Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

The ability to use alternate tunings seems like a real plus with the 
XX-7s, especially with the World Expedition ROM installed... does 
anyone know how to actually use this feature? Where can you find 
tuning info that can be plugged in?

> The ability to use alternate tunings seems like a real plus with the 
> XX-7s, especially with the World Expedition ROM installed... does 
> anyone know how to actually use this feature? Where can you find 
> tuning info that can be plugged in?

     I assume you have glanced at page 110 and pages 190-191 of the manual?

     I use this feature all the time, and yes, I have the World Expedition ROM.  What specific
questions do you have about it?  Do you have scales that you'd like to experiment with?  I've been
working with microtonal scales in my music for several decades.

     In general, I stay away from the preset tuning tables that they include.  Some of them are
valid, others are bunk (to my ear and understanding).  I wish they'd list exactly how they set
them up the way they did and why.

     The best resolution you can get is within 1.5625 cents which is pretty good (plus or minus
.78125 cents).  I've heard that samples are not always accurately tuned in the first place. 
Though I've never taken my strobe tuner to the XX-7, it would be an interesting waste of a day...

     SVG




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Anyone have any experience or specific tips for using the User Tuning 
Tables?  How do you construct a tuning system?  It seems like a great 
option, and Emu is one of the only synth manufacturers that 
incorporates this ability.

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "smwither2002" <smwither2002@y...> wrote:
> Anyone have any experience or specific tips for using the
> User Tuning Tables?  How do you construct a tuning system?  It
> seems like a great option, and Emu is one of the only synth
> manufacturers that incorporates this ability.

Excellent question!!!  I haven't done anything with User Tuning 
Tables, but I am intriqued by the prospect of creatively pushing the 
conventional limits of the E-Mu P2K sound architecture.

If others have tips, I am interested, too.

E-Mu's P2K Tuning Table access is via System Uinversal System 
Exclusive Messages.  I have been calling these SUSEX messages purely 
for my own convenience--to differentiate them from sysex messages 
that use a manufacturer's particular sysex format.

Get the Proteus Family System Exclusive Manual v.2.2.  Page 3 spells 
out the sysex command messages for the Bulk Tuning Dump Request and 
the Bulk Tuning Dump Message.

Page 4 tells you how to tune single notes in any of the tuning maps. 
Note: You can embed several tuning table changes in one single-note 
message.

You will need a way to edit and transmit sysex messages to your E-
Mu.  I use an old version of Cakewalk software.

Note: You will also need to calculate a checksum to send valid tuning 
table maps (P. 3).  You do not need to calculate checksums to send 
single note tuning messages (P.4).  Knowing hex (hexidecimal) helps.  
In one (or more) of the E-Mu groups there are discussions of hex and 
midi.

If you send the table, you get to include a 16 character name for the 
table.

I reccomend doing a dump and studying it before creating your own.

Hope this helps.
--Dr. Steve

You can also access (and program) them from the 'Global' menu in your 
xx-7...

Stu

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> 
wrote:
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "smwither2002" <smwither2002@y...> 
wrote:
> > Anyone have any experience or specific tips for using the
> > User Tuning Tables?  How do you construct a tuning system?  It
> > seems like a great option, and Emu is one of the only synth
> > manufacturers that incorporates this ability.
> 
> Excellent question!!!  I haven't done anything with User Tuning 
> Tables, but I am intriqued by the prospect of creatively pushing 
the 
> conventional limits of the E-Mu P2K sound architecture.
> 
> If others have tips, I am interested, too.
> 
> E-Mu's P2K Tuning Table access is via System Uinversal System 
> Exclusive Messages.  I have been calling these SUSEX messages 
purely 
> for my own convenience--to differentiate them from sysex messages 
> that use a manufacturer's particular sysex format.
> 
> Get the Proteus Family System Exclusive Manual v.2.2.  Page 3 
spells 
> out the sysex command messages for the Bulk Tuning Dump Request and 
> the Bulk Tuning Dump Message.
> 
> Page 4 tells you how to tune single notes in any of the tuning 
maps. 
> Note: You can embed several tuning table changes in one single-note 
> message.
> 
> You will need a way to edit and transmit sysex messages to your E-
> Mu.  I use an old version of Cakewalk software.
> 
> Note: You will also need to calculate a checksum to send valid 
tuning 
> table maps (P. 3).  You do not need to calculate checksums to send 
> single note tuning messages (P.4).  Knowing hex (hexidecimal) 
helps.  
> In one (or more) of the E-Mu groups there are discussions of hex 
and 
> midi.
> 
> If you send the table, you get to include a 16 character name for 
the 
> table.
> 
> I reccomend doing a dump and studying it before creating your own.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> --Dr. Steve

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Max_LegRoom" <routerman@z...> wrote:
> You can also access (and program) them from the 'Global' menu in
> your xx-7...
> 
> Stu

EXCELLENT!!!!!
(As you may have guessed, I've been too steeped in a sysex project 
for a couple of days--painstaking, tedious stuff!  Can't wait to get 
back into making music.)    |8-[>