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XL-7 in Live P.A. setup

XL-7 in Live P.A. setup

2001-11-22 by audax@mb.sympatico.ca

I am considering purchasing the XL-7 to control the following gear in 
a live setting:

Ensoniq ASRX Pro Sampler
Yamaha AN1x Synth
Korg MS2000 Synth
Yamaha DX100 Synth
Roland Juno 106

I want to import Midi files into the XL-7, assign the proper midi 
channels to control 8 channels on the sampler, and one channel to 
each of the synths.  I want a seamless flow between tracks for dance 
sets up to 2 hours in length.  I wont be doing much tweaking on the 
XL-7, just controlling the patterns and maybe adding some percussion. 

Is the XL-7 what I am looking for?

Re: XL-7 in Live P.A. setup

2001-11-22 by albert_thorn@kickassmartians.com

> I am considering purchasing the XL-7 to control the following gear 
> in 
> a live setting:
> ...
> Is the XL-7 what I am looking for?

Yes, I think you should get an XL7 and see how it works out.  From 
the description of your needs, it sounds like the XL7 will work 
perfectly for you.  One of the many things I like about the XL7 is 
that is has less of an ego than other 'groove boxes' - it knows that 
it's not the center of the world, so it actually has useful features 
for interfacing with other devices.  It's the best hardware sequencer 
I have seen for controlling other synths in a live rig.  

Bonus:  The onboard sounds are so good that you might even find 
yourself leaving one or more of your favorite synths at home.

I just tried the E-Loader software a couple days ago.  I saved 
sequences as Type 0 MIDI files from Cubase, and then dumped them to 
the XL7 via MIDI dump.  On a Macintosh, the program worked very 
well.  Sometimes the dumps didn't work without restarting the 
program, but no major issues.  It's really a breeze to use and I 
think it substantially increases the value proposition for the XL7.  
The new OS next week will allow dumps via the built-in USB port.  
That should be more reliable, and much faster.

My advice is to get an XL7 and try it out for a couple weeks.  If it 
doesn't work for you, you can always return it.

- A.

Re: XL-7 in Live P.A. setup

2001-11-22 by dj Dave Jumpers

--- In xl7@y..., albert_thorn@k... wrote:
> > I am considering purchasing the XL-7 to control the following 
gear 
> > in 
> > a live setting:
> > ...
> > Is the XL-7 what I am looking for?

Since you have all those synths, I would by an MPC-3000LE if I was 
you.
I bought the RS7000 and I bought the XL-7 cause I can't afford the 
space and the money to have all those beautifull synths you have.

For Live PA, I create my songs with the RS and the XL and then I put 
samples into the SP_808EX and I use the SP to play my sections.
Then I mix songs among RS and SP then SP to XL and viceversa.

But since you have all that gear you probably won't need the internal 
sounds.
Unless, yeah, you want to save the space.
MPC sequencer kicks XL and RS ass.
-Dave-

Re: [xl7] XL-7 in Live P.A. setup

2001-11-23 by www.mp3.com/koering

well I use the xl-7 as center for my liveact... using other synths:
access virusb
jomox xbase09
future retro 777
emu esi 32

and it works great....I am not a yamaha freak, cause I had the RM1x and sold
the box cause it was not that cool.... other option is the MPC3000... but
safe the money and buy additional a EMU ESI32 . and you\ufffdve got also a good
sampler.... one big bonus of the XL-7 are the programmable knobs... real
great for synth which are controllable over midi.... or even for rebirth in
your PC.... maybe the mpc is a little bit constant in it\ufffds timing.... but it
has also an easier engine... not as powerful as the xl-7....(ok... there are
still some bugs...but time will solve them..) and I like the stepsequencer
in da xl-7 for drum programming.... all over all: GET THE XL-7.... but
that\ufffds my opinion... you should go to the shop and test the boxes... some
like yamaha, some akai.. and other ( like johannes heil..) the roland
MC-80.... I had the Yamaha RM1x and the Roland MC-80.... and now the XL-7...
and it\ufffds the best liveact center I have ever seen and used.... last weekend
in full action ....
also nice: teh lamp on the xl-7---- > good for bad club conditions....


----- Original Message -----
From: <audax@...>
To: <xl7@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 5:00 PM
Subject: [xl7] XL-7 in Live P.A. setup


> I am considering purchasing the XL-7 to control the following gear in
> a live setting:
>
> Ensoniq ASRX Pro Sampler
> Yamaha AN1x Synth
> Korg MS2000 Synth
> Yamaha DX100 Synth
> Roland Juno 106
>
> I want to import Midi files into the XL-7, assign the proper midi
> channels to control 8 channels on the sampler, and one channel to
> each of the synths.  I want a seamless flow between tracks for dance
> sets up to 2 hours in length.  I wont be doing much tweaking on the
> XL-7, just controlling the patterns and maybe adding some percussion.
>
> Is the XL-7 what I am looking for?
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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>
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>
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Re: XL-7 in Live P.A. setup

2001-11-23 by audax@mb.sympatico.ca

I've used the MC303, RM1X, and MC505 in the past and they are 
extremely poor for midi control.  The XL-7 is looking pretty juicy.  
Does anyone else have an opinion?

VA

--- In xl7@y..., "www.mp3.com/koering" <A.Libi@b...> wrote:
> well I use the xl-7 as center for my liveact... using other synths:
> access virusb
> jomox xbase09
> future retro 777
> emu esi 32
> 
> and it works great....I am not a yamaha freak, cause I had the RM1x 
and sold
> the box cause it was not that cool.... other option is the 
MPC3000... but
> safe the money and buy additional a EMU ESI32 . and you´ve got also 
a good
> sampler.... one big bonus of the XL-7 are the programmable knobs... 
real
> great for synth which are controllable over midi.... or even for 
rebirth in
> your PC.... maybe the mpc is a little bit constant in it´s 
timing.... but it
> has also an easier engine... not as powerful as the xl-7....(ok... 
there are
> still some bugs...but time will solve them..) and I like the 
stepsequencer
> in da xl-7 for drum programming.... all over all: GET THE XL-7.... 
but
> that´s my opinion... you should go to the shop and test the 
boxes... some
> like yamaha, some akai.. and other ( like johannes heil..) the 
roland
> MC-80.... I had the Yamaha RM1x and the Roland MC-80.... and now 
the XL-7...
> and it´s the best liveact center I have ever seen and used.... last 
weekend
> in full action ....
> also nice: teh lamp on the xl-7---- > good for bad club 
conditions....
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <audax@m...>
> To: <xl7@y...>
> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 5:00 PM
> Subject: [xl7] XL-7 in Live P.A. setup
> 
> 
> > I am considering purchasing the XL-7 to control the following 
gear in
> > a live setting:
> >
> > Ensoniq ASRX Pro Sampler
> > Yamaha AN1x Synth
> > Korg MS2000 Synth
> > Yamaha DX100 Synth
> > Roland Juno 106
> >
> > I want to import Midi files into the XL-7, assign the proper midi
> > channels to control 8 channels on the sampler, and one channel to
> > each of the synths.  I want a seamless flow between tracks for 
dance
> > sets up to 2 hours in length.  I wont be doing much tweaking on 
the
> > XL-7, just controlling the patterns and maybe adding some 
percussion.
> >
> > Is the XL-7 what I am looking for?
> >
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > xl7-unsubscribe@y...
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to 
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >

Re: XL-7 in Live P.A. setup

2001-11-23 by audax@mb.sympatico.ca

Thanks.  I'll take your advice.  It will be such a relief to get back 
to live perfomances again.

VA

--- In xl7@y..., albert_thorn@k... wrote:
> > I am considering purchasing the XL-7 to control the following 
gear 
> > in 
> > a live setting:
> > ...
> > Is the XL-7 what I am looking for?
> 
> Yes, I think you should get an XL7 and see how it works out.  From 
> the description of your needs, it sounds like the XL7 will work 
> perfectly for you.  One of the many things I like about the XL7 is 
> that is has less of an ego than other 'groove boxes' - it knows 
that 
> it's not the center of the world, so it actually has useful 
features 
> for interfacing with other devices.  It's the best hardware 
sequencer 
> I have seen for controlling other synths in a live rig.  
> 
> Bonus:  The onboard sounds are so good that you might even find 
> yourself leaving one or more of your favorite synths at home.
> 
> I just tried the E-Loader software a couple days ago.  I saved 
> sequences as Type 0 MIDI files from Cubase, and then dumped them to 
> the XL7 via MIDI dump.  On a Macintosh, the program worked very 
> well.  Sometimes the dumps didn't work without restarting the 
> program, but no major issues.  It's really a breeze to use and I 
> think it substantially increases the value proposition for the 
XL7.  
> The new OS next week will allow dumps via the built-in USB port.  
> That should be more reliable, and much faster.
> 
> My advice is to get an XL7 and try it out for a couple weeks.  If 
it 
> doesn't work for you, you can always return it.
> 
> - A.

Re: XL-7 in Live P.A. setup

2001-11-23 by audax@mb.sympatico.ca

I just cant justify buying an MPC as a sequencer though.  Far too 
pricy for what I would do with it.  The sampler would go untouched (I 
bought the ASRX Pro over an MPC because of the piss poor sampler and 
high expense to upgrade).  

More and more the XL-7 looks like the one to try out.

Besides... do they even make the 3000 anymore?

VA

--- In xl7@y..., "dj Dave Jumpers" <jumpers@i...> wrote:
> --- In xl7@y..., albert_thorn@k... wrote:
> > > I am considering purchasing the XL-7 to control the following 
> gear 
> > > in 
> > > a live setting:
> > > ...
> > > Is the XL-7 what I am looking for?
> 
> Since you have all those synths, I would by an MPC-3000LE if I was 
> you.
> I bought the RS7000 and I bought the XL-7 cause I can't afford the 
> space and the money to have all those beautifull synths you have.
> 
> For Live PA, I create my songs with the RS and the XL and then I 
put 
> samples into the SP_808EX and I use the SP to play my sections.
> Then I mix songs among RS and SP then SP to XL and viceversa.
> 
> But since you have all that gear you probably won't need the 
internal 
> sounds.
> Unless, yeah, you want to save the space.
> MPC sequencer kicks XL and RS ass.
> -Dave-