Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

I'm seriously considering purchasing an mp-7 because i need a 
break from composing and working completely on the computer. 
i use a Mac with Logic, Reason and Ableton Live and all the 
technology is getting in the way of my music. so it's time for a 
new toy. the mp-7 looks and sounds dope and i''ve used e-mu 
stuff in the past and feel very comfortable working with it. my 
favorite piece of gear ever was my Ensoniq ASRX Pro(wish i 
hadn't sold it) because of the awesome sound quality. 
unfortunately the sequencer SUCKED and it was very buggy. 
anyway, i guess my question is: Is the sequencer on the mp-7 
very tight? i'll be producing hip-hop and mellow d&b and 
tightness is of the essence. i'm worried because i know e-mu 
isn't exactly known for making sequencers. and is everybody 
happy with the sounds or are they getting old? oh, and can i load 
my own sounds in with the expansion flash rom with an e5000 
Ultra or do i need an E4 sampler? it says 2 different things on 
e-mus site. thanks and i hope to be playing a new mp-7 soon.

> anyway, i guess my question is: Is the sequencer on the mp-7 
> very tight?

In my experience: not very. I've measured drift of up to 16msec. I'm
going to be making some more detailed and exhaustive measurements over
the next week or two, and will report back.

-- 

  nick rothwell -- composition, systems, performance -- http://www.cassiel.com

I don't know what you're doing on your end to get that much drift, but I
don't have a single problem.  I have had a slight problem using older
outboard effects that have high latency problems.  But until I can hear
somthing more concrete, I will have to disagree with you.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nick Rothwell" <nick@...>
To: <xl7@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 3:55 AM
Subject: Re: [xl7] Tight Seaquencer?


> > anyway, i guess my question is: Is the sequencer on the mp-7
> > very tight?
>
> In my experience: not very. I've measured drift of up to 16msec. I'm
> going to be making some more detailed and exhaustive measurements over
> the next week or two, and will report back.
>
> --
>
>   nick rothwell -- composition, systems, performance --
http://www.cassiel.com
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wow, that doesn't sound good. do you have any numbers from 
say, and MPC2000xl in comparison? oh, do you have a HD 
multitrack that you could use to sync with the xx-7? i used to get 
HUGE amounts of MIDI slip with my ASRX Pro(sometimes 
upwards of 20ms) and i solved the problem by simply slaving it 
to the clock on my old Korg D8. it tightened it right up and never 
had a problem since. apparently it wasn't struggling with the 
notes but with the time itself. i'm really eager to hear what you 
come up with. and thanks to everyone for the warm welcome.
-t


--- In xl7@y..., Nick Rothwell <nick@c...> wrote:
> > anyway, i guess my question is: Is the sequencer on the 
mp-7 
> > very tight?
> 
> In my experience: not very. I've measured drift of up to 16msec.

wow, that doesn't sound good. do you have any numbers from 
say, and MPC2000xl in comparison? oh, do you have a HD 
multitrack that you could use to sync with the xx-7? i used to get 
HUGE amounts of MIDI slip with my ASRX Pro(sometimes 
upwards of 20ms) and i solved the problem by simply slaving it 
to the clock on my old Korg D8. it tightened it right up and never 
had a problem since. apparently it wasn't struggling with the 
notes but with the time itself. i'm really eager to hear what you 
come up with. and thanks to everyone for the warm welcome.
-t


--- In xl7@y..., Nick Rothwell <nick@c...> wrote:
> > anyway, i guess my question is: Is the sequencer on the 
mp-7 
> > very tight?
> 
> In my experience: not very. I've measured drift of up to 16msec.

Is the sequencer Tight when I first pick up my MP-7 no, but after i 
downloaded the latest update driver super tight no problems.

I have an MPC 200xl that I only use every now and then because i like 
the MP-7 so much. I have my ASR-X Pro locked to it the combo is 
killer I produce Hip Hop and R&B using Logic as well.

As far as sounds go I make a lot of my own plus I have the Beat 
Garden rom card which is tight for Hip Hop, D&B or what every you 
feel.

Is the sequencer tight yes it's nothing like the crap in the ASR-X 
Pro thats why the MP-7 runs everything if I don't sequence with Logic.

Big Dog

good to know. sounds like we are doing similar stuff with similar 
equipment. glad to here you are liking the MP-7 because i just 
bought one! hell yes! i've had it about an hour and i love it 
already.


--- In xl7@y..., "Big Dog  Blackwell" <superproducers@y...> wrote:
> 
> Is the sequencer Tight when I first pick up my MP-7 no, but after 
i 
> downloaded the latest update driver super tight no problems.
> 
> I have an MPC 200xl that I only use every now and then 
because i like 
> the MP-7 so much. I have my ASR-X Pro locked to it the combo 
is 
> killer I produce Hip Hop and R&B using Logic as well.
> 
> As far as sounds go I make a lot of my own plus I have the 
Beat 
> Garden rom card which is tight for Hip Hop, D&B or what every 
you 
> feel.
> 
> Is the sequencer tight yes it's nothing like the crap in the ASR-X 
> Pro thats why the MP-7 runs everything if I don't sequence with 
Logic.
> 
> Big Dog

Hi,

I just bought my MP-7 a few weeks ago.  I too was worried
about the timing after reading Nick's remarks.  

Luckily I have had no problems with tightness.  I have the
MP-7 sync'd to an SP1200.  I have my kick, snare and a few
other things seq on the SP but most of my patterns are made on the
MP-7.  All I can say is that the timing is great.  I'm working
on a track right now with a recycled loop with the midi running in 
the MP-7 triggering samples in an ASR-10, along with some tambourine 
that is triggering the SP (the MP-7 is doing the seqeunce becuase I 
needed a 16th note swing which the SP sequencer wont do)  The drums 
are really tight.  This iw also with some synths and perc from the 
internal MP-7 sounds running at the same time.

The only time I heard midi slop was when I had a sequence
playing with all onboard sounds and some thick layered pads.

But it seems that if you are using outside sources and not
*too* much layered internal sounds you will be fine.

I am very happy with this setup, like you I got the MP-7
to get away from Logic and so far its been great.

Jesse

that's great to hear. i'm just now starting to get into some 
features. still can't figure out how to get to the effects. i'm 
psyched to learn something new and for now it beats staring at 
the computer screen. is it normal for the machine to freeze up 
alot? mine has locked up 3 times and i only took it out of the box 
a few hours ago. i'm on OS 1.31. i can't figure out what's causing 
it. i had a very simple sequence going and was plying a pad and 
turning a knob or something and it just froze. i bought this thing 
to get away from crashes! lol. oh well, atleast i'm using my ears 
and not my eyes for a change.
-t

--- In xl7@y..., "jesse_medway" <medway808@h...> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I just bought my MP-7 a few weeks ago.  I too was worried
> about the timing after reading Nick's remarks.  
> 
> Luckily I have had no problems with tightness.  I have the
> MP-7 sync'd to an SP1200.  I have my kick, snare and a few
> other things seq on the SP but most of my patterns are made 
on the
> MP-7.  All I can say is that the timing is great.  I'm working
> on a track right now with a recycled loop with the midi running 
in 
> the MP-7 triggering samples in an ASR-10, along with some 
tambourine 
> that is triggering the SP (the MP-7 is doing the seqeunce 
becuase I 
> needed a 16th note swing which the SP sequencer wont do)  
The drums 
> are really tight.  This iw also with some synths and perc from 
the 
> internal MP-7 sounds running at the same time.
> 
> The only time I heard midi slop was when I had a sequence
> playing with all onboard sounds and some thick layered pads.
> 
> But it seems that if you are using outside sources and not
> *too* much layered internal sounds you will be fine.
> 
> I am very happy with this setup, like you I got the MP-7
> to get away from Logic and so far its been great.
> 
> Jesse

Wow.  MP7, SP1200, and ASR10   - 3 classics :)
----- Original Message -----
From: "jesse_medway" <medway808@...>
To: <xl7@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 9:10 PM
Subject: [xl7] Re: Tight Seaquencer?


> Hi,
>
> I just bought my MP-7 a few weeks ago.  I too was worried
> about the timing after reading Nick's remarks.
>
> Luckily I have had no problems with tightness.  I have the
> MP-7 sync'd to an SP1200.  I have my kick, snare and a few
> other things seq on the SP but most of my patterns are made on the
> MP-7.  All I can say is that the timing is great.  I'm working
> on a track right now with a recycled loop with the midi running in
> the MP-7 triggering samples in an ASR-10, along with some tambourine
> that is triggering the SP (the MP-7 is doing the seqeunce becuase I
> needed a 16th note swing which the SP sequencer wont do)  The drums
> are really tight.  This iw also with some synths and perc from the
> internal MP-7 sounds running at the same time.
>
> The only time I heard midi slop was when I had a sequence
> playing with all onboard sounds and some thick layered pads.
>
> But it seems that if you are using outside sources and not
> *too* much layered internal sounds you will be fine.
>
> I am very happy with this setup, like you I got the MP-7
> to get away from Logic and so far its been great.
>
> Jesse
>
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You're not Jesse Skeens by any chance, are you?

rEalm





jesse_medway <medway808@...>
12/03/02 09:10 PM
Please respond to xl7

 
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        Subject:        [xl7] Re: Tight Seaquencer?


Hi,

I just bought my MP-7 a few weeks ago.  I too was worried
about the timing after reading Nick's remarks. 

Luckily I have had no problems with tightness.  I have the
MP-7 sync'd to an SP1200.  I have my kick, snare and a few
other things seq on the SP but most of my patterns are made on the
MP-7.  All I can say is that the timing is great.  I'm working
on a track right now with a recycled loop with the midi running in 
the MP-7 triggering samples in an ASR-10, along with some tambourine 
that is triggering the SP (the MP-7 is doing the seqeunce becuase I 
needed a 16th note swing which the SP sequencer wont do)  The drums 
are really tight.  This iw also with some synths and perc from the 
internal MP-7 sounds running at the same time.

The only time I heard midi slop was when I had a sequence
playing with all onboard sounds and some thick layered pads.

But it seems that if you are using outside sources and not
*too* much layered internal sounds you will be fine.

I am very happy with this setup, like you I got the MP-7
to get away from Logic and so far its been great.

Jesse


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I haven't had any crashes at all yet.  Yes it would be ironic to get 
crashes on hardware when that was part of the reason to ditch the 
computer.

I do agree though that not staring at a screen is great to make you 
actually listen to what you are doing.

> alot? mine has locked up 3 times and i only took it out of the box 
> a few hours ago. i'm on OS 1.31. i can't figure out what's causing 
> it. i had a very simple sequence going and was plying a pad and 
> turning a knob or something and it just froze. i bought this thing 
> to get away from crashes! lol. oh well, atleast i'm using my ears 
> and not my eyes for a change.

--- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> You're not Jesse Skeens by any chance, are you?

Yes.

Hehe, very cool.  I really dig your tunes man (got a few of the older Hooj 
vinyls I still play out all the time), the only reason I made the 
connection was that I was getting the remix files from Release Records 
earlier today.  Very cool to have you here.

rEalm






--- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> You're not Jesse Skeens by any chance, are you?

Yes.


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small world then :)

good luck with the remix, what will you be using to do it, i assume
the mp-7, but what else do you use?

i got two remixes im doing myself right now to learn the mp-7
on, so far its working out great.


--- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> Hehe, very cool.  I really dig your tunes man (got a few of the 
older Hooj 
> vinyls I still play out all the time), the only reason I made the 
> connection was that I was getting the remix files from Release 
Records 
> earlier today.  Very cool to have you here.
> 
> rEalm
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by the way, any chance you know the answer to the question
i posted about the pads transmitting?  really got me stumped.


--- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> Hehe, very cool.  I really dig your tunes man (got a few of the 
older Hooj 
> vinyls I still play out all the time), the only reason I made the 
> connection was that I was getting the remix files from Release 
Records 
> earlier today.  Very cool to have you here.
> 
> rEalm
]

I'll be using mostly Cubase SX, Reason and my VSTi's, though I imagine the 
XL-7 will probably make an appearance too.  I've been doing nothing but 
XL-7 only stuff for weeks now making my contest tunes, so I'm about ready 
to head back to DAW world :)  You going to enter a tune in the contest?

rEalm




small world then :)

good luck with the remix, what will you be using to do it, i assume
the mp-7, but what else do you use?

i got two remixes im doing myself right now to learn the mp-7
on, so far its working out great.



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I was thinking about it.  I have a few cool loops I did
just in the MP-7 but so far I've been busy doing remix
stuff so well have to see.  It will be interesting to see
what people come up with.  

--- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> I'll be using mostly Cubase SX, Reason and my VSTi's, though I 
imagine the 
> XL-7 will probably make an appearance too.  I've been doing nothing 
but 
> XL-7 only stuff for weeks now making my contest tunes, so I'm about 
ready 
> to head back to DAW world :)  You going to enter a tune in the 
contest?
> 
> rEalm
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