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house grooves on mp-7

house grooves on mp-7

2003-01-26 by dongorda <piotto@mac.com>

hi, i need some hints.
can i make house music with mp-7?

how can i:
1) import some grooves and use it to build up patterns? (and then, can i time-strech them like with the akai mpcs?)

2) find a library somewhere in the net where i can dig built "house-music" midi file grooves?


and, btw, is there a Emu ROM that you would suggest me to buy to do house music?

thanks much

don

Re: [xl7] house grooves on mp-7

2003-01-26 by Gary Saville

Hey Don,

the MP-7 is not a sampler, so you cannot time stretch. It's a groove box /
rompler pattern sequencer. And a damn good one.
Now as for midi house patterns, it would be much more benificial for you to
learn how to program house for yourself. House patterns groove around a 4 on
the floor kick. You have a very powerfull step sequencer under your thumbs.
And a very easy to use one at that.
Pull out a house record with some hi hats you like. Listen to the pattern,
then try recreating that pattern in your emu. Do the same thing for kick /
snare patterns. Then congo / bonga patterns.
You can then use these pattern for any preset sound in the box!
It might take a month or two of programming patterns. However it soon
becomes very natural. If your in a club, and you hear a dope pattern, half
of you will be shak'n your ass,  the other half will be programming that
pattern into YOUR memory buffer for tranfering to your MP-7 :)...

Do you have any experience with step base sequencing?

Best of luck.

Gary
saville@...
www.heilo.com

Re: [xl7] house grooves on mp-7

2003-01-26 by piotto

gary,
thks much for your quick answer...

yeah i know mp7 is not a sampler (i own one), but i didn't mind asking 
that question, you'll never know there's some kinda trick!
(i hate reading manuals...!!)

since i also have pro tools tdm, reason and live, i'm using a computer 
all day long... (it's great stuff, but sometimes you really dream about 
putting you hands on some REAL knobs!!!!)

what i was hoping is just to be able to use the mp7 as a standalone 
device to produce house patterns from A to Z...

when I start composing house music, I hardly DARE to create a new 
groove from scratch: it will take me ages and the result will never be 
as good as sampling a groove around... grooves need to be 100% 
"standard" if you don't wanna run in a distributor saying to you: "good 
stuff but too innovative, we don't need it right now...", as already 
happened to me...

i have seen in the emu web-site that i can buy a ROM chip which i can 
fill up with my sounds, or something like that...
(btw, the price of the EMPTY chip was ridiculous...?? crazy, just an 
EMPTY 32 MB chip costs more than the filled-up ones... are there some 
compatible ones in the market?)

so, i can see only 2 ways to produce some "almost-pro" house-music via 
an mp7:

1) I take my favorite drums and percussion grooves, i loop them 
carefully on 4 bars at a standard tempo (say 127), i save them in the 
empty rom and use them as a preset triggered by a note every 4 beats... 
and i can focus on the rest of the song without wasting too much time...

2) you guys please tell me which extra emu rom (IF ANY!) has some house 
sounds (the kits of mp7 sound a lot hip-hop and r&b, but not really 
house to me...; yeah, percussions are ok though) and WHERE can i find 
some "house-music" midi grooves!!! if some of you can help me with that 
i will find out a way to help him/her back with something else... 
(maybe i can produce some of you guys if you propose interesting 
patterns to me, you'll never know!!). later, if the song works out to 
be ok, i can transfer everything in pro tools or live, and replace the 
mp7 drums with some sampled grooves...


anyway thanks, after all i really hope i won't put the mp7 in a corner 
of the studio like i did with my dr202, my em1, my dx200...!!

i know, another way would be to go with the akai mpc 4000... but then 
you don't have the emu sounds...!!

later

don




On Sunday, January 26, 2003, at 04:58  PM, Gary Saville wrote:

> Hey Don,
>
> the MP-7 is not a sampler, so you cannot time stretch. It's a groove 
> box /
> rompler pattern sequencer. And a damn good one.


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