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New rEalm OS wishlist

New rEalm OS wishlist

2002-06-10 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

1. On certain Pattern Edit screens (Cut To Clipboard, Copy To Clipboard, 
etc) there should be an "ALL" option in the Channel field.  So that your 
channel choices would be ALL, 1, 2, 3, 4, etc.... 

2. Entering Pattern Edit Screens should automatically disable the Preset 
Mode if you had it selected beneath the display.  Maybe it's just me, but 
after doing a bunch of Copying and Pasting or other Pattern Editing, I go 
to save and forget I had the Preset Mode active.  I've accidentally 
overwrote so many damn Presets this weekend by mistake. :)

3. In the Save Preset screen, you should be able to play the pads and hear 
the sound of the Preset you are about to overwrite.  Maybe incorporated 
with some use of the Audition button or something.

Other than that I love my XL-7, spent all weekend sitting outside with it 
on my lap, knocking out tune after tune...

rEalm

Re: [xl7] New rEalm OS wishlist

2002-06-10 by Nick Rothwell

> Maybe it's just me, but 
> after doing a bunch of Copying and Pasting or other Pattern Editing, I go 
> to save and forget I had the Preset Mode active.  I've accidentally 
> overwrote so many damn Presets this weekend by mistake. :)

If you've edited the pattern, then the SAVE page should default to
saving the pattern rather than the preset, non? I don't understand why
the "preset mode" should make any difference.

My wish-list:

(i) fix all the bugs;
(ii) tighten up the sequencer timing.

-- 

  nick rothwell -- composition, systems, performance -- http://www.cassiel.com

Re: [xl7] New rEalm OS wishlist

2002-06-10 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

Nah if you're in Pattern Mode (selected under the display) pressing Save 
defaults to "Save Pattern".  If you're in Preset Mode, it defaults to 
"Save Preset".  So far so good.  The problem, is that you can be in Preset 
Mode, yet still be moving things around in Pattern Edit screens.  So, if 
you press Save right from a Pattern Edit screen, the Save menu still 
defaults to "Preset Save", even though you may think you're going to save 
the Pattern. 

Yeah, yeah, I know you can just scroll and select Save Pattern, but I'm 
really bad at quick saving in the heat of the moment.  That 
SAVE+CURSOR+ENTER+ENTER routine is second nature now, and too many times 
lately I've fired off the combo only to realize I just overwrote a Preset, 
when I meant to save the Pattern.  It's my own fault of course, but 
changing to behavior to the way I suggested seems logical, and might help 
out others besides myself.

BTW, what sequencer timing problems are you having, internal or external 
gear?  I can't speak for sequencing external gear, but the internal timing 
is the tightest I've ever seen in a "groovebox", or any hardware sequencer 
save maybe a MPC60 or 3000...

rEalm





If you've edited the pattern, then the SAVE page should default to
saving the pattern rather than the preset, non? I don't understand why
the "preset mode" should make any difference.

My wish-list:

(i) fix all the bugs;
(ii) tighten up the sequencer timing.

-- 

  nick rothwell -- composition, systems, performance -- 
http://www.cassiel.com

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Re: [xl7] New rEalm OS wishlist

2002-06-10 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

Oh. Interesting. I think that's different to what the manual claims
(and also different to my recollection) - I'll check as soon as I've
got my XL-7 back in the studio.

>>>I believe it was fixed to this way as of 1.31, might have been 1.17 
though. <<<

Internal. (I use the XL-7 as a clock master to drive other external 
sequencers)

>>>So it's only acting as a master in terms of sending out MIDI Clock 
data, not note and other midi info?  Interesting use! <<<

rEalm

Re: [xl7] New rEalm OS wishlist

2002-06-10 by Nick Rothwell

> Nah if you're in Pattern Mode (selected under the display) pressing Save 
> defaults to "Save Pattern".  If you're in Preset Mode, it defaults to 
> "Save Preset".

Oh. Interesting. I think that's different to what the manual claims
(and also different to my recollection) - I'll check as soon as I've
got my XL-7 back in the studio.

> BTW, what sequencer timing problems are you having, internal or external 
> gear?

Internal. (I use the XL-7 as a clock master to drive other external
sequencers and pattern generators.) A pattern of simple 16th notes
will often sound quite bad, with definite glitches in timing; at other
times the pattern will sound acceptable, although still worse than
(say) my Roland R-8II.

I'm going to pipe the audio into Digital Performer and look at the
waveform timings, to see what the drift actually is.

-- 

  nick rothwell -- composition, systems, performance -- http://www.cassiel.com

Re: [xl7] New rEalm OS wishlist

2002-06-10 by Nick Rothwell

> >>>I believe it was fixed to this way as of 1.31, might have been 1.17 
> though. <<<

I flashed my machine to 1.31 as soon as I got it out of the box...

> >>>So it's only acting as a master in terms of sending out MIDI Clock 
> data, not note and other midi info?  Interesting use! <<<

Correct. Compared to what I can do with the Nord MicroModulars, or the
Pulse Sequencer or Max/MSP, the XL-7's sequencer is stone-age. I used
it for some simple fill-in patterns and stuiff I didn't have time to
port into the Pulse Sequencer.

-- 

  nick rothwell -- composition, systems, performance -- http://www.cassiel.com

Re: [xl7] New rEalm OS wishlist

2002-06-10 by David Jones

I would have to agree with realm on this one. When I'm editing a preset, I should be able to hit save and it saves the preset. Also, it would be nice if you could "lock" your presets to prevent accidental overwriting :)
The sync on my unit to Alesis MMT8, computer, and korg ES-1 is flawless!
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Nah if you're in Pattern Mode (selected under the display) pressing Save defaults to "Save Pattern". If you're in Preset Mode, it defaults to "Save Preset". So far so good. The problem, is that you can be in Preset Mode, yet still be moving things around in Pattern Edit screens. So, if you press Save right from a Pattern Edit screen, the Save menu still defaults to "Preset Save", even though you may think you're going to save the Pattern.

Yeah, yeah, I know you can just scroll and select Save Pattern, but I'm really bad at quick saving in the heat of the moment. That SAVE+CURSOR+ENTER+ENTER routine is second nature now, and too many times lately I've fired off the combo only to realize I just overwrote a Preset, when I meant to save the Pattern. It's my own fault of course, but changing to behavior to the way I suggested seems logical, and might help out others besides myself.

BTW, what sequencer timing problems are you having, internal or external gear? I can't speak for sequencing external gear, but the internal timing is the tightest I've ever seen in a "groovebox", or any hardware sequencer save maybe a MPC60 or 3000...

rEalm





If you've edited the pattern, then the SAVE page should default to
saving the pattern rather than the preset, non? I don't understand why
the "preset mode" should make any difference.

My wish-list:

(i) fix all the bugs;
(ii) tighten up the sequencer timing.

--

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Re: New rEalm OS wishlist

2002-06-11 by mikexl7

I third this one.

locking a preset would be dam good.

Mike



--- In xl7@y..., "David Jones" <spec@s...> wrote:
> I would have to agree with realm on this one.  When I'm editing a 
preset, I should be able to hit save and it saves the preset.  Also, 
it would be nice if you could "lock" your presets to prevent 
accidental overwriting :)
> 
> The sync on my unit to Alesis MMT8, computer, and korg ES-1 is 
flawless!
> 
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: erik_magrini@B... 
>   To: xl7@y... 
>   Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 9:52 AM
>   Subject: Re: [xl7] New rEalm OS wishlist
> 
> 
> 
>   Nah if you're in Pattern Mode (selected under the display) 
pressing Save defaults to "Save Pattern".  If you're in Preset Mode, 
it defaults to "Save Preset".  So far so good.  The problem, is that 
you can be in Preset Mode, yet still be moving things around in 
Pattern Edit screens.  So, if you press Save right from a Pattern 
Edit screen, the Save menu still defaults to "Preset Save", even 
though you may think you're going to save the Pattern.   
> 
>   Yeah, yeah, I know you can just scroll and select Save Pattern, 
but I'm really bad at quick saving in the heat of the moment.  That 
SAVE+CURSOR+ENTER+ENTER routine is second nature now, and too many 
times lately I've fired off the combo only to realize I just 
overwrote a Preset, when I meant to save the Pattern.  It's my own 
fault of course, but changing to behavior to the way I suggested 
seems logical, and might help out others besides myself. 
> 
>   BTW, what sequencer timing problems are you having, internal or 
external gear?  I can't speak for sequencing external gear, but the 
internal timing is the tightest I've ever seen in a "groovebox", or 
any hardware sequencer save maybe a MPC60 or 3000... 
> 
>   rEalm 
> 
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> 
> 
>   If you've edited the pattern, then the SAVE page should default 
to
>   saving the pattern rather than the preset, non? I don't 
understand why
>   the "preset mode" should make any difference.
> 
>   My wish-list:
> 
>   (i) fix all the bugs;
>   (ii) tighten up the sequencer timing.
> 
>   -- 
> 
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http://www.cassiel.com
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Re: [xl7] Re: New rEalm OS wishlist

2002-06-11 by Aaron Eppolito

If you turn QuickEdit off, the knobs will no longer edit the preset, 
only the current sound of it.  Since the preset never gets edited, it 
shouldn't force you to save it...

-Aaron

mikexl7 wrote:
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>I third this one.
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>locking a preset would be dam good.
>  
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Re: [xl7] Re: New rEalm OS wishlist

2002-06-12 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

Hehe, yeah but a lockable Preset would still be safer, if harder to 
implement.  It would be handy for those days when you're doing tons of 
sound design and NEED to be using the knobs. 

rEalm






"Aaron Eppolito" <aarone+list@...>
06/11/02 06:34 PM
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If you turn QuickEdit off, the knobs will no longer edit the preset, 
only the current sound of it.  Since the preset never gets edited, it 
shouldn't force you to save it...

-Aaron

mikexl7 wrote:

>I third this one.
>
>locking a preset would be dam good.
> 
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Re: [xl7] Re: New rEalm OS wishlist

2002-06-13 by David Jones

OR - it would be nice that if a preset were already used in a pattern, and you try to save over it it would warn you. just a thought
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Hehe, yeah but a lockable Preset would still be safer, if harder to implement. It would be handy for those days when you're doing tons of sound design and NEED to be using the knobs.

rEalm




"Aaron Eppolito" <aarone+list@...>

06/11/02 06:34 PM
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To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
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If you turn QuickEdit off, the knobs will no longer edit the preset,
only the current sound of it. Since the preset never gets edited, it
shouldn't force you to save it...

-Aaron

mikexl7 wrote:

>I third this one.
>
>locking a preset would be dam good.
>
>



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