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arranging thoughts

arranging thoughts

2003-02-27 by pocketd@gmx.de

Hi,

trying a bit to explain why I can´t get further with the XX-7 at the moment.

In the last month I made some nice patterns and finished with some nice
sound and rythms without arranging 
them as a song. 
Now I have two options to follow, first I could make longer and shorter
patterns to switch, that would be a lot 
of work as I want to change tracks playing, change volumes and record some
cc., besides it`s hard for me, 
cause I like playing with sounds freely without saying after that I``ll cut
that track at 1.04 and that at 
7.03.73. 
Second option would be using song mode, but that way of programming is quiet
difficult because getting now 
again repeating pattern structures that are difficult to program if they
repeat again.
It would be nice to get the songs you arranged back as a pattern, the only
way to do it is to record them with 
a software sequencer.
I think it`s still the best way is still to switch patterns manual as I
don`t want to sequence it with software, 
cause in a live situation that would be 2 computers and I think it`s all
getting too system crash possible, 
what? (my english...)

I read some month ago that you would get the patterns via e-loader down to
your computer to edit them 
there easier, or what do you do with them?
I think it`s a good way to edit volumes on an own multitrack as it`s easier
to get back to a constant volume, 
Well, I don``t now my way yet, but I know I didn`t find the right way yet,
but perhaps I`m just a bit lazy,

cheers,

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Re: [xl7] arranging thoughts

2003-02-27 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

In the last month I made some nice patterns and finished with some nice 
sound and rythms without arranging 
them as a song.  Now I have two options to follow, first I could make 
longer and shorter patterns to switch, that would be a lot of work as I 
want to change tracks playing, change volumes and record some cc., besides 
it`s hard for me, cause I like playing with sounds freely without saying 
after that I``ll cut that track at 1.04 and that at 
7.03.73.  Second option would be using song mode, but that way of 
programming is quiet difficult because getting now 
again repeating pattern structures that are difficult to program if they 
repeat again. 

>>>I know what you're saying, trying to organize stuff for live use can 
really drive person mental.  You want to have the repeatability of a song 
(ie, it's familar eacht iem you play it back) but at the same time you're 
trying to leave yourself as much room as possible for improvisation. Tough 
call, but I personally find it works best to keep everything in Pattern 
mode.  Yeah, you might have to switch patterns a lot more often than you'd 
like to, but in the end I think it is the most flexible option. <<

It would be nice to get the songs you arranged back as a pattern, the only 
way to do it is to record them with  a software sequencer. I think it`s 
still the best way is still to switch patterns manual as I don`t want to 
sequence it with software, cause in a live situation that would be 2 
computers and I think it`s all getting too system crash possible, what? 
(my english...)

>>>English isn't your first language? :)  Yeah, no need to have two 
computers up there, that would definitely only add the problems most 
likely. ,<

I read some month ago that you would get the patterns via e-loader down 
toyour computer to edit them there easier, or what do you do with them? I 
think it`s a good way to edit volumes on an own multitrack as it`s easier 
to get back to a constant volume.

>>>Personally, I make up most of my XL-7 stuff right in the box first. 
Once I get a good pattern happening there, I'll E-Load it into SX and use 
that program to draw in more intricate drum fills, or to change randomly 
vary the velocity, draw in controller ramps, etc.  All of the stuff that's 
currently (hint hint) not the easiest to do on just the XL-7.  As for 
matching volumes, you could do that via software too, though personally I 
think that's one thing that's easier to do right on the XL-7 (provided 
it's playing back when you save your changes).  <<<

rEalm






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