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Q for the producers...

When writing a good drum break (ala drum'n'bass), do you use stereo 
or mono drum samples?  I've been noticing alot of the stuff i listen 
to might have stereo snare samples, but mono bassdrum, hihats and 
etc.  IS there a perferred method?

sapo

That would be more likely a mono snare processed with some stereo
effects (computer edited, re-sampled or effected at the mix stage). 
A reverb unit comes to mind, and it's something you *usually* don't want
on bass and kick.

Stereo samples (like in the Beat Garden ROM) are more the exception than
the norm in synths, even lately, IMHO. It's just a trick to have more
and maybe also better effects than those onboard, and a workaround to
the lack of real drumkits in the case of E-MU synths.

"joesapo " wrote:
> I've been noticing alot of the stuff i listen to might have stereo 
> snare samples, but mono bassdrum, hihats and etc.
-- 
Sebastien,
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For large values of 1, 1 equals 2, for small values of 2.

I agree with "->nobody<-".  If I'm writing the parts mono is fine, because most of the time the stereo samples are nothing more than mono sounds with stereo effects.  You can control that better after the fact through a mixing console or a DAW if you have that ability.

As far as the mixes you are referring to, yeah most of the time the snare is effected, followed by cymbals or toms/hits.  You can take the snare out to a stereo verb, and/or mult/send a channel of it over to a compressor / lo-fi, amp farm, etc.  Send a little of the cymbals, snare, toms out to a verb to place them in a 'room' together so that it's not to noticable but warmer.  A little flange/chorus on the cymbals is sometimes cool.

The possibilities are endless and I could go on for days, but bottom line I beleive there are no 'rules'.  Do whatever works/sounds best for you.

jho

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> From: "->Nobody<-" <poumtschak@...>
> Date: 2002/12/28 Sat PM 05:53:05 EST
> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [xl7] drum samples:stereo or mono?
> 
> That would be more likely a mono snare processed with some stereo
> effects (computer edited, re-sampled or effected at the mix stage). 
> A reverb unit comes to mind, and it's something you *usually* don't want
> on bass and kick.
> 
> Stereo samples (like in the Beat Garden ROM) are more the exception than
> the norm in synths, even lately, IMHO. It's just a trick to have more
> and maybe also better effects than those onboard, and a workaround to
> the lack of real drumkits in the case of E-MU synths.
> 
> "joesapo " wrote:
> > I've been noticing alot of the stuff i listen to might have stereo 
> > snare samples, but mono bassdrum, hihats and etc.
> -- 
> Sebastien,
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> For large values of 1, 1 equals 2, for small values of 2.
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I prefer stereo samples, at then you have the option of making them mono!

rEalm





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Q for the producers...

When writing a good drum break (ala drum'n'bass), do you use stereo 
or mono drum samples?  I've been noticing alot of the stuff i listen 
to might have stereo snare samples, but mono bassdrum, hihats and 
etc.  IS there a perferred method?

sapo


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I pretty much always use mono samples and then use a good
stereo room verb (lexicon pcm80) to widen them out a little.
a good trick for stereo is to just have two sounds, like two
sanres and pan them.  then you can alter the velocity of the
hits so its a little dynamic.  anyways too much stereo stuff
will cloud the imaging.  a little is good but not too much...



--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> I prefer stereo samples, at then you have the option of making them 
mono!
> 
> rEalm
> Q for the producers...
> 
> When writing a good drum break (ala drum'n'bass), do you use stereo 
> or mono drum samples?  I've been noticing alot of the stuff i 
listen 

> to might have stereo snare samples, but mono bassdrum, hihats and 
> etc.  IS there a perferred method?
> 
> sapo
>

I have the "Beat Garden" rom which contains special "stereo" drum 
presets, but those have way too much stereo width, so instead I 
choose to use the mono drums. I prefer mono drum samples in front of 
stereo, but then of course I use lots of panning and reverb 'n stuff, 
which of course makes it sound a bit more "stereo'ish" ...

check out my music @ www.nifflas.com - Evening Notes is dnb.

//Nifflas

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "jesse_medway <medway808@h...>" 
<medway808@h...> wrote:
> 
> I pretty much always use mono samples and then use a good
> stereo room verb (lexicon pcm80) to widen them out a little.
> a good trick for stereo is to just have two sounds, like two
> sanres and pan them.  then you can alter the velocity of the
> hits so its a little dynamic.  anyways too much stereo stuff
> will cloud the imaging.  a little is good but not too much...
> 
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> > I prefer stereo samples, at then you have the option of making 
them 
> mono!
> > 
> > rEalm
> > Q for the producers...
> > 
> > When writing a good drum break (ala drum'n'bass), do you use 
stereo 

> > or mono drum samples?  I've been noticing alot of the stuff i 
> listen 
> > to might have stereo snare samples, but mono bassdrum, hihats and 
> > etc.  IS there a perferred method?
> > 
> > sapo
> >