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Using the XL-7 with Protools (or any DAW)

2002-12-23 by iproduce@bellsouth.net

I'm trying to decide what the best way to bring my XL-7 tracks into Pro Tools would be.  I understand how to route the outputs; that's not the issue.  But getting up to 16 tracks on the XL all out thru 6 little outputs is a little nerve racking.

Thus far I've tried:
-using midi start/stop to make multiple passes thru the mains (so I can enjoy the fx) onto stereo tracks into PT and selectively muting/unmuting various instruments.  The problem I am encountering is that the midi drift unglues the timing somewhat and is not consistent every time.
-Sending all the drums to the Stereo Mains for the effects, then using the 
other four outputs and panning hard left/hard right to get each instrument (or 
as much separation as 4 channels allows me) on it's own track in PT.  The drag here is all the drums are now lumped together.

I was going to try:
-using midi start/stop, and recording a long string of audio for each pattern 
while I mute/unmute the various instruments (so no restarting - I figure that 
will keep the timing tighter), then I would cut/paste them back together in 
PT.  This seems very time consuming tho.
-??

What are you folks that record into PT or any other DAW do? Any help would be 
greatly appreciated.

jho

Re: [xl7] Using the XL-7 with Protools (or any DAW)

2002-12-23 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

Yeah, this has been a real pain in my ass lately too.  I've got some XL-7 
only tunes (hmmm, what could those be for?) that I want to spruce up in SX 
after the contest is over.  Normally I just record the XL-7 parts into SX 
one track at a time, though in the past this is driven from midi sequences 
created there.  However, there's no easy way to do this in the XX-7's Song 
Mode, as you need to create 16 new songs in order to only have 1 track 
playing!  To clarify, everytime I want to record a seperate track into SX, 
I need to create a new song from my base patterns that has only that one 
track unmuted through out, because when the patterns switch, there's no 
way to keep the previous pattern's mute settings.

Time consuming to say the least!

For your situtaion though, I would think you would just have to do it in 
multiple passes too.

rEalm




What are you folks that record into PT or any other DAW do? Any help would 
be 
greatly appreciated.

jho



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Re: [xl7] Using the XL-7 with Protools (or any DAW)

2002-12-23 by iproduce@bellsouth.net

Realm,
Thanks for the response.  When I do multiple passes I get timing issues...a little drift here and there.

What about dumping the midi song out to Pro Tools, then using PT to trigger the XL just as a regular midi device / not in song or sync mode?  Then I could bounce audio down stereo at a time and everything will be locked to the grid in PT ?

Time consuming too...just thinking.  You having any timing issues when doing multiple passes?

jho

Re: Using the XL-7 with Protools (or any DAW)

2002-12-23 by realm619 <erik_magrini@Baxter.com>

What about dumping the midi song out to Pro Tools, then using PT to 
trigger the XL just as a regular midi device / not in song or sync 
mode?  Then I could bounce audio down stereo at a time and everything 
will be locked to the grid in PT ?

>>>Are you using Song mode, or Pattern mode initially?  If it was 
just pattern mode, I think this would be fine, that's how I used to 
do it in Cubase VST.  I'd import the pattern and arrange it into the 
song in VST.  If it's Song Mode you're using, then there might be 
issues.  I don't think that the midi Song file contains the midi info 
that's in your Patterns, just the data on the Song track and 
references to Patterns and their mute settings at that step in the 
Song.  Not too sure about this, but when I use E-Loader to grab my 
song files it's a very small file (smaller than even 1 Pattern), so I 
can't imagine it contains my Pattern data too. <<<

Time consuming too...just thinking.  You having any timing issues 
when doing multiple passes?

>>>I'm using Cubase SX now, and the only problem I have with it, is 
that there's some outstanding issues with it's Midi Clock.  So yeah, 
I have some drift too, but it's SX's fault, not the XL-7's.  When I 
was using the VST version, it was locked up super tight.  Steinberg's 
aware of this issue though, so hopefully I'll get a fix soon :)  I 
used to use E-loader to get my pattern data, import it into VST, and 
then do my song arranging there.  I could just mute the miditracks I 
did't want to record in that pass, and it worked great.

Not too sure how I'm going to achieve this now.  I would just grab 
all of the pattern data for my song and butt them up end to end to 
make one long song file out of all of the smaller pattern ones.  
However, I also am changing effects and Presets between different 
Patterns, so this probably won't work too well now.  I think (for me 
at least), the only option is to create 16 seperate songs for each XL-
7 song, so that I can set the track mutes to just one channel for the 
whole length.  Yeah, awkward at best!  

If there was a way to specify whether or not Songs contained the 
Pattern info too while uploading via E-Loader (hint hint Scott), then 
this would all be moot. <<<

rEalm

Re: [xl7] Using the XL-7 with Protools (or any DAW)

2002-12-23 by drK

On 12/23/02 12:08 PM, "iproduce@..." <iproduce@...>
wrote:

> Realm,
> Thanks for the response.  When I do multiple passes I get timing issues...a
> little drift here and there.
> 
> What about dumping the midi song out to Pro Tools, then using PT to trigger
> the XL just as a regular midi device / not in song or sync mode?  Then I could
> bounce audio down stereo at a time and everything will be locked to the grid
> in PT ?
> 
> Time consuming too...just thinking.  You having any timing issues when doing
> multiple passes?
> 
> jho
> 
> 

rEalm and jho,

Here's how I would proceed.

My first approach would be to record the MIDI out of the XX-7 into the host
DAW (Cubase SX, ProTools, etc) with the DAW providing the master MIDI
clocking to the XX-7 and the DAW recording in multi-channel mode.  This
would then let you use the DAW later to drive the XX-7 as a sound module and
use muting of each MIDI track to control what is recorded when.

But if for some reason the MIDI recording approach does not work well then
you still have a choice of using the XX-7's sequencer to control the sound
module and do multi-tracking of audio, either using the XX-7's six separate
outs or just doing it a stereo pair at a time.

Since there is no easy way of to solo a single track in song mode then I
would suggest an alternative - disabling the actual XX-7 synthesizer
channels associated with a track.  This could be one or more if you do heavy
sound layering.

Probably the easiest way to do this is to use the MIDI Enable feature for
each channel.  In EDIT-MIDI scroll until you get to the MIDI ENABLE submenu
and simply find each of the channels you are using (01A-16B).  Turn those
used one's off and turn back on the one (or ones) you need to record for
each pass.

These act like system-wide mutes on the synth module and are very handy for
quickly turning things on or off.

just a suggestion.

drk

www.delora.com/music
www.mp3.com/zdrk
drk.iuma.com

Re: [xl7] Using the XL-7 with Protools (or any DAW)

2002-12-23 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

My first approach would be to record the MIDI out of the XX-7 into the 
host DAW (Cubase SX, ProTools, etc) with the DAW providing the master MIDI 
clocking to the XX-7 and the DAW recording in multi-channel mode. 

>>>Two issues (at least in my case).  First, the Midi clock out of SX is 
crap for my use, too sloppy to be any good.  Second this method doesn't 
take into account the changing of effect types in the XX-7, which are 
critical to the song.  Good idea though. <<<

Since there is no easy way of to solo a single track in song mode then 
Iwould suggest an alternative - disabling the  actual XX-7 synthesizer 
channels associated with a track.  In EDIT-MIDI scroll until you get to 
the MIDI ENABLE submenu and simply find each of the channels you are using 
(01A-16B).  Turn those used one's off and turn back on the one (or ones) 
you need to record for each pass.

>>>Doh, virtual handshake for you! :) Excellent solution! <<<

rEalm









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Re: Re: [xl7] Using the XL-7 with Protools (or any DAW)

2002-12-27 by iproduce@bellsouth.net

Drk,

Thanks for the suggestions.  The problem is that the XL7 is not staying midi sync'd up well to PT.  I like your idea of turning off the midi channels, so I was going to make 16 passes.  By the fourth or fifth pass, tho, there was a noticible drift happening despite my attempts to make sure everything was set to start properly.  Any other suggestions?  Is anyone having similar midi sync / timing issues?  I love the box but can't use it if it won't sync to Protools.  My MPC2000XL has always synced right up no problem.

Another note...anyone elses left channel seem to have more floor noise than the right?  By the time I make 16 passes (if i could) the buildup of that noise will be pretty bad.

Finally, I was going to try and dump the patterns out to midi file via the E-loader and then load them into PT (thinking I'd replay the box from pt as a midi device).  I couldn't get E-loader to see my XL7...I have a mac Ti powerbook running OS9, with a MOTU fastlane.  Everything seems to be connected properly...is there any trick or secret?  Anyone know when USB direct connect to the box will be supported on the Mac?

Sorry for all the questions, thanks for any help.

jho
> 
On 12/23/02> From: drK <drk@...>

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> Date: 2002/12/23 Mon PM 02:53:01 EST
> To: "xl7@yahoogroups.com" <xl7@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [xl7] Using the XL-7 with Protools (or any DAW)
> 
>  12:08 PM, "iproduce@..." <iproduce@...>
> wrote:
> 
>
> 
> rEalm and jho,
> 
> Here's how I would proceed.
> 
> My first approach would be to record the MIDI out of the XX-7 into the host
> DAW (Cubase SX, ProTools, etc) with the DAW providing the master MIDI
> clocking to the XX-7 and the DAW recording in multi-channel mode.  This
> would then let you use the DAW later to drive the XX-7 as a sound module and
> use muting of each MIDI track to control what is recorded when.
> 
> But if for some reason the MIDI recording approach does not work well then
> you still have a choice of using the XX-7's sequencer to control the sound
> module and do multi-tracking of audio, either using the XX-7's six separate
> outs or just doing it a stereo pair at a time.
> 
> Since there is no easy way of to solo a single track in song mode then I
> would suggest an alternative - disabling the actual XX-7 synthesizer
> channels associated with a track.  This could be one or more if you do heavy
> sound layering.
> 
> Probably the easiest way to do this is to use the MIDI Enable feature for
> each channel.  In EDIT-MIDI scroll until you get to the MIDI ENABLE submenu
> and simply find each of the channels you are using (01A-16B).  Turn those
> used one's off and turn back on the one (or ones) you need to record for
> each pass.
> 
> These act like system-wide mutes on the synth module and are very handy for
> quickly turning things on or off.
> 
> just a suggestion.
> 
> 
> drk
> 
> www.delora.com/music
> www.mp3.com/zdrk
> drk.iuma.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
>

Re: [xl7] Using the XL-7 with Protools (or any DAW)

2002-12-27 by gongvibe <edmann@paiste.com>

Make sure the the TEMPO page in the MIDI menu is set to "ext" 

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, <iproduce@b...> wrote:

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> Drk,
> 
> Thanks for the suggestions.  The problem is that the XL7 is not staying midi sync'd up well to PT.  I like your idea of turning off the midi channels, so I was going to make 16 passes.  By the fourth or fifth pass, tho, there was a noticible drift happening despite my attempts to make sure everything was set to start properly.  Any other suggestions?  Is anyone having similar midi sync / timing issues?  I love the box but can't use it if it won't sync to Protools.  My MPC2000XL has always synced right up no problem.
> 
> Another note...anyone elses left channel seem to have more floor noise than the right?  By the time I make 16 passes (if i could) the buildup of that noise will be pretty bad.
> 
> Finally, I was going to try and dump the patterns out to midi file via the E-loader and then load them into PT (thinking I'd replay the box from pt as a midi device).  I couldn't get E-loader to see my XL7...I have a mac Ti powerbook running OS9, with a MOTU fastlane.  Everything seems to be connected properly...is there any trick or secret?  Anyone know when USB direct connect to the box will be supported on the Mac?
> 
> Sorry for all the questions, thanks for any help.
> 
> jho
> > 
> On 12/23/02> From: drK <drk@d...>
> > Date: 2002/12/23 Mon PM 02:53:01 EST
> > To: "xl7@yahoogroups.com" <xl7@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [xl7] Using the XL-7 with Protools (or any DAW)
> > 
> >  12:08 PM, "iproduce@b..." <iproduce@b...>
> > wrote:
> > 
> >
> > 
> > rEalm and jho,
> > 
> > Here's how I would proceed.
> > 
> > My first approach would be to record the MIDI out of the XX-7 into the host
> > DAW (Cubase SX, ProTools, etc) with the DAW providing the master MIDI
> > clocking to the XX-7 and the DAW recording in multi-channel mode.  This
> > would then let you use the DAW later to drive the XX-7 as a sound module and
> > use muting of each MIDI track to control what is recorded when.
> > 
> > But if for some reason the MIDI recording approach does not work well then
> > you still have a choice of using the XX-7's sequencer to control the sound
> > module and do multi-tracking of audio, either using the XX-7's six separate
> > outs or just doing it a stereo pair at a time.
> > 
> > Since there is no easy way of to solo a single track in song mode then I
> > would suggest an alternative - disabling the actual XX-7 synthesizer
> > channels associated with a track.  This could be one or more if you do heavy
> > sound layering.
> > 
> > Probably the easiest way to do this is to use the MIDI Enable feature for
> > each channel.  In EDIT-MIDI scroll until you get to the MIDI ENABLE submenu
> > and simply find each of the channels you are using (01A-16B).  Turn those
> > used one's off and turn back on the one (or ones) you need to record for
> > each pass.
> > 
> > These act like system-wide mutes on the synth module and are very handy for
> > quickly turning things on or off.
> > 
> > just a suggestion.
> > 
> > 
> > drk
> > 
> > www.delora.com/music
> > www.mp3.com/zdrk
> > drk.iuma.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > 
> >  
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> >

Re: [xl7] Using the XL-7 with Protools (or any DAW)

2002-12-28 by iproduce@bellsouth.net

gongvibe,
That was totally it. Thanks a million. It threw me off because it said "0=midiclk" and there is no zero! I rolled it over to "ext" and it locked up perfectly, song position pointer worked great..everything.

So I had to make basically 16 sync'ed up passes thru Protools HD. I have to say the timing seems perfect or close enough...I can't notice any drift whatsoever now. But it was a pain to do and took almost 3 hours for a 4 minute song! It was so cumbersome and timeconsuming I'm wondering if I ever want to go thru that process again--seems it would be much easier to just trigger the XL from a computer sequencer cuz then you can easily mute tracks on the computer...but then you loose that quick-spontaneous asset of composing on the XL, which I like. I'd love anyone elses feedback using a similar XL / Daw and how you do it.

Anyway, here's what I had to do:

1. Turn off all other midi channels except the one you want to record (as described by drk, thanks!)
2. Change the outputs in global for that channel for EACH PATTERN to the outputs you want (i.e. thru the main L/R for effects etc). This was a time consuming part since the song had around 25-30 different patterns.
3. Save the pattern

What ended up happening is I somehow erased or changed the preset settings for each pattern so when the song played back, the presets on each track (that had a patch change mid-song) didn't change on any of the patterns that had sound changes!! Accept patch change was on...so don't know what I did.

Any suggestions for not duplicating what I did in the paragraph above, and for use in concert with a DAW would be further appreciated.

Thanks

jho

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From:  "gongvibe <edmann@p...>" <edmann@p...>
Date:  Fri Dec 27, 2002  8:50 am
Subject:  Re: [xl7] Using the XL-7 with Protools (or any DAW)

Make sure the the TEMPO page in the MIDI menu is set to "ext"

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, <iproduce@b...> wrote:
> Drk,
>
> Thanks for the suggestions. The problem is that the XL7 is not staying midi
sync'd up well to PT. I like your idea of turning off the midi channels, so I
was going to make 16 passes. By the fourth or fifth pass, tho, there was a
noticible drift happening despite my attempts to make sure everything was set
to start properly. Any other suggestions? Is anyone having similar midi sync
/ timing issues? I love the box but can't use it if it won't sync to Protools.
My MPC2000XL has always synced right up no problem.
>
> Another note...anyone elses left channel seem to have more floor noise than
the right? By the time I make 16 passes (if i could) the buildup of that noise
will be pretty bad.
>
> Finally, I was going to try and dump the patterns out to midi file via the
E-loader and then load them into PT (thinking I'd replay the box from pt as a
midi device). I couldn't get E-loader to see my XL7...I have a mac Ti
powerbook running OS9, with a MOTU fastlane. Everything seems to be connected
properly...is there any trick or secret? Anyone know when USB direct connect
to the box will be supported on the Mac?
>
> Sorry for all the questions, thanks for any help.
>
> jho
> >
> On 12/23/02> From: drK <drk@d...>
> > Date: 2002/12/23 Mon PM 02:53:01 EST
> > To: "xl7@yahoogroups.com" <xl7@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [xl7] Using the XL-7 with Protools (or any DAW)
> >
> > 12:08 PM, "iproduce@b..." <iproduce@b...>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > rEalm and jho,
> >
> > Here's how I would proceed.
> >
> > My first approach would be to record the MIDI out of the XX-7 into the host
> > DAW (Cubase SX, ProTools, etc) with the DAW providing the master MIDI
> > clocking to the XX-7 and the DAW recording in multi-channel mode. This
> > would then let you use the DAW later to drive the XX-7 as a sound module and
> > use muting of each MIDI track to control what is recorded when.
> >
> > But if for some reason the MIDI recording approach does not work well then
> > you still have a choice of using the XX-7's sequencer to control the sound
> > module and do multi-tracking of audio, either using the XX-7's six separate
> > outs or just doing it a stereo pair at a time.
> >
> > Since there is no easy way of to solo a single track in song mode then I
> > would suggest an alternative - disabling the actual XX-7 synthesizer
> > channels associated with a track. This could be one or more if you do heavy
> > sound layering.
> >
> > Probably the easiest way to do this is to use the MIDI Enable feature for
> > each channel. In EDIT-MIDI scroll until you get to the MIDI ENABLE submenu
> > and simply find each of the channels you are using (01A-16B). Turn those
> > used one's off and turn back on the one (or ones) you need to record for
> > each pass.
> >
> > These act like system-wide mutes on the synth module and are very handy for
> > quickly turning things on or off.
> >
> > just a suggestion.
> >
> >
> > drk
> >
> > www.delora.com/music
> > www.mp3.com/zdrk
> > drk.iuma.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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> >
> > 

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Re: Using the XL-7 with Protools (or any DAW)

2002-12-28 by gongvibe <edmann@paiste.com>

My pleasure jho - glad all is working well

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> gongvibe,
> That was totally it.  Thanks a million.  It threw me off because it said "0=midiclk" and there is no zero!  I rolled it over to "ext" and it locked up perfectly, song position pointer worked great..everything.
> 
> So I had to make basically 16 sync'ed up passes thru Protools HD.  I have to say the timing seems perfect or close enough...I can't notice any drift whatsoever now.  But it was a pain to do and took almost 3 hours for a 4 minute song!  It was so cumbersome and timeconsuming I'm wondering if I ever want to go thru that process again--seems it would be much easier to just trigger the XL from a computer sequencer cuz then you can easily mute tracks on the computer...but then you loose that quick-spontaneous asset of composing on the XL, which I like.  I'd love anyone elses feedback using a similar XL / Daw and how you do it.
> 
> Anyway, here's what I had to do:
> 
> 1. Turn off all other midi channels except the one you want to record (as described by drk, thanks!)
> 2. Change the outputs in global for that channel for EACH PATTERN to the outputs you want (i.e. thru the main L/R for effects etc).   This was a time consuming part since the song had around 25-30 different patterns.
> 3. Save the pattern
> 
> What ended up happening is I somehow erased or changed the preset settings for each pattern so when the song played back, the presets on each track (that had a patch change mid-song) didn't change on any of the patterns that had sound changes!!  Accept patch change was on...so don't know what I did.
> 
> Any suggestions for not duplicating what I did in the paragraph above, and for use in concert with a DAW would be further appreciated.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> jho
> 
> 
> 
> From:  "gongvibe <edmann@p...>" <edmann@p...>
> Date:  Fri Dec 27, 2002  8:50 am
> Subject:  Re: [xl7] Using the XL-7 with Protools (or any DAW)
> 
> Make sure the the TEMPO page in the MIDI menu is set to "ext"
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, <iproduce@b...> wrote:
> > Drk,
> >
> > Thanks for the suggestions. The problem is that the XL7 is not staying midi
> sync'd up well to PT. I like your idea of turning off the midi channels, so I
> was going to make 16 passes. By the fourth or fifth pass, tho, there was a
> noticible drift happening despite my attempts to make sure everything was set
> to start properly. Any other suggestions? Is anyone having similar midi sync
> / timing issues? I love the box but can't use it if it won't sync to Protools.
> My MPC2000XL has always synced right up no problem.
> >
> > Another note...anyone elses left channel seem to have more floor noise than
> the right? By the time I make 16 passes (if i could) the buildup of that noise
> will be pretty bad.
> >
> > Finally, I was going to try and dump the patterns out to midi file via the
> E-loader and then load them into PT (thinking I'd replay the box from pt as a
> midi device). I couldn't get E-loader to see my XL7...I have a mac Ti
> powerbook running OS9, with a MOTU fastlane. Everything seems to be connected
> properly...is there any trick or secret? Anyone know when USB direct connect
> to the box will be supported on the Mac?
> >
> > Sorry for all the questions, thanks for any help.
> >
> > jho
> > >
> > On 12/23/02> From: drK <drk@d...>
> > > Date: 2002/12/23 Mon PM 02:53:01 EST
> > > To: "xl7@yahoogroups.com" <xl7@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [xl7] Using the XL-7 with Protools (or any DAW)
> > >
> > > 12:08 PM, "iproduce@b..." <iproduce@b...>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > rEalm and jho,
> > >
> > > Here's how I would proceed.
> > >
> > > My first approach would be to record the MIDI out of the XX-7 into the host
> > > DAW (Cubase SX, ProTools, etc) with the DAW providing the master MIDI
> > > clocking to the XX-7 and the DAW recording in multi-channel mode. This
> > > would then let you use the DAW later to drive the XX-7 as a sound module and
> > > use muting of each MIDI track to control what is recorded when.
> > >
> > > But if for some reason the MIDI recording approach does not work well then
> > > you still have a choice of using the XX-7's sequencer to control the sound
> > > module and do multi-tracking of audio, either using the XX-7's six separate
> > > outs or just doing it a stereo pair at a time.
> > >
> > > Since there is no easy way of to solo a single track in song mode then I
> > > would suggest an alternative - disabling the actual XX-7 synthesizer
> > > channels associated with a track. This could be one or more if you do heavy
> > > sound layering.
> > >
> > > Probably the easiest way to do this is to use the MIDI Enable feature for
> > > each channel. In EDIT-MIDI scroll until you get to the MIDI ENABLE submenu
> > > and simply find each of the channels you are using (01A-16B). Turn those
> > > used one's off and turn back on the one (or ones) you need to record for
> > > each pass.
> > >
> > > These act like system-wide mutes on the synth module and are very handy for
> > > quickly turning things on or off.
> > >
> > > just a suggestion.
> > >
> > >
> > > drk
> > >
> > > www.delora.com/music
> > > www.mp3.com/zdrk
> > > drk.iuma.com
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Re: Using the XL-7 with Protools (or any DAW)

2002-12-28 by jesse_medway <medway808@hotmail.com>

>composing on the XL, which I like.  I'd love anyone elses feedback 
>using a similar XL / Daw and how you do it.


The only thing you could do to speed it up is to record
6 sounds at a time through the multiouts.  Of course you
lose the ability to have discret control over the effects
then.  But I'm sure your PT effects are just as good.

Either that or find an "Assistant" to help you do it so
you can go off somewhere while they do the dity work.
Find a kid whos eager to leanrn etc..

Jesse

Re: [xl7] Using the XL-7 with Protools (or any DAW)

2003-01-06 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

That's pretty much the only way to do it if you want seperate audio tracks 
in your sequencer.  Time consuming for sure!  I just sit there in front of 
the PC with a good magazine or book while I do that sort of stuff, or I 
dust the studio :)

rEalm



So I had to make basically 16 sync'ed up passes thru Protools HD.  But it 
was a pain to do and took almost 3 hours for a 4 minute song!  It was so 
cumbersome and timeconsuming I'm wondering if I ever want to go thru that 
process again--seems it would be much easier to just trigger the XL from a 
computer sequencer cuz then you can easily mute tracks on the 
computer...but then you loose that quick-spontaneous asset of composing on 
the XL, which I like.  I'd love anyone elses feedback using a similar XL / 
Daw and how you do it.





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