Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

Hi, everyone!

Just got an XL-7; main reason being to replace the sequencer on my 
ASR-10, but I'm finding the synth engine is top notch as well.  
Diggin' it.

Something I've noticed however:  The patterns don't retain my 
instrument data between sessions.  In other words, when I pull up a 
user pattern it loads up an entirely different set of sounds than the 
set I used when I recorded it.

Has anyone ran into this?  I tried RTFM but it was vague about where 
the instrument data is actually stored.  I guess I could build a 
multisetup for each song, but that seems like overkill.

Is there something I'm overlooking?



peas

Shawn
http://locuna.com

Shawn,
It's easiest to assign channel 1A to track 1,  channel 2A to track 2 
etc...  Then, save your preset to that track.  You will have to save 
the preset to a USER bank and not an XL-7 bank.  You cannot save 
tweeked presets to an XL-7 bank.  Don't forget to save your user 
pattern also.  There are great notes posted on the FAQs in the files 
section that should clarify.



--- In xl7@y..., "killyourenemies" <smacko@m...> wrote:
> 
> Hi, everyone!
> 
> Just got an XL-7; main reason being to replace the sequencer on my 
> ASR-10, but I'm finding the synth engine is top notch as well.  
> Diggin' it.
> 
> Something I've noticed however:  The patterns don't retain my 
> instrument data between sessions.  In other words, when I pull up a 
> user pattern it loads up an entirely different set of sounds than 
the 
> set I used when I recorded it.
> 
> Has anyone ran into this?  I tried RTFM but it was vague about 
where 

> the instrument data is actually stored.  I guess I could build a 
> multisetup for each song, but that seems like overkill.
> 
> Is there something I'm overlooking?
> 
> 
> 
> peas
> 
> Shawn
> http://locuna.com

Hmm, everytime you alter a Preset to something other than it's stock form, 
it's best to save the Preset to User location, then immediately save the 
Pattern again with that new Preset location.  If you're saving the Presets 
to new locations, and not resaving the Pattern too, the XL-7 will still 
referrence the older locations upon playback (if it's left the edit 
buffer).

rEalm



That's what I'm having trouble with; I always have to scroll around and 
load the right sounds with each pattern.  My MIDI mapping remains intact 
but the presets do not.

Check out my previous post (though you'll probably already have read it 
if you're reading this one!)

Tracks have to have data on them for their preset choices to be saved. 
 This is to both reduce MIDI spew (32 volumes, pans, preset changes, 
arps, sends, etc.) and to allow you to have channels that don't change 
their presets when you change the pattern so you can perhaps solo with a 
particular sound over multiple patterns.

-Aaron

Shawn Donoho wrote:

>
> Thanks, David and Tommy.  Sorry, I wasn't specific enough; I'm saving 
> the presets, but the user patterns don't load them up between 
> sessions.  I've tried saving the user patterns after loading the 
> correct presets but it doesn't help.
>
> From a recent reply by rEalm:
>
> when a new pattern begins to play, the first thing (well, almost) it 
> does is to send a program change message on all 32 channels loading up 
> the correct presets you saved with the Pattern.
>
> That's what I'm having trouble with; I always have to scroll around 
> and load the right sounds with each pattern.  My MIDI mapping remains 
> intact but the presets do not.

> If you're saving the Presets 
> to new locations, and not resaving the Pattern too, the XL-7 will still 
> referrence the older locations upon playback (if it's left the edit 
> buffer).

More accurately (I recall - could be wrong): when you save a preset to
a new location, the current pattern's preset program number is updated
to point at the new location. If you don't save the pattern, the old
version of it will point at the old preset.

Aside: I notice that, if a pattern is saved to a new location, it's
still marked as dirty in the old location. This is not something I've
seen on any other MIDI device.

> That's what I'm having trouble with; I always have to scroll around and 
> load the right sounds with each pattern.

Scroll around, select the right presets, and then save the
pattern. When you come back to it, the preset selections should be
right.

-- 

  nick rothwell -- composition, systems, performance -- http://www.cassiel.com
  upcoming gig at cybersonica, london, june 5th  -- http://www.cybersonica.org

Well, yes and no.  If you have midi data already recorded, then just 
change to the Preset you want and resave the pattern.  If you want to load 
up a specific Preset on an unused track (to play live for instance), then 
you would need to do as you suggest and create "dummy data" in order for 
the pattern to call up that Preset correctly.  Or, you could just insert a 
PC message at the beginning of the Pattern.

rEalm




So, if you want to change preset assignments you need to feed the pattern 
new track data; just record something on the track, even if it's just 
dummy data for you to go back and delete.  Gotcha.  Startin' to see the 
forest. Or the trees, whichever.

Hey nice combo I must say that's the E5000 and the XL, I am using 
the same combo for all my sounds at the moment and I find it endless.

I have all ten of the basic sample cds from emu and there is alot 
there that i find super sweet.  I have been trying to figure out a 
simple way of setting up the controllers on the xl to tweak out the 
sounds on the e5000 with out having to set up each program one at a 
time.

Ps you shoud upgrad to the new os for the e5000 the controller 
numbers go higher and you may need this to get full use out of the 
xl. I think it's 4.61 by the way.


Peace and enjoy

Mike G.