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that is, because a record is mastered, and the xl/mp sound is clean ;-)


 >The raw output of XL/MP sound good but
 > they
 > > still don't compare to a properly produced record.

I got to play a set on a 5000watt PA last night and just wanted to 
say that the XL sounded fantastic.   

It was crisp and warm, and had much more presence that the vinyl 
did.  The kits I was using where all presets and i was left with no 
desire to edit them after hearing that system.  I actualy knocked 
the clock off the wall in the hall we where in!!  LOL 

well that is all I wanted to say 

keep them beats booming.

Mike G.

You lucky b*****d 

I knew it was a winner LIVE.

-----Original Message-----
From: mikexl7 <curiousproductions@...>
[mailto:curiousproductions@...] 
Sent: 12 January 2003 21:38
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [xl7] a good night


I got to play a set on a 5000watt PA last night and just wanted to 
say that the XL sounded fantastic.   

It was crisp and warm, and had much more presence that the vinyl 
did.  The kits I was using where all presets and i was left with no 
desire to edit them after hearing that system.  I actualy knocked 
the clock off the wall in the hall we where in!!  LOL 

well that is all I wanted to say 

keep them beats booming.

Mike G.


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--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "mikexl7 <curiousproductions@r...>" 
<curiousproductions@r...> wrote:
> I got to play a set on a 5000watt PA last night and just wanted to 
> say that the XL sounded fantastic.   
> 
> It was crisp and warm, and had much more presence that the vinyl 
> did.  The kits I was using where all presets and i was left with no 
> desire to edit them after hearing that system.  I actualy knocked 
> the clock off the wall in the hall we where in!!  LOL 
> 
> well that is all I wanted to say 
> 
> keep them beats booming.
> 
> Mike G.


Something must have been wrong with the tables then, either that or 
the PA had more power.  The raw output of XL/MP sound good but they 
still don't compare to a properly produced record.

The tables where mine and they where working fine.  The levles where 
also ajusted by me all night so i know that they where about the 
same the night through.

Any way it may bave been the behringinger Tube composer compresor i 
use.  The mains of the xl are also where the recording starts all 
that you put beetween it and what ever records it is not likley 
going to make it cleaner or have more punch.  i use a rack of 
outboard gear to keep it nice and smooth but mostly it is just some 
fx a tube composer side chained with a ultracurve pro and that is it 
and it sounded crisp and clear i tell ya.  

Any way dont want to get all pissy about it, it sounded great.

Mike G.

> 
> 
> Something must have been wrong with the tables then, either that 
or 
> the PA had more power.  The raw output of XL/MP sound good but 
they 
> still don't compare to a properly produced record.

I played on a system last night too...   Only 2k watts, but still...   The
MP-7 Sounds GREAT with nice subharmonic bass...  The bass's are punchy, the
drums are tight, and the mix needs very little eq to sound good. . .


----- Original Message -----
From: <curiousproductions@...>
To: <xl7@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 10:44 PM
Subject: [xl7] Re: a good night


> The tables where mine and they where working fine.  The levles where
> also ajusted by me all night so i know that they where about the
> same the night through.
>
> Any way it may bave been the behringinger Tube composer compresor i
> use.  The mains of the xl are also where the recording starts all
> that you put beetween it and what ever records it is not likley
> going to make it cleaner or have more punch.  i use a rack of
> outboard gear to keep it nice and smooth but mostly it is just some
> fx a tube composer side chained with a ultracurve pro and that is it
> and it sounded crisp and clear i tell ya.
>
> Any way dont want to get all pissy about it, it sounded great.
>
> Mike G.
>
> >
> >
> > Something must have been wrong with the tables then, either that
> or
> > the PA had more power.  The raw output of XL/MP sound good but
> they
> > still don't compare to a properly produced record.
>
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Sorry if I offended.  I do have some records that when comparing
the MP7 to it stacks up pretty well overall soundwise.  But then
compare it to something like a Timo Mass record and the MP7 wont 
compete.  But I agree overall it has a nice low end and crisp top end 
for an all in one unit.  


> fx a tube composer side chained with a ultracurve pro and that is 
it 
> and it sounded crisp and clear i tell ya.  
> 
> Any way dont want to get all pissy about it, it sounded great.
> 
> Mike G.
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Something must have been wrong with the tables then, either that 
> or 
> > the PA had more power.  The raw output of XL/MP sound good but 
> they 
> > still don't compare to a properly produced record.

I didn't catch the start of this thread, but if the question is what sounds 
better, a record or a live synth? The answer is a live synth any day of the 
week. Production is another story, but as far as ear candy goes, any one of 
my synths will sound better in my room through my studio speakers than any 
CD I can play.

Ravi






>From: "jesse_medway <medway808@...>" <medway808@...>
>Reply-To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
>To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [xl7] Re: a good night
>Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 06:33:20 -0000
>
>
>I'm not getting pissy, just realistic.  I'm glad it sounded great.
>But to say that the mp7 sounds better than a record...  Unless its a
>really poorly engineered record it won't.
>
>Don't tell me that a Timo Mass record is going to sound worse than an
>MP7 through a Berhinger comp, thats crazy.
>
>Jesse
>
>
>
>
>
>it
> > and it sounded crisp and clear i tell ya.
> >
> > Any way dont want to get all pissy about it, it sounded great.
> >
> > Mike G.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Something must have been wrong with the tables then, either that
> > or
> > > the PA had more power.  The raw output of XL/MP sound good but
> > they
> > > still don't compare to a properly produced record.
>


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comparing phono levels to line levels is crazy in any aspect.  But generally
tables produce sub bass freq. feedback.  On some (poorly setup) systems this
turns into pure mud.....

The xx-7 has no feedback problem :)
----- Original Message -----
From: <medway808@...>
To: <xl7@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 12:33 AM
Subject: [xl7] Re: a good night


>
> I'm not getting pissy, just realistic.  I'm glad it sounded great.
> But to say that the mp7 sounds better than a record...  Unless its a
> really poorly engineered record it won't.
>
> Don't tell me that a Timo Mass record is going to sound worse than an
> MP7 through a Berhinger comp, thats crazy.
>
> Jesse
>
>
>
>
>
> it
> > and it sounded crisp and clear i tell ya.
> >
> > Any way dont want to get all pissy about it, it sounded great.
> >
> > Mike G.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Something must have been wrong with the tables then, either that
> > or
> > > the PA had more power.  The raw output of XL/MP sound good but
> > they
> > > still don't compare to a properly produced record.
>
>
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What is good sound?

Seeing as how records are a pure reproduction of sound waves and digital is
just dots along those waves, i would personally say that vinyl is generally
better.  However, most music these days is produced with digital sources.
Records have a tendency to sound "warmer" than most cd's, that's going back
to sub bass feedback...  And of course as Ravi points out, environment is
key... :)


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ravi Sharma" <noision1@...>
To: <xl7@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 12:51 AM
Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: a good night


> I didn't catch the start of this thread, but if the question is what
sounds
> better, a record or a live synth? The answer is a live synth any day of
the
> week. Production is another story, but as far as ear candy goes, any one
of
> my synths will sound better in my room through my studio speakers than any
> CD I can play.
>
> Ravi
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "jesse_medway <medway808@...>" <medway808@...>
> >Reply-To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> >To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [xl7] Re: a good night
> >Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 06:33:20 -0000
> >
> >
> >I'm not getting pissy, just realistic.  I'm glad it sounded great.
> >But to say that the mp7 sounds better than a record...  Unless its a
> >really poorly engineered record it won't.
> >
> >Don't tell me that a Timo Mass record is going to sound worse than an
> >MP7 through a Berhinger comp, thats crazy.
> >
> >Jesse
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >it
> > > and it sounded crisp and clear i tell ya.
> > >
> > > Any way dont want to get all pissy about it, it sounded great.
> > >
> > > Mike G.
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Something must have been wrong with the tables then, either that
> > > or
> > > > the PA had more power.  The raw output of XL/MP sound good but
> > > they
> > > > still don't compare to a properly produced record.
> >
>
>
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--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Sharma" <noision1@h...> wrote:
> I didn't catch the start of this thread, but if the question is 
what sounds 
> better, a record or a live synth? The answer is a live synth any 
day of the 
> week. Production is another story, but as far as ear candy goes, 
any one of 
> my synths will sound better in my room through my studio speakers 
than any 
> CD I can play.
> 
> Ravi


I guess I was refering to production then.  A synth in your room 
might now a little more upfront and raw.  But a record is going to 
sound tighter overall.  Depends on what you are comparing though and 
what you mean by "better.

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "David DeciBel" <spec@s...> wrote:
> What is good sound?
> 
> Seeing as how records are a pure reproduction of sound waves and 
digital is
> just dots along those waves, i would personally say that vinyl is 
generally
> better.  However, most music these days is produced with digital 
sources.
> Records have a tendency to sound "warmer" than most cd's, that's 
going back
> to sub bass feedback...  And of course as Ravi points out, 
environment is
> key... :)

Yes records do sound warmer.  I know when I play CD's out they never 
have the same fullness as vinyl.

That being said the Emu stuff does seem pretty warm though.

I just think that a properly mixed track, with different 
compression,eq effects etc.. is going to sound better than just 
processing the limited outs of an MP7/XL7.

But in a live situation with a big system you can get away with more 
and I'm sure the Command Stations sound fine.  I just wound't expect 
them to sound *better* than records.

Being relatively not technical surely the the only way to tell is by
making a like
for like comparison, other things need to be taken into consideration
can you produce your own live beats with vinyl ?
Can we call the xl7 an instrument or is it just another sound production
tool ?

Will future musicians be using this type of portable equipment to
perform live shows ?

I guess its horses for courses but for me nothing beats someone doing a
live performance.

Cheers

Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: a9870007 [mailto:a9870007@...] 
Sent: 13 March 2001 08:44
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: a good night


that is, because a record is mastered, and the xl/mp sound is clean ;-)


 >The raw output of XL/MP sound good but
 > they
 > > still don't compare to a properly produced record.





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Always fun init?   The only problem I have when using my XL-7 live, is 
that it goes TOO low sometimes!  You get it on a good system, and then you 
can hear (well feel) all those subsonics that you didn't hear in the 
studio.  :)

rEalm






I got to play a set on a 5000watt PA last night and just wanted to 
say that the XL sounded fantastic. 

It was crisp and warm, and had much more presence that the vinyl 
did.  The kits I was using where all presets and i was left with no 
desire to edit them after hearing that system.  I actualy knocked 
the clock off the wall in the hall we where in!!  LOL 

well that is all I wanted to say 

keep them beats booming.

Mike G.


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Hmm, I'm going to disagree slightly.  I use my XL-7 with my tables all the 
time (synced via a Red Sound Microsync) and they sound way different! 
Mostly it's just the fact that the XL-7 hasn't gone through many layers of 
compression like the tune on vinyl has, so it sounds "bigger" (and boomier 
unfortunately) if you turn it up to compete with the levels of the tables. 
 I personally plan on getting a good EQ and compressor to sort this out in 
the future, make them sound more 'seemless' when going from one to the 
other.  As it stands now, you can always hear the difference...

Props to the mc909 for adding the 3 band compressor to address to very 
issue.

rEalm





Something must have been wrong with the tables then, either that or 
the PA had more power.  The raw output of XL/MP sound good but they 
still don't compare to a properly produced record.


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Well...if you actually like his newer stuff... ???  :)

rEalm







Don't tell me that a Timo Mass record is going to sound worse than an 
MP7 through a Berhinger comp, thats crazy.

Jesse





it 
> and it sounded crisp and clear i tell ya. 
> 
> Any way dont want to get all pissy about it, it sounded great.
> 
> Mike G.
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Something must have been wrong with the tables then, either that 
> or 
> > the PA had more power.  The raw output of XL/MP sound good but 
> they 
> > still don't compare to a properly produced record.


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Hello,
I have been dying to ask about beat-matching using an xl-7 and decks. I sold my 1200s in order to pay for the xl-7 (I know, how could I? They were old but mint and I got top dollar on eBay). Don't worry I didn't sell the vinyl.
Can you effectively match the beat of the record using that Red Sound Microsync device you mentioned with your xx-7? I found that a Numark beatkeeper, which rounds to the nearest whole beat per minute, is virtually useless for beatmatching two records. How does the xx-7 manage the sync if the Red Sound carries a decimal point? Thanks a bunch for your thoughts on this!!!!  
 erik_magrini@... wrote:Hmm, I'm going to disagree slightly.  I use my XL-7 with my tables all the 
time (synced via a Red Sound Microsync) and they sound way different! 
Mostly it's just the fact that the XL-7 hasn't gone through many layers of 
compression like the tune on vinyl has, so it sounds "bigger" (and boomier 
unfortunately) if you turn it up to compete with the levels of the tables. 
I personally plan on getting a good EQ and compressor to sort this out in 
the future, make them sound more 'seemless' when going from one to the 
other.  As it stands now, you can always hear the difference...

Props to the mc909 for adding the 3 band compressor to address to very 
issue.

rEalm





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the PA had more power.  The raw output of XL/MP sound good but they 
still don't compare to a properly produced record.


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--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, a9870007 <a9870007@u...> wrote:
> that is, because a record is mastered, and the xl/mp sound is 
clean ;-)
> 
> 
>  >The raw output of XL/MP sound good but
>  > they
>  > > still don't compare to a properly produced record.

No it is much more than that.  Mastering is the last step and should 
only be a sublte thing.  The main difference is the control you have 
with a proper console/effects etc.

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> Mostly it's just the fact that the XL-7 hasn't gone through many 
layers of 
> compression like the tune on vinyl has, so it sounds "bigger" (and 
boomier 
> unfortunately) if you turn it up to compete with the levels of the 
tables. 


Exactly, bigger in the sense that its boomier but to me not nearly as 
good sounding as a properly compressed track.

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> Well...if you actually like his newer stuff... ???  :)
> 
> rEalm
> 


A lot of his stuff I dont care for.  But for production values
I resepct his engineer, Martin a lot.  That Shifter track on his last 
album is very tight.

Most BPM counters don't work very well, especially if you are playing breaks
or jungle.. then they are totaly useless.  What I find works ok when I'm
jamming in my studio, is to start the mp-7 as close as I can to the record
tempo in my headphones, then slowly adjust the tempo on the 12'z. once there
matched, you can bring in the MP-7, and make the fine adjustments on the
decks... So basicly, use the tap bpm to get a close the two tempo's close,
and then do the rest with the 12'z platter mixing in both directions..


Gary.
saville@...

> Hello,
> I have been dying to ask about beat-matching using an xl-7 and decks. I
sold my 1200s in order to pay for the xl-7 (I know, how could I? They were
old but mint and I got top dollar on eBay). Don't worry I didn't sell the
vinyl.
> Can you effectively match the beat of the record using that Red Sound
Microsync device you mentioned with your xx-7? I found that a Numark
beatkeeper, which rounds to the nearest whole beat per minute, is virtually
useless for beatmatching two records. How does the xx-7 manage the sync if
the Red Sound carries a decimal point? Thanks a bunch for your thoughts on
this!!!!

I wish someone made a small midi pitch slider like the 1200's pitch slider
where you could set the tempo and then slide it +/- 8 or 10% - much like the
MC-909/307 control but without all the stuff to the left of it =).


----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Saville" <ocylate@...>
To: <xl7@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: [xl7] Beat matching


> Most BPM counters don't work very well, especially if you are playing
breaks
> or jungle.. then they are totaly useless.  What I find works ok when I'm
> jamming in my studio, is to start the mp-7 as close as I can to the record
> tempo in my headphones, then slowly adjust the tempo on the 12'z. once
there
> matched, you can bring in the MP-7, and make the fine adjustments on the
> decks... So basicly, use the tap bpm to get a close the two tempo's close,
> and then do the rest with the 12'z platter mixing in both directions..
>
>
> Gary.
> saville@...
>
> > Hello,
> > I have been dying to ask about beat-matching using an xl-7 and decks. I
> sold my 1200s in order to pay for the xl-7 (I know, how could I? They were
> old but mint and I got top dollar on eBay). Don't worry I didn't sell the
> vinyl.
> > Can you effectively match the beat of the record using that Red Sound
> Microsync device you mentioned with your xx-7? I found that a Numark
> beatkeeper, which rounds to the nearest whole beat per minute, is
virtually
> useless for beatmatching two records. How does the xx-7 manage the sync if
> the Red Sound carries a decimal point? Thanks a bunch for your thoughts on
> this!!!!
>
>
>
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I have two Cdj 1000s and a Pioneer Djm 600 mixier and they all match beats
pretty well. the CDJ beatkeepers are pretty acurate with the digital feed.  I
really need to learn more about the xl7. I have mainly been just working on my
mixing. I play the Didgeridoo too it can lay some pretty dope drone and bass
lines.  
peace
TripleBypass

It has been a while since I have wrote back, I plan to do some more so I can
learn more about the xl7.

Gary Saville <ocylate@...> wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> 
> Most BPM counters don't work very well, especially if you are playing
breaks
> or jungle.. then they are totaly useless.  What I find works ok when
I'm
> jamming in my studio, is to start the mp-7 as close as I can to the record
> tempo in my headphones, then slowly adjust the tempo on the 12'z. once
there
> matched, you can bring in the MP-7, and make the fine adjustments on the
> decks... So basicly, use the tap bpm to get a close the two tempo's close,
> and then do the rest with the 12'z platter mixing in both directions..
> 
> 
> Gary.
> saville@...
> 
> > Hello,
> > I have been dying to ask about beat-matching using an xl-7 and decks.
I
> sold my 1200s in order to pay for the xl-7 (I know, how could I? They were
> old but mint and I got top dollar on eBay). Don't worry I didn't sell the
> vinyl.
> > Can you effectively match the beat of the record using that Red Sound
> Microsync device you mentioned with your xx-7? I found that a Numark
> beatkeeper, which rounds to the nearest whole beat per minute, is
virtually
> useless for beatmatching two records. How does the xx-7 manage the sync if
> the Red Sound carries a decimal point? Thanks a bunch for your thoughts on
> this!!!!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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well i was not expecting a long thread on that post but i may as 
well reply to it.

After reading all the posts this is what i was left thinking.

Good production as pertaining to vinyl and all music depends on the 
content.  The music i produce does not require a ton of compresion.
I use some compresion on the mids and more on the highs to smooth 
things out and keep them from hurting the head. 

I could go on for hours on this topic of mastering but this is just 
to say that some of my fave recordings dont use a single fx send.  
Take a listen to some dan bell and the like.  The minimal synth 
stuff is MINIMAL and that is the way it sounds best.  As much 
presence as possable.

I never said that the xl7+behringer tube composer+ultracureve pro 
combo sounded better i said that it had more presence.

I have engineered tracks that have been pressed by lables like 
Tresor siesmic and restructured. There is not alot of compression on 
any of the tracks that i have put on vinyl.  Most of my friends that 
produce tracks that get pressed dont put alot of compression on 
there tracks either.  Good fx and good mix is the key in my book. 
and good gates.  and and and  LOL.

take care ya all

Mike G

that is my two cents

> produce tracks that get pressed dont put alot of compression on 
> there tracks either.  Good fx and good mix is the key in my book. 
> and good gates.  and and and  LOL.


Why are you guys so into gates?  I've used them for old school
gated string/vox effect back in the date but dont use them much now.

Compression on the otherhand, I couldn't live with out it.

I'm suprised stuff on Tresor wouldnt be compressed considering it 
fairly techno, which is known for being very compressed.

You should try the Red Sound stuff then, work's fine with breaks and 
jungle, better than with my house or trance records sometimes!  Go 
figure...

rEalm




Most BPM counters don't work very well, especially if you are playing 
breaks
or jungle.. then they are totaly useless. 







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LOL, I like the "without all the stuff to the left of it" remark.   Why 
not just use the data wheel?  Same thing, more or less...

rEalm





I wish someone made a small midi pitch slider like the 1200's pitch slider
where you could set the tempo and then slide it +/- 8 or 10% - much like 
the
MC-909/307 control but without all the stuff to the left of it =).


----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Saville" <ocylate@...>
To: <xl7@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: [xl7] Beat matching


> Most BPM counters don't work very well, especially if you are playing
breaks
> or jungle.. then they are totaly useless.  What I find works ok when I'm
> jamming in my studio, is to start the mp-7 as close as I can to the 
record
> tempo in my headphones, then slowly adjust the tempo on the 12'z. once
there
> matched, you can bring in the MP-7, and make the fine adjustments on the
> decks... So basicly, use the tap bpm to get a close the two tempo's 
close,
> and then do the rest with the 12'z platter mixing in both directions..
>
>
> Gary.
> saville@...
>
> > Hello,
> > I have been dying to ask about beat-matching using an xl-7 and decks. 
I
> sold my 1200s in order to pay for the xl-7 (I know, how could I? They 
were
> old but mint and I got top dollar on eBay). Don't worry I didn't sell 
the
> vinyl.
> > Can you effectively match the beat of the record using that Red Sound
> Microsync device you mentioned with your xx-7? I found that a Numark
> beatkeeper, which rounds to the nearest whole beat per minute, is
virtually
> useless for beatmatching two records. How does the xx-7 manage the sync 
if
> the Red Sound carries a decimal point? Thanks a bunch for your thoughts 
on
> this!!!!
>
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My first thought too.   I've never heard a Tresor track that wasn't 
compressed to shit (and that doesn't mean it sounds bad) as is most 
techno, trance, house, etc.  Dance music in general is known to be heavily 
limited in that regards.

rEalm




I'm suprised stuff on Tresor wouldnt be compressed considering it 
fairly techno, which is known for being very compressed.


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