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The Official Contest Rules and Info

The Official Contest Rules and Info

2002-10-28 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

Ok guys, based on the list conversations happening last week, here's the 
official rules for our not-so-official, first ever XX-7 contest:
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1. All tracks must be no longer than 6 minutes, encoded to MP3 format at 
44.1kHz, and no greater than 192Kbs.  If you need an encoder, WinLame is a 
free download and I think the best sounding encoder out.  It can be found 
at: "http://winlame.sourceforge.net/".

2. You can only use the internal sounds, effects, and sequencing 
capabilities of the XX-7's to create your song.  So no external samplers, 
sequencers, computers, effects processors, or synths. I think it's fair to 
use an external controller keyboard, provided it's not something like say 
a Karma that can generate really complex arps or CC data that the XX-7's 
aren't capable of. Ideally, you should just record the output of your song 
from the XX-7 into the computer, encode it to MP3, and that's it. No 
mastering!   The point of this contest is to let all listmembers compete 
on a common platform, so we're taking external gear out of the equation 
completely.

3. All tracks will be hosted at "http://emucs.iuma.com" once the site is approved (only a couple more days).  Once you have 
conmpleted your track, email me at "rEalm619@..." and I'll send 
you the upload instructions and passwords.  Please don't email the list 
telling them your song is ready for download, we're going to try and keep 
this anonymous until the voting it over.  So don't place your name in the 
MP3 ID Tags! :)

4. All entries must be completed and uploaded to the site by Jan 10th. 
Please don't wait until the last night to upload your tune, this really 
slows things down and ultimately may mean your song doesn't get uploaded 
to the site in time.  Voting will take place Jan 11th-19th, with the 
winners announced on Jan 20th.  I'll set up a poll on the Yahoogroups XL-7 
site, where users can go and vote on their 1 favorite song.  I'm still 
hoping that someone not entering a song can take over this aspect, as I 
plan on entering and in the interest of fairness don't want to be the one 
responsible for the voting aspect of this contest too.

5. Keep notes of how you made your song, once all the votes are in we'll 
post our production notes for all to read. That way not only can other's 
hear what you did, they can read about how you DID it too.

6. I don't think the overall goal of this should be to win though, it's 
more to have fun, let others hear your stuff, get new ideas yourself, and 
possibly even gain some constructive critism. We have no way of knowing 
who cheats, so let's just use the honor system and NO ONE CHEAT! 
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Hopefully those rules are to everyone's approval, there's nothing really 
too out there.  I also hope that many, many people will take part in this 
contest.  It's all for fun, so you don't need to be experienced to take 
part.  If you're not good at doing songs, just perform a pattern in 
realtime and record the results.  Also, if you REALLY can't take part by 
writing a song, then at least take part by listening to the songs and 
voting.  That way we don't get 20 people entering and all voting for their 
own song :)

rEalm

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Re: [xl7] The Official Contest Rules and Info

2002-10-28 by ->Nobody<-

erik_magrini@... wrote:
> The point of this contest is to let all listmembers compete on a > common platform, so we're taking external gear out of the equation 
> completely.

Yup, but what about the recording gear? Portastudio? Computer? 
And then, every gear does not come with digital inputs, not to 
mention the questionnable quality of most consumer electronics 
A/D converters... :)

> We have no way of knowing
> who cheats, so let's just use the honor system and NO ONE CHEAT!
> ----------------------------------------------

What about posting the sequence with the MP3, so people owning the
same ROM can judge if the tune has been made according to the rules 
or not?

I would understand people being protective about their tunes though.

What style the tune should be BTW? 
Comparing apples and oranges would be rather unfair.
-- 
Sebastien,
-=-=-=-=-=
I'd love to, but I'm trying to be less popular.
 
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http://poumtschak.free.fr/ (a few Mp3 in bulk...)
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Re: [xl7] The Official Contest Rules and Info

2002-10-29 by David Jones

Maybe we should do catagories??

hrm
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> What style the tune should be BTW?
> Comparing apples and oranges would be rather unfair.
> --
> Sebastien,
> -=-=-=-=-=
> I'd love to, but I'm trying to be less popular.
>
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> http://www.mp3.com/unpretentious
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Re: [xl7] The Official Contest Rules and Info

2002-10-29 by Ravi Ivan Sharma

I think the only category should be XX-7 and nothing else. There is no such thing as fair/unfair when it comes to opinions, which is what the voting comes down to in any contest, regardless of categories. Best track is best track, even in the grammies.
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  From: David Jones 
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  Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 11:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [xl7] The Official Contest Rules and Info


  Maybe we should do catagories??

  hrm


  > What style the tune should be BTW?
  > Comparing apples and oranges would be rather unfair.
  > --
  > Sebastien,
  > -=-=-=-=-=
  > I'd love to, but I'm trying to be less popular.
  >
  > mailto:poumtschak@... -=- ICQ# 6030405
  > http://poumtschak.free.fr/ (a few Mp3 in bulk...)
  > http://www.mp3.com/unpretentious
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Re: [xl7] The Official Contest Rules and Info

2002-10-29 by ->Nobody<-

Define 'best' please.
:)

PS: I'm not trolling, just asking.

Ravi Ivan Sharma wrote:
> Best track is best track, even in the grammies.
-- 
Sebastien,
-=-=-=-=-=
The ballot is stronger than the bullet.
 
mailto:poumtschak@... -=- ICQ# 6030405
http://poumtschak.free.fr/ (a few Mp3 in bulk...)
http://www.mp3.com/unpretentious

Re: [xl7] The Official Contest Rules and Info

2002-10-29 by just john

>Define 'best' please.
>:)
>
>PS: I'm not trolling, just asking.
>
>Ravi Ivan Sharma wrote:
>> Best track is best track, even in the grammies.


Yeah, the mention of "best" in a sentence with "Grammies" kinda threw me
for a loop, too.


Anyway, to your question:  Pete Best was the Beatles' drummer before Ringo.
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Re: [xl7] The Official Contest Rules and Info

2002-10-29 by Ravi Ivan Sharma

the track that recieves the most votes from individual voters choosing their overall favorite track.

Sorry, sounds like trolling. But I will give you the benefit of the smiley.
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  Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 3:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [xl7] The Official Contest Rules and Info


  Define 'best' please.
  :)

  PS: I'm not trolling, just asking.

  Ravi Ivan Sharma wrote:
  > Best track is best track, even in the grammies.
  -- 
  Sebastien,
  -=-=-=-=-=
  The ballot is stronger than the bullet.

  mailto:poumtschak@... -=- ICQ# 6030405
  http://poumtschak.free.fr/ (a few Mp3 in bulk...)
  http://www.mp3.com/unpretentious

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RE: [xl7] The Official Contest Rules and Info

2002-10-29 by ByronIV

No, categories would throw this into a whole new world of arguments. There
is nothing so debatable as genre classification in music. Not to mention, we
probably don't really have enough people to make it worth it....we'd end up
with 50 entries and 25 winners! What it really comes down to is the box, and
what one can squeeze out of it. Any true music appreciater can look beyond
style and genre and hear the true inner groove or harmony of a song. The
best songs out there tend to defy the tight grips of stereotypical
classifications anyways.

nuff said
ByronIV


> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Jones [mailto:spec@...]
> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 10:19 PM
> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [xl7] The Official Contest Rules and Info
>
>
> Maybe we should do catagories??
>
> hrm
>
>
> > What style the tune should be BTW?
> > Comparing apples and oranges would be rather unfair.
> > --
> > Sebastien,
> > -=-=-=-=-=
> > I'd love to, but I'm trying to be less popular.

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RE: [xl7] The Official Contest Rules and Info

2002-10-29 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

Well said!

rEalm



No, categories would throw this into a whole new world of arguments. There
is nothing so debatable as genre classification in music. Not to mention, 
we
probably don't really have enough people to make it worth it....we'd end 
up
with 50 entries and 25 winners! What it really comes down to is the box, 
and
what one can squeeze out of it. Any true music appreciater can look beyond
style and genre and hear the true inner groove or harmony of a song. The
best songs out there tend to defy the tight grips of stereotypical
classifications anyways.



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Re: The Official Contest Rules and Info

2002-10-30 by nifflas

I think people will not cheat. If they do, they will be missing the 
whole point of the competition.
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> What about posting the sequence with the MP3, so people owning the
> same ROM can judge if the tune has been made according to the rules 
> or not?

Re: [xl7] Re: The Official Contest Rules and Info

2002-10-30 by Mark Pipher

With no prize, there is little motivation for anyone to cheat. But there IS
plenty of motivation to really learn this device, struggle a bit, challenge
ourselves, and hopefully create some enjoyable music we would not normally
have.

For me, that¹s motivation enough not to cheat.

Mark


On 10/30/02 7:20 AM, "nifflas" <nifflas@...> wrote:

> I think people will not cheat. If they do, they will be missing the
> whole point of the competition.
> 
>> > What about posting the sequence with the MP3, so people owning the
>> > same ROM can judge if the tune has been made according to the rules
>> > or not?
> 



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