Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

Hey everyone, this group is pretty quiet.  Is there another
XL-7/MP-7 group where everyone is posting?  I don't have a unit yet
but am planning on getting one.  Before I did, I was hoping to see 
what it was all about before getting one.  I demoed it a little but I 
wanted to see what the impression was from people that was starting 
to dig deep into it.

Rick

----- Original Message -----

From: radside1@...

To: xl7@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:26 PM

Subject: [xl7] Quiet Group

Hey everyone, this group is pretty quiet.  Is there another
XL-7/MP-7 group where everyone is posting?  I don't have a unit yet
but am planning on getting one.  Before I did, I was hoping to see
what it was all about before getting one.  I demoed it a little but I
wanted to see what the impression was from people that was starting
to dig deep into it.

Rick



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That would be maybe a good idea, if the list moderator would announce this list on E-MU site. :-) to get more people in, huuu?

kamy

kgilani@... wrote:
> 
>      That would be maybe a good idea, if the list moderator would
>      announce this list on E-MU site. :-) to get more people in,
>      huuu?
> 
>      kamy
> 
>                   

It's in process.  We should have a link to yahoo XL-7 group on our web
site by the end of the week.

sean at e-mu / ensoniq

----- Original Message -----

From: Sean Wilhelmsen

To: xl7@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 9:09 AM

Subject: Re: [xl7] Quiet Group

kgilani@... wrote:
>
>      That would be maybe a good idea, if the list moderator would
>      announce this list on E-MU site. :-) to get more people in,
>      huuu?
>
>      kamy
>
>                  

It's in process.  We should have a link to yahoo XL-7 group on our web
site by the end of the week.

sean at e-mu / ensoniq


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--- In xl7@y..., radside1@h... wrote:
> Hey everyone, this group is pretty quiet.  Is there another
> XL-7/MP-7 group where everyone is posting?  I don't have a 
unit yet
> but am planning on getting one.  Before I did, I was hoping to 
see 
> what it was all about before getting one.  I demoed it a little but 
I 
> wanted to see what the impression was from people that was 
starting 
> to dig deep into it.
> 
> Ric
hey ive been lurking trying to learn about this badboy,didn't post 
'cause i don't know much yet. I dropped by Mars today and had a 
chance to play around with mp7. the sound quality was great but 
I didn't know my way around it so could only audition the presets.
They had a xl7 on display but not hooked up.I do hope that more 
users will post their knowledge here. is anybody knocked out by 
this baby? do ya love it-or no?-----and why?

----- > Ric
hey ive been lurking trying to learn about this badboy,didn't post
'cause i don't know much yet. I dropped by Mars today and had a
chance to play around with mp7. the sound quality was great but
I didn't know my way around it so could only audition the presets.
They had a xl7 on display but not hooked up.I do hope that more
users will post their knowledge here. is anybody knocked out by
this baby? do ya love it-or no?-----and why?

 

 

First off, thanks Sean for getting back to me on the "arm pattern" 
thing.  It is good to hear that there is a fix in the works. 
Do you know how long it might be before we see it? Oh ya, I don't 
wan't to be a pest but do you know if there is going to be some kind 
of list editer in the new os?

OK back to the topic.

"hey ive been lurking trying to learn about this badboy,didn't post 
   'cause i don't know much yet. I dropped by Mars today and had a 
   chance to play around with mp7. the sound quality was great but 
   I didn't know my way around it so could only audition the presets.
   They had a xl7 on display but not hooked up.I do hope that more 
   users will post their knowledge here. is anybody knocked out by 
   this baby? do ya love it-or no?-----and why?"

 "So, how are the other users here finding it?"

 I am loving it! Other than the "arm pattern" problem and the lack of 
a list editer or some other way to add program changes to my external 
gear.  But I have faith in E-MU and they are working on it already so 
it is just a matter of time.

This is the the best external sequencer i could buy for under 
$3000.00.
the only way I think might beat it would be to run a at least two 
Doepfer schaltwerk's together, but that is not sompthing i have tried 
so i am speaking withought hands on expearience. (The main reason i 
say that is based mainly on the the fact that there is a button for 
evry function on that box and that is nice for live work).

So why do i sey that, well i think the easiest way to put it is in 
point form so lets see......

1. you don't have to use a computer OS
2. it has 2 midi outs with a total of 32 midi chanals
3. there is no cap on the sequencer 
4. i couldent find another sequencer that would alow me to record on 
the fly (and yes i plan on using this in live work)
5. the keypads are volosity and aftertouch sensitive (dam why can't i 
spell?!)
6. unlike sompthing like a RM1x i can move through 896 patterns 
withought having to stop or have a glitch (new os pending)
7. 16 dedicated knobs to controll the synth, as well as a didacated 
glide (portamento) button.
8. the synth is massive
9. six outputs, four of witch can be used as FX send/returns(that is 
verry smart you guys at E-MU, thank you for thinking of that one!)
10. it is expandable
11. the thing is built like a tank, not like a MC-505 or RS7000
12. i can add 16 or 32 MB ram cards and burn my own samples using my 
E5000 sampler. (again, thank you guys at E-MU for another great idea! 
ill leave the mixer and the sampler at home when i play live now)

well that is about it for my shamless loving of the box at hand.

There are a few things that i wish where in there i will take this 
time to mention them, mainly becouse i have the time right now, love 
that weekend :)

Mike's wish list 

1. it would be great to be able to use the pattern quantize edit 
featuers on only selected tracks within a pattern
2. same thing with the volosity edit featuers
3. a list type editor
4. and no matter what i do or how much i beg it it just won't make me 
expresso when i wake up :P

" Is anyone planning on using the record button in a live situation? 
I've been thinking about this - laying down basslines and melodies 
from my ztar, and having them loop. Would that be cool? Hmm, looks 
like it's going to be another late night :> Let see how it goes.
 
   ----- > Ric"
please let me know how it went, i am curious how you are finding it.

well that's it for me today 

peace ya all

curiousproductions@... wrote:

> I am loving it! ... This is the the best external sequencer
> i could buy for under $3000.00.

So you just made my day...


> Mike's wish list
>
> 1. it would be great to be able to use the pattern quantize edit
> featuers on only selected tracks within a pattern
> 2. same thing with the volosity edit featuers

It already does that!  All of the edit functions affect only the unmuted
tracks.  Simply select the track(s) you'd like to quantize/velocity
scale/transpose/etc and perform the action.  The muted tracks will be
unaffected.


> 3. a list type editor

That's high on my list of things I want to do...


> 4. and no matter what i do or how much i beg it it just won't make me
> expresso when i wake up :P

Now that'd be a damn nice feature!

-Aaron

> curiousproductions@h... wrote:
> 
> > I am loving it! ... This is the the best external sequencer
> > i could buy for under $3000.00.
> 
> So you just made my day...

It is nice to hear that :) 
 
 
> > Mike's wish list
> >
> > 1. it would be great to be able to use the pattern quantize edit
> > featuers on only selected tracks within a pattern
> > 2. same thing with the volosity edit featuers
> 
> It already does that!  All of the edit functions affect only the 
unmuted
> tracks.  Simply select the track(s) you'd like to quantize/velocity
> scale/transpose/etc and perform the action.  The muted tracks will 
be
> unaffected.
> 

WOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOO! Thanks for mentioning that super tasty info.
> 
> > 3. a list type editor
> 
> That's high on my list of things I want to do...


YAY!
> 
> 
> > 4. and no matter what i do or how much i beg it it just won't 
make me
> > expresso when i wake up :P
> 
> Now that'd be a damn nice feature!

Ya see what you can do on that one but i understand if it don't work 
out ;)

> 
> -Aaron

hey Aaron are you the person who is wrighting the OS for the XL-7/MP-7
?

peace out ya all 

Mike

"First off, thanks Sean for getting back to me on the "arm pattern" 
> >thing. "
 
>" Yes, it's really sweet to have the developers here, active, and 
providing help as well as listening to us."

It shur is! i am totaly impressed with the levle of contact that i 
currently have with the E-MU people on this product i kinda can't 
belive it.  It is a techies dream come true.
> 
"> >1. you don't have to use a computer OS"
> >
> 
"> Interesting - personally, I would like to see >more< integration 
with external sequencers. I see the unit as a live extension of my 
studio, that I can take out to clubs."

Well the only way i can put it is like this, i have had BAD luck with 
the PC and no better luck with MAC and the lack of dependability that 
i have encountered with them.  It is just tooooooo much stress when i 
am coming close to a deadline, i have lost many months over the years 
due to HD falure and crashing OS's and dont want to deal with it any 
more. I am going to move my recording platform to sompthing other 
than the puter, I have been thinking about going to a darwin for 
this, i have only heard good things about them.  But I have to wonder 
if i can still get the jazz drives disk's that i would need.


> >" Is anyone planning on using the record button in a live 
situation? 
> >I've been thinking about this - laying down basslines and melodies 
> >from my ztar, and having them loop. Would that be cool? Hmm, looks 
> >like it's going to be another late night :> Let see how it goes.
> >
> >   ----- > Ric"
> >please let me know how it went, i am curious how you are finding 
it.
> >
> >well that's it for me today 
> 
> It was a late night as expected. The ztar and the xl-7 work really 
well together. Pretty much drum and bass in a box. You could keep a 
crowd entertained with nothing more.

Wicked
> 
"> The recording section isn't completely designed for such work but 
it does the trick, provided you know what you want to do before you 
start. I kept reaching for an 'undo' button, since not everything I 
play is worthy of being recorded, but couldn't find one. "

the best way i know it to use the erase button wile in record mode 
just press it and hold down the note/notes that you want to erase and 
as the loop cycles the unwanted notes are erased.

 
"> I also noticed something else - when two channels are pointed to 
the same drum kit, they are both affected by controller changes. Why 
is that? I had the "hybrid" kit on channels 2 and 5, and regardless 
of which of the two tracks was 'active,' twisting the quick edits - 
filter tweaks etc, affected drums playing from >both< tracks. (The 
tracks were set up to point only to their respective channels, rather 
than all)"

this is becouse you are playing the same "instrament" what I do in 
that situation is just save multiples of the instrament that you want 
to do that with, for instance i will have up to 5 tr-808's saved as 
tr808-1 through tr808-5 and have one per channel/track so i can tweak 
out the snare seperatly from the hi hats, you get the idea. It is 
much more like having a real tr808/909.  
I would like to add sompthing here, i hvae to say that i have heard 
alot of copies of the 808/909 synths and this thing is the best i 
have heard, i own a TD-5 drum head from roland that has a 808 in it 
and was using it just becouse i always found it cut through way more 
than samples off the E5000 but i took the time to compair the two as 
well as listening to recordings of trax that i know have been made 
with a 909 they are so dam close that i can not see the justification 
for the expence of going out and buying either.  expescialy a 808 
(most of my trax use this sound set) due to the lack of midi 
implamentasion on board.  the bass drums are identical no difference 
that i could hear over a mackie and a pair of beyer dynamic 911 
headphones, none at all! thank you E-MU.
*Phew* that was a rant.

well hope i dident make any 808/909 owners angry there it is not my 
intension i was just totaly surprised and impresed.

take care 
Mike

As an owner of an MC505, an RM1X, MC80ex, MMT-8, MSQ-100, QY70 and 
Cakewalk, I've been looking for a sequencer I can use live. This 
might be it.

More tracks than the 505, deeper synth editing than the RM1X, more 
real-time control than the MC80, faster to work with than the MMT-8, 
more note capacity than the MSQ, more outs than the QY70 and more 
portable than Cakewalk.

1. Latching the arpeggiator -- would have been great to have a 
dedicated button to latch the arp. I keep the arp latched and when I 
want to stop it, I go to the main preset screen, move the cursor to 
the arp parameter and use the data knob to switch the arp off. Not 
the most graceful real-time solution. Of course, I could unlatch the 
arp by playing the arpeggiated notes again, but I don't always 
remember which notes I'm arpeggiating.

2. Receive/transmit more CC#'s to edit NRPNs -- would be nice to use 
CC#'s 98 and 99 to control my Electribe drum machine (I can hear the 
chorus now: Why do you need the ER-1 when you've got the XL-7???!!!).

3. Send program changes -- This has been asked for by another user, 
but I've got one more thing to add: "me too."

4. Editing via an events list -- also posted by another user, but "me 
too."

5. Local off -- also posted by another user, but "yeah, what he said."

That's all I can think of for now. The more I use XL-7, the more I 
love it. Patch cords are an unexpected bonus. Pads that send 
aftertouch, for goodness' sake: Who would have thought of that? And 
being able to slip into and out of grid mode while the sequence is 
running sometimes makes me wet my pants. But I guess that's the price 
of joy. Well, I'm off to sell all my other sequencers now and buy an 
E5000 sampler so I can burn my own presets.

egwinn2000@... wrote:
> 
> As an owner of an MC505, an RM1X, MC80ex, MMT-8, MSQ-100, QY70 and
> Cakewalk, I've been looking for a sequencer I can use live. This
> might be it.
> 
> More tracks than the 505, deeper synth editing than the RM1X, more
> real-time control than the MC80, faster to work with than the MMT-8,
> more note capacity than the MSQ, more outs than the QY70 and more
> portable than Cakewalk.
> 
> 1. Latching the arpeggiator -- would have been great to have a
> dedicated button to latch the arp. I keep the arp latched and when I
> want to stop it, I go to the main preset screen, move the cursor to
> the arp parameter and use the data knob to switch the arp off. Not
> the most graceful real-time solution. Of course, I could unlatch the
> arp by playing the arpeggiated notes again, but I don't always
> remember which notes I'm arpeggiating.
> 


Use the triggers to latch your arps. We had your use scenario in mind
when we added the trigger feature.  There are 16 triggers. They can be
different notes, and MIDI channels with latching capabilities. The LED
will tell you if its latched. If you need to play a cord, use several
buttons. Each Trigger set up is stored with in a multi setup. You have 63.


> 2. Receive/transmit more CC#'s to edit NRPNs -- would be nice to use
> CC#'s 98 and 99 to control my Electribe drum machine (I can hear the
> chorus now: Why do you need the ER-1 when you've got the XL-7???!!!).
> 
> 3. Send program changes -- This has been asked for by another user,
> but I've got one more thing to add: "me too."
> 
You got it. Coming soon.


> 4. Editing via an events list -- also posted by another user, but "me
> too."

We're working on this one.
> 
> 5. Local off -- also posted by another user, but "yeah, what he said."

You got it. Coming soon.
> 
> That's all I can think of for now. The more I use XL-7, the more I
> love it. Patch cords are an unexpected bonus. Pads that send
> aftertouch, for goodness' sake: Who would have thought of that? And
> being able to slip into and out of grid mode while the sequence is
> running sometimes makes me wet my pants. But I guess that's the price
> of joy. Well, I'm off to sell all my other sequencers now and buy an
> E5000 sampler so I can burn my own presets.
> 
>                  

The 32 MB flash Memory boards are now avaible for your own presets, a
much better deal than the 16 MB ones.

sean at e-mu / ensoniq