing the
literary ouevres brought to us by the Roland Corporation.

bIz

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Actually  Rolands manuals's are shizophrenic - Some obviously have some thought
built into them and are very well put together, and others (Like the
VM3100pro's) were written by crack ho-s after a good party.  If you can call a
bunch of screen shots a manual.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ronn ... really it is [mailto:ronnmic1@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 9:54 AM
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [xl7] Re: Bad manuals


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "psychogroove1" <Reek@S...> wrote:
> OK, Let's play nice. In E-Mu's defense, it is really hard to write a
> manual.

actually, the problem was with Roland manuals. We were wondering why
they couldnt be more like E-mu. Oh, and Roland could take some
customer support notes from E-mu too. .... and product support... E-
mu sets a high bar, and loyalty is their reward.



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Amen!

----- Original Message -----
From: biz@...
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 12:47 PM
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: Bad manuals



>OK, Let's play nice. In E-Mu's defense, it is really hard to write a
>manual.

I think you missed the point. No-one was complaining about emu's manuals.

Furthermore, you don't seem to have had the pleasure of perusing the
literary ouevres brought to us by the Roland Corporation.

bIz

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