Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

Please? :)

Internet is text, just text, only text.

And BTW, just got my XL-7. Sounds nice.
-- 
Sebastien,
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Woman's mind is cleaner than man's; it changes more often
 
mailto:poumtschak@... -=- ICQ# 6030405
http://poumtschak.free.fr/ (a few Mp3 in bulk...)
http://www.mp3.com/unpretentious

Yes!!!!

Am 03.10.2002 21:01 Uhr schrieb "->Nobody<-" unter <poumtschak@...>:

> Please? :)
> 
> Internet is text, just text, only text.
> 
> And BTW, just got my XL-7. Sounds nice.

-----------------------------------
Richard Zelzer

Internet:
http://www.zelzer.com
http://www.zhtml.de
http://www.zmac.de
http://www.zmusik.de

It's on you to do that, not us.  Go to:

http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups

Then click on XL-7 as the group you want.  From there, you'll see a link 
on the far right side of the screen that says:

"Edit My Membership"

Click on that, scroll down a bit and select:

Message Format - Do Not Convert To HTML.

Save your changes.

Done.

rEalm






-/Nobody
10/03/02 02:01 PM
Please respond to xl7

 
        To:     "xl7@yahoogroups.com" <xl7@yahoogroups.com>
        cc: 

        Subject:        [xl7] [OT] Please cut out HTML posts.


Please? :)

Internet is text, just text, only text.

And BTW, just got my XL-7. Sounds nice.
-- 
Sebastien,
-=-=-=-=-=
Woman's mind is cleaner than man's; it changes more often
 
mailto:poumtschak@... -=- ICQ# 6030405
http://poumtschak.free.fr/ (a few Mp3 in bulk...)
http://www.mp3.com/unpretentious


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I'm not a "member" of yahoogroups, ergo all screen interactions are out.
(Including polls, the suggestions database, etc.)

And not all messages come through as HTML.  F'rinstance, the one I'm
replying to didn't.

But all of Ravi Ivan Sharma's DO come through that way, so unless/until I
perform massaging on them, they look like blank messages.  That's what I
think the complaint was about.





>It's on you to do that, not us.  Go to:
>
>http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups
>
>Then click on XL-7 as the group you want.  From there, you'll see a link
>on the far right side of the screen that says:
>
>"Edit My Membership"
>
>Click on that, scroll down a bit and select:
>
>Message Format - Do Not Convert To HTML.
>
>Save your changes.
>
>Done.
>
>rEalm
>
>
>
>
>-/Nobody
>
>10/03/02 02:01 PM
>Please respond to xl7
>       
>        To:        "xl7@yahoogroups.com" <xl7@yahoogroups.com>
>        cc:        
>        Subject:        [xl7] [OT] Please cut out HTML posts.
>
>
>Please? :)
>
>Internet is text, just text, only text.
>
>And BTW, just got my XL-7. Sounds nice.
>--
>Sebastien,
>-=-=-=-=-=
>Woman's mind is cleaner than man's; it changes more often
>
>mailto:poumtschak@... -=- ICQ# 6030405
>http://poumtschak.free.fr/ (a few Mp3 in bulk...)
>http://www.mp3.com/unpretentious
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erik_magrini@... wrote:
> It's on you to do that, not us.  Go to:

Er... I don't think so. 
FYI, my membership parameters are ok (i.e. no HTML).
It's your mail client that does send HTML posts, not mine. :)

I don't wanna step on any toes here, but it does make your posts hard 
to read, not to mention the Yahoo advertisement crap.
-- 
Sebastien,
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Woman's mind is cleaner than man's; it changes more often
 
mailto:poumtschak@... -=- ICQ# 6030405
http://poumtschak.free.fr/ (a few Mp3 in bulk...)
http://www.mp3.com/unpretentious

Sorry then, I only get non-html emails here anyway, I set it up in my 
email software (Lotus Notes).

rEalm





-/Nobody
10/03/02 02:48 PM
Please respond to xl7

 
        To:     xl7@yahoogroups.com
        cc: 

        Subject:        Re: [xl7] [OT] Please cut out HTML posts.


erik_magrini@... wrote:
> It's on you to do that, not us.  Go to:

Er... I don't think so. 
FYI, my membership parameters are ok (i.e. no HTML).
It's your mail client that does send HTML posts, not mine. :)

I don't wanna step on any toes here, but it does make your posts hard 
to read, not to mention the Yahoo advertisement crap.
-- 
Sebastien,
-=-=-=-=-=
Woman's mind is cleaner than man's; it changes more often
 
mailto:poumtschak@... -=- ICQ# 6030405
http://poumtschak.free.fr/ (a few Mp3 in bulk...)
http://www.mp3.com/unpretentious


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Also, there's no setting I can make as a moderator to change that, I 
checked the first time you emailed me last week.  Maybe the list admin can 
do it (though I don't think they have that option either), but I can't.

rEalm





-/Nobody
10/03/02 02:48 PM
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        To:     xl7@yahoogroups.com
        cc: 

        Subject:        Re: [xl7] [OT] Please cut out HTML posts.


erik_magrini@... wrote:
> It's on you to do that, not us.  Go to:

Er... I don't think so. 
FYI, my membership parameters are ok (i.e. no HTML).
It's your mail client that does send HTML posts, not mine. :)

I don't wanna step on any toes here, but it does make your posts hard 
to read, not to mention the Yahoo advertisement crap.
-- 
Sebastien,
-=-=-=-=-=
Woman's mind is cleaner than man's; it changes more often
 
mailto:poumtschak@... -=- ICQ# 6030405
http://poumtschak.free.fr/ (a few Mp3 in bulk...)
http://www.mp3.com/unpretentious


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erik_magrini@... wrote:
> Also, there's no setting I can make as a moderator to change that, I
> checked the first time you emailed me last week.

Too bad. :(

Anyway, thanks for looking, and sorry for the rant.
-- 
Sebastien,
-=-=-=-=-=
Woman's mind is cleaner than man's; it changes more often
 
mailto:poumtschak@... -=- ICQ# 6030405
http://poumtschak.free.fr/ (a few Mp3 in bulk...)
http://www.mp3.com/unpretentious

HI all,

It took me a while some time back to work out how those "Edit My Membership"
set-ups work, but basically, if you send a post with HTML enabled in your
email client, the recipient (ie. everyone) receives in HTML meaning your
messages are received with any special fonts and text colour enabled, and
Yahoo slaps an annoying banner ad on the bottom that the computer must
connect to the internet in order to d/l, even in you were offline and just
wanted to browse your personal archives.

Those with HTML permanently disabled in the email client  (as is my work
address) receive the HTML-style mail in raw text but littered with HTML code
throughout, making the true message hard to read.

> Message Format - Do Not Convert To HTML.

This setting stops non-HTML posts from being converted to HTML, and
therefore stops Yahoo slapping an annoying banner ad on the bottom of
*every* mail sent to your mail box (well they do, but it's text only).

In every yahoogroups post I send, I go to the Format menu (Outlook Express -
Mac) and disable the HTML option prior to sending.

It's possible for the moderator to switch off HTML for every post
distributed by yahoogroups (as some lists do, such as DAW_mac). The catch is
though, everyone sending HTML must stop too, otherwise their posts are
received by all with ugly HTML code throughout.

I guess it's easier to stop it at the source.

Phil

> It's on you to do that, not us.  Go to:
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups
> 
> Then click on XL-7 as the group you want.  From there, you'll see a link
> on the far right side of the screen that says:
> 
> "Edit My Membership"
> 
> Click on that, scroll down a bit and select:
> 
> Message Format - Do Not Convert To HTML.
> 
> Save your changes.
> 
> Done.
> 
> rEalm

No, i think that was the internet before Microsoft we are all missing ;-)

Richard

Am 04.10.2002 8:09 Uhr schrieb "Ravi Ivan Sharma" unter
<noision1@...>:

> That was the old last millenium internet you are missing.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ->Nobody<- 
> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 3:01 PM
> Subject: [xl7] [OT] Please cut out HTML posts.
> 
> 
> Please? :)
> 
> Internet is text, just text, only text.
> 
> And BTW, just got my XL-7. Sounds nice.
> -- 
> Sebastien,
> -=-=-=-=-=
> Woman's mind is cleaner than man's; it changes more often
> 
> mailto:poumtschak@... -=- ICQ# 6030405
> http://poumtschak.free.fr/ (a few Mp3 in bulk...)
> http://www.mp3.com/unpretentious
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-----------------------------------
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http://www.zelzer.com
http://www.zhtml.de
http://www.zmac.de
http://www.zmusik.de

Done.

rEalm





"Ravi Ivan Sharma" <noision1@...>
10/04/02 09:43 AM
Please respond to xl7

 
        To:     xl7@yahoogroups.com
        cc: 

        Subject:        Re: [xl7] [OT] Please cut out HTML posts.


However, if the administrator disallows attachments, then HTML messages 
will not be even recieved by the group at all. ( I think).
----- Original Message ----- 
From: erik_magrini@... 
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [xl7] [OT] Please cut out HTML posts.


It's on you to do that, not us.  Go to: 

http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups 

Then click on XL-7 as the group you want.  From there, you'll see a link 
on the far right side of the screen that says: 

"Edit My Membership" 

Click on that, scroll down a bit and select: 

Message Format - Do Not Convert To HTML. 

Save your changes. 

Done. 

rEalm 





-/Nobody 
10/03/02 02:01 PM 
Please respond to xl7 
        
        To:        "xl7@yahoogroups.com" <xl7@yahoogroups.com> 
        cc:         
        Subject:        [xl7] [OT] Please cut out HTML posts.



Please? :)

Internet is text, just text, only text.

And BTW, just got my XL-7. Sounds nice.
-- 
Sebastien,
-=-=-=-=-=
Woman's mind is cleaner than man's; it changes more often

mailto:poumtschak@... -=- ICQ# 6030405
http://poumtschak.free.fr/ (a few Mp3 in bulk...)
http://www.mp3.com/unpretentious


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I could'nt agree more. 
http://www.radsoft.net/resources/rants/20010918,00.html
The whole rants are worth reading anyway.
http://www.radsoft.net/resources/rants/
Is a non-bloatted, elegant personal computing too much asking?
AmigaOS for ever. :)

Richard.Zelzer@... wrote:
> No, i think that was the internet before Microsoft we are all missing ;-)
> Richard
> 
> Am 04.10.2002 8:09 Uhr schrieb "Ravi Ivan Sharma" unter
> <noision1@...>:
> 
> > That was the old last millenium internet you are missing.
-- 
Sebastien,
-=-=-=-=-=
Never call a man a fool. Instead, borrow from him.
 
mailto:poumtschak@... -=- ICQ# 6030405
http://poumtschak.free.fr/ (a few Mp3 in bulk...)
http://www.mp3.com/unpretentious

>Also, there's no setting I can make as a moderator to change that, I
checked the >first time you emailed me last week.  Maybe the list admin can
do it (though I don't >think they have that option either), but I can't.

Nope.  Sorry, there's nothing I can do as list admin to stop html messages
at this end.


>However, if the administrator disallows attachments, then HTML messages
will >not be even recieved by the group at all. ( I think).

I don't think this will work either. The html isn't being sent as an
attachment.

I'm all for elegant, efficient posting, but... it's a losing battle. Your
best bet is to get a reader that can deal with html posts. This group has
half a thousand members, with more being added every day - since we can't
stop html posts with technology, we'll have this battle repeatedly as new
members arrive. Your best bet is to get an html/rich text capable reader.


Jonathan

----- Original Message -----
From: erik_magrini@...
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [xl7] [OT] Please cut out HTML posts.



It's on you to do that, not us.  Go to:

http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups

Then click on XL-7 as the group you want.  From there, you'll see a link on
the far right side of the screen that says:

"Edit My Membership"

Click on that, scroll down a bit and select:

Message Format - Do Not Convert To HTML.

Save your changes.

Done.

rEalm




-/Nobody
10/03/02 02:01 PM
Please respond to xl7

        To:        "xl7@yahoogroups.com" <xl7@yahoogroups.com>
        cc:
        Subject:        [xl7] [OT] Please cut out HTML posts.



Please? :)

Internet is text, just text, only text.

And BTW, just got my XL-7. Sounds nice.
--
Sebastien,
-=-=-=-=-=
Woman's mind is cleaner than man's; it changes more often

mailto:poumtschak@... -=- ICQ# 6030405
http://poumtschak.free.fr/ (a few Mp3 in bulk...)
http://www.mp3.com/unpretentious


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Actually I checked the help section, if the moderator turns off 
attachements, then all html posts are rejected. I personally think 
this is heavy handed and that everyone should graduate to html mail 
clients,

BUT, the advantages to this are that the ADS are cut down to little 
text blurbs, not the huge pictures. So it is positive in that 
respect. 

Anyhow, rEalm changed it and we will see how we like it!

Ravi

p.s. look at this: www.mc-909.com



--- In xl7@y..., "Jonathan El-Bizri" <sserendipity@n...> wrote:
> 
> >Also, there's no setting I can make as a moderator to change 
that, I
> checked the >first time you emailed me last week.  Maybe the list 
admin can
> do it (though I don't >think they have that option either), but I 
can't.
> 
> Nope.  Sorry, there's nothing I can do as list admin to stop html 
messages
> at this end.
> 
> 
> >However, if the administrator disallows attachments, then HTML 
messages
> will >not be even recieved by the group at all. ( I think).
> 
> I don't think this will work either. The html isn't being sent as 
an
> attachment.
>

>Actually I checked the help section, if the moderator turns off
>attachements, then all html posts are rejected. I personally think
>this is heavy handed and that everyone should graduate to html mail
>clients,
>
>BUT, the advantages to this are that the ADS are cut down to little
>text blurbs, not the huge pictures. So it is positive in that
>respect.
>
>Anyhow, rEalm changed it and we will see how we like it!
>
>Ravi

Hey, the first message from you that shows up without work on my part!

Congrats!


And I have no intention of "graduating" to an email client that executes
spammers' javascript.
---
* just-john@...  http://just-john.com/cn/rfe.shtml *

>Actually I checked the help section, if the moderator turns off
>attachements, then all html posts are rejected. I personally think
>this is heavy handed and that everyone should graduate to html mail
>clients,

And PS:  This mail reader DOES read properly formatted HTML email.  It's
just that Microsoft Outlook Express formats it incorrectly.

As we say in the anti-spam groups, Friends don't let friends use Microsoft
Outlook Express.
---
* just-john@...  http://just-john.com/cn/rfe.shtml *

Hmm...

I've been using express for pretty much all of this group, and I don't recall getting any messages being messed up.

bIz

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: just john 
  To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 3:34 PM
  Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: [OT] Please cut out HTML posts.


  >Actually I checked the help section, if the moderator turns off
  >attachements, then all html posts are rejected. I personally think
  >this is heavy handed and that everyone should graduate to html mail
  >clients,

  And PS:  This mail reader DOES read properly formatted HTML email.  It's
  just that Microsoft Outlook Express formats it incorrectly.

  As we say in the anti-spam groups, Friends don't let friends use Microsoft
  Outlook Express.
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>Hmm...
>
>I've been using express for pretty much all of this group, and I don't
>recall getting any messages being messed up.
>
>bIz
>

Mainly because I generally haven't gone through the flips and twists it
took to read your messages.

But here's how they've looked:



>X-eGroups-Return:
>sentto-3677726-3701-1026825434-justjohn=concentric.net@...
>>X-Sender: noision1@...
>X-Apparently-To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
>To: <xl7@yahoogroups.com>
>X-Priority: 3
>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
>X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jul 2002 13:17:14.0133 (UTC)
>FILETIME=[19B8F450:01C22CCB]
>From: "Ravi Ivan Sharma" <noision1@...>
>>X-Yahoo-Profile: noision1
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>Mailing-List: list xl7@yahoogroups.com; contact xl7-owner@yahoogroups.com
>Delivered-To: mailing list xl7@yahoogroups.com
>Precedence: bulk
>List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com>
>Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:17:17 -0400
>Subject: Re: [xl7] More incentive for Chicago peeps!
>Reply-To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
>


---
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HEY HOW DID MY SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER GET IN THERE! :)

(and mother's maiden name)

----- Original Message -----
From: just john
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: [OT] Please cut out HTML posts.


>Hmm...
>
>I've been using express for pretty much all of this group, and I don't
>recall getting any messages being messed up.
>
>bIz
>

Mainly because I generally haven't gone through the flips and twists it
took to read your messages.

But here's how they've looked:



>X-eGroups-Return:
>sentto-3677726-3701-1026825434-justjohn=concentric.net@...
.com
>>X-Sender: noision1@...
>X-Apparently-To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
>To: <xl7@yahoogroups.com>
>X-Priority: 3
>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
>X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jul 2002 13:17:14.0133 (UTC)
>FILETIME=[19B8F450:01C22CCB]
>From: "Ravi Ivan Sharma" <noision1@...>
>>X-Yahoo-Profile: noision1
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>Mailing-List: list xl7@yahoogroups.com; contact xl7-owner@yahoogroups.com
>Delivered-To: mailing list xl7@yahoogroups.com
>Precedence: bulk
>List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com>
>Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:17:17 -0400
>Subject: Re: [xl7] More incentive for Chicago peeps!
>Reply-To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
>


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Everyone should use outlook express. It's great. Its free and it works.
Perhaps the other's are the problem. Always a radical around :) JUST
KIDDING!! (sometimes smileys arent enough)

----- Original Message -----
From: just john
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: [OT] Please cut out HTML posts.


>Actually I checked the help section, if the moderator turns off
>attachements, then all html posts are rejected. I personally think
>this is heavy handed and that everyone should graduate to html mail
>clients,

And PS:  This mail reader DOES read properly formatted HTML email.  It's
just that Microsoft Outlook Express formats it incorrectly.

As we say in the anti-spam groups, Friends don't let friends use Microsoft
Outlook Express.
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