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List of questions.

List of questions.

2001-09-27 by beat_rebel@yahoo.com

I do not yet own an XL-7 yet but I've been researching it and am very 
excited about the posibility of buying it. It is currently winning in 
its race against the RS7000 to win my favor. I am very much encouraged 
by the E-MU techs on this board. If you guys could address each of 
these questions it would help a lot.

1. What are the drum loop intsraments? Their name implies a sample of 
a drum pattern. That would seem really wierd to have as a basic
voice. 
What am I missing.

2. When a track sends to muliple MIDI chanels, does it send the same 
data to all of them? Could you sequence a complete 16 part pattern on 
each track and then solo each of the tracks? Not that I'd want to...

3. I see that the XL-1 presets have been provided for XL-7 users. I 
thought the two units had the exact same ROM. Are the instraments the 
same and only the presets are different? Is the XL-7 ROM enhanced
some 
how. How does the other Proteous ROMs compare?

4. Adding a ROM doesn't increase total user presets unless it's a 
flash ROM, right?

5. Tell me, when affects are aplied, do they affect all chanels sent 
to the main outs? That would be pretty wack!

Thanks in advance. Keep up the good work.

Beat Rebel

Re: [xl7] List of questions.

2001-09-27 by Sean Wilhelmsen

beat_rebel@... wrote:
> 
> I do not yet own an XL-7 yet but I've been researching it and am very
> excited about the posibility of buying it. It is currently winning in
> its race against the RS7000 to win my favor. I am very much encouraged
> 
> by the E-MU techs on this board. If you guys could address each of
> these questions it would help a lot.
> 
> 1. What are the drum loop intsraments? Their name implies a sample of
> a drum pattern. That would seem really wierd to have as a basic
> voice.
> What am I missing.

I believe you are referring to the MP-7 sound set. There are a few drum
loop snippets on this ROM. At first glance it make seem like a waste,
but these little snippets are great for adding a more live feel to your
pattern. Since you use them as snippets, they can be used with a wider
variety of tempos. Played up in pitch, these snippets are great for Drum
and Bass. The few that exist are very useful. Actually, we will have
some MP-7 patterns (as downloads) up on our web site in the next week
that show these samples off very well. 


> 
> 2. When a track sends to muliple MIDI chanels, does it send the same
> data to all of them? 

Yes, if you channelize that track. I.E. assign that track to MIDI 1-16A,
or MIDI 1-16B



Could you sequence a complete 16 part pattern on
> each track and then solo each of the tracks? Not that I'd want to...

Yes. Here you would assign the track not to channelize. The same screen
were you can Assign a MIDI channel per track you can also assign that
track to be Multi A or Multi B. Your one track for 16 tracks scenario is
very useful. This allows you to bounce tracks to others allowing you one
finger muting on groups of parts. Also, since a tracks can be internal,
external or both having the ability to merge MIDI data on one track
allows you take advantage of the "7's" sequencer's 64 MIDI channel capability.


> 
> 3. I see that the XL-1 presets have been provided for XL-7 users. I
> thought the two units had the exact same ROM. Are the instraments the
> same and only the presets are different? Is the XL-7 ROM enhanced
> some
> how. How does the other Proteous ROMs compare?

They do use the same ROM samples and instruments. The Presets are
different as well as their bank ID.


> 
> 4. Adding a ROM doesn't increase total user presets unless it's a
> flash ROM, right?

Each ROM that is added brings along its factory presets (typically 3-4
banks of new presets). User presets are not added. The "7" come standard
with 512 user preset locations. Adding flash Memory boards do allow you
to copy banks to them, thus giving you more user preset locations.

> 
> 5. Tell me, when affects are aplied, do they affect all chanels sent
> to the main outs? That would be pretty wack!

There are Two effects processors in the 7's.

Effect A (typically reverb type) and Effect B (typically chorus or delay type)


There are four stereo busses.

Each buss has an effect percentage amount for the A and B effect.

Here's an example of what it looks like;

FXA- Reverb
send 1  0%
send 2 10%
send 3 20%
send 4 50%

FXB - DualTap 1/3
send 1  0
send 2  0%
send 3  5%
send 4 50%


As you can see, I assigned send 1 to be completely dry (no effects). So,
any Channel that I want to be dry I would assign their output routing to
send 1. If I want just a little reverb and no delay on a channel I'd
assign it to send 2.  
For current users, this is all found under Global. Each FX setup and
routing are saved within the pattern. This allows you to have different
FX setups and routing setups per Pattern. 


sean at e-mu / ensoniq

Re: List of questions. The sequel.

2001-09-28 by beat_rebel@yahoo.com

Thank you for the info. Can I have seconds?

> > 1. What are the drum loop instraments? Their name implies a
sample 
of a drum pattern. That would seem really wierd to have as a basic 
voice. What am I missing.
 
> I believe you are referring to the MP-7 sound set. There are a few 
drum loop snippets on this ROM. At first glance it make seem like a 
waste, but these little snippets are great for adding a more live
feel  
to your pattern. Since you use them as snippets, they can be used
with  
a wider variety of tempos. Played up in pitch, these snippets are 
great for Drum and Bass. The few that exist are very useful.
Actually,  
we will have some MP-7 patterns (as downloads) up on our web site 
in the next week that show these samples off very well.

I am actually refering to the XL-7. Samples 140 ~ 191 are 
labeled Looped Perc 1 ~ Looped Perc 52. I am eager to see what
they're  
like. I still find the concept odd but it does suggest some 
experimentation with new sonic possabilities.

Are they complete drum set loops i.e. kick, snare, hi-hat, etc. or
are 
they single instraments i.e. hi-hat only?

How are they layed out on the keyboard?

Is each key a different sample or a different pitch of the same 
sample?

How do they match up with different BPMs, automatically?

> > Could you sequence a complete 16 part pattern on each track and 
then solo each of the tracks? Not that I'd want to...
 
> Yes. Here you would assign the track not to channelize. The same 
screen were you can Assign a MIDI channel per track you can also 
assign that track to be Multi A or Multi B. Your one track for 16 
tracks scenario is very useful. This allows you to bounce tracks to 
others allowing you one finger muting on groups of parts. Also, since 
a tracks can be internal, external or both having the ability to
merge 
MIDI data on one track allows you take advantage of the 
"7's" sequencer's 64 MIDI channel capability.
 
You meen 32 MIDI channels, right?

> > 3. I see that the XL-1 presets have been provided for XL-7 users. 
I thought the two units had the exact same ROM. Are the instraments 
the same and only the presets are different? Is the XL-7 ROM enhanced 
some how. How does the other Proteous ROMs compare?
 
> They do use the same ROM samples and instruments. The Presets are
different as well as their bank ID.

Some of the other posts suggest that the XL-1 Presets are layed out
on 
the Quick Edit knobs differently than on the XL-7. If I get the
Techno 
ROM, how will the Presets compare to the XL-7? Will the Quick Edit 
knobs be layed out slightly differently?
 
> > 4. Adding a ROM doesn't increase total user presets unless it's a 
flash ROM, right?

> Each ROM that is added brings along its factory presets (typically 
3-4 banks of new presets). User presets are not added. The "7" come 
standard with 512 user preset locations. Adding flash Memory boards
do  
allow you to copy banks to them, thus giving you more user preset 
locations.
 
Does E-MU offer ROM creation services for us poor folk who can't 
afford the ultra-sampler. I mean, can I send E-MU a CD of samples and 
have them burn them on a ROM for me. That's asking a bit much, but I 
gotta ask.

> > 5. Tell me, when affects are aplied, do they affect all chanels 
sent to the main outs? That would be pretty wack!

> There are Two effects processors in the 7's. Effect A (typically 
reverb type) and Effect B (typically chorus or delay type)
> There are four stereo busses. Each buss has an effect percentage 
amount for the A and B effect.
> Here's an example of what it looks like;
> FXA- Reverb
> send 1  0%
> send 2 10%
> send 3 20%
> send 4 50%
> FXB - DualTap 1/3
> send 1  0
> send 2  0%
> send 3  5%
> send 4 50%
> As you can see, I assigned send 1 to be completely dry (no
effects).  
So, any Channel that I want to be dry I would assign their output 
routing to send 1. If I want just a little reverb and no delay on a 
channel I'd assign it to send 2.
> For current users, this is all found under Global. Each FX setup
and 
routing are saved within the pattern. This allows you to have 
different FX setups and routing setups per Pattern.

Cool. I can work with that. I've got more questions, though.

Can the effects proccesors affect more than 100% worth. I don't mean 
applying 120% to one effect channel. I mean 0% + 20% + 40% + 60% = 
120%. Does that make sense?

When you rout FXB -> FXA, are the parallel channels matched up or can 
you configure them in wierd ways?

The manuel mentions channels 2 & 3 sending the dry signels to the sub 
outs. Could you elaberate on how this works. I don't yet own a mixer 
and was hoping to use the XL-7's nifty effect loop mix feature for a 
make-shift mixer until I can afford one. Will I need to wait until I 
get a mixer before I can take advantage of both my other gear and all 
of the XL-7's effects abilities?

Re: [xl7] Re: List of questions. The sequel.

2001-09-28 by Jonathan El-Bizri

>
>> Does E-MU offer ROM creation services for us poor folk who can't
>> afford the ultra-sampler. I mean, can I send E-MU a CD of samples and
>> have them burn them on a ROM for me. That's asking a bit much, but I
>>; gotta ask.
>
>Sorry we don't.
>
However, that might be something we can do here on the list; I have access to an ultra.

 

Re: [xl7] Re: List of questions. The sequel.

2001-09-28 by Sean Wilhelmsen

beat_rebel@... wrote:
> 
> Thank you for the info. Can I have seconds?
> 
> > > 1. What are the drum loop instraments? Their name implies a
> sample
> of a drum pattern. That would seem really wierd to have as a basic
> voice. What am I missing.
> 
> > I believe you are referring to the MP-7 sound set. There are a few
> drum loop snippets on this ROM. At first glance it make seem like a
> waste, but these little snippets are great for adding a more live
> feel
> to your pattern. Since you use them as snippets, they can be used
> with
> a wider variety of tempos. Played up in pitch, these snippets are
> great for Drum and Bass. The few that exist are very useful.
> Actually,
> we will have some MP-7 patterns (as downloads) up on our web site
> in the next week that show these samples off very well.
> 
> I am actually refering to the XL-7. Samples 140 ~ 191 are
> labeled Looped Perc 1 ~ Looped Perc 52. I am eager to see what
> they're
> like. I still find the concept odd but it does suggest some
> experimentation with new sonic possabilities.
> 

I Understand what you are referring to now. Those are not drum loops,
but actual drum samples (kicks, snares, hi hats etc.) looped and pitched
correctly to form useable pitched wave forms. They are great for create
aggressive metallic synth patches.




> 
> > > Could you sequence a complete 16 part pattern on each track and
> then solo each of the tracks? Not that I'd want to...
> 
> > Yes. Here you would assign the track not to channelize. The same
> screen were you can Assign a MIDI channel per track you can also
> assign that track to be Multi A or Multi B. Your one track for 16
> tracks scenario is very useful. This allows you to bounce tracks to
> others allowing you one finger muting on groups of parts. Also, since
> a tracks can be internal, external or both having the ability to
> merge
> MIDI data on one track allows you take advantage of the
> "7's" sequencer's 64 MIDI channel capability.
> 
> You meen 32 MIDI channels, right?
 

I mean 64. 32 internal and 32 external.


> 
> > > 3. I see that the XL-1 presets have been provided for XL-7 users.
> I thought the two units had the exact same ROM. Are the instraments
> the same and only the presets are different? Is the XL-7 ROM enhanced
> some how. How does the other Proteous ROMs compare?
> 
> > They do use the same ROM samples and instruments. The Presets are
> different as well as their bank ID.
> 
> Some of the other posts suggest that the XL-1 Presets are layed out
> on
> the Quick Edit knobs differently than on the XL-7. If I get the
> Techno
> ROM, how will the Presets compare to the XL-7? Will the Quick Edit
> knobs be layed out slightly differently?

Yes they will be slightly different but completely functional.



> 
> > > 4. Adding a ROM doesn't increase total user presets unless it's a
> flash ROM, right?
> 
> > Each ROM that is added brings along its factory presets (typically
> 3-4 banks of new presets). User presets are not added. The "7" come
> standard with 512 user preset locations. Adding flash Memory boards
> do
> allow you to copy banks to them, thus giving you more user preset
> locations.
> 
> Does E-MU offer ROM creation services for us poor folk who can't
> afford the ultra-sampler. I mean, can I send E-MU a CD of samples and
> have them burn them on a ROM for me. That's asking a bit much, but I
> gotta ask.

Sorry we don't.



> 
> > > 5. Tell me, when affects are aplied, do they affect all chanels
> sent to the main outs? That would be pretty wack!
> 
> > There are Two effects processors in the 7's. Effect A (typically
> reverb type) and Effect B (typically chorus or delay type)
> > There are four stereo busses. Each buss has an effect percentage
> amount for the A and B effect.
> > Here's an example of what it looks like;
> > FXA- Reverb
> > send 1  0%
> > send 2 10%
> > send 3 20%
> > send 4 50%
> > FXB - DualTap 1/3
> > send 1  0
> > send 2  0%
> > send 3  5%
> > send 4 50%
> > As you can see, I assigned send 1 to be completely dry (no
> effects).
> So, any Channel that I want to be dry I would assign their output
> routing to send 1. If I want just a little reverb and no delay on a
> channel I'd assign it to send 2.
> > For current users, this is all found under Global. Each FX setup
> and
> routing are saved within the pattern. This allows you to have
> different FX setups and routing setups per Pattern.
> 
> Cool. I can work with that. I've got more questions, though.
> 
> Can the effects proccesors affect more than 100% worth. I don't mean
> applying 120% to one effect channel. I mean 0% + 20% + 40% + 60% =
> 120%. Does that make sense?
> 

Yes, each send buss can go up to 100%.


> When you rout FXB -> FXA, are the parallel channels matched up or can
> you configure them in wierd ways?

This allows you to rout FX B effects into FX A in order for them to work
in a serial fashion. There are two configurations, Parallel and FX A to
FX B for Serial. 


> 
> The manuel mentions channels 2 & 3 sending the dry signels to the sub
> outs. Could you elaberate on how this works. I don't yet own a mixer
> and was hoping to use the XL-7's nifty effect loop mix feature for a
> make-shift mixer until I can afford one. Will I need to wait until I
> get a mixer before I can take advantage of both my other gear and all
> of the XL-7's effects abilities?

When using the extra outputs as outputs then the send that is hardwired
to that output is bussed there dry. Without a mixer, this is irrelevant
to your setup. 

Yes, you can run other devices into the Xl-7 and have there signal pass
through it to the Main outputs. Effects can not be applied to external devices.

sean at e-mu  / ensoniq

Re: List of questions. The sequel.

2001-09-28 by beat_rebel@yahoo.com

--- In xl7@y..., "Jonathan El-Bizri" <sserendipity@n...> wrote:
> > 
> >> Does E-MU offer ROM creation services for us poor folk who can't
> >> afford the ultra-sampler. I mean, can I send E-MU a CD of samples 
and
> >> have them burn them on a ROM for me. That's asking a bit much, 
but I
> >> gotta ask.
> >
> >Sorry we don't.
> >
> 
> However, that might be something we can do here on the list; I have 
access to an ultra.

I'll keep that in mind. I haven't even bought my XL-7 yet. Plus I'd 
probably want the techno ROM first.