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Trigger button function

Trigger button function

2001-08-13 by radside1@home.com

I am considering getting the MP-7. I have several questions 
concerning various functions.

1.  After recording a pattern consisting of several tracks.  Are you 
able to use the trigger buttons to trigger that pattern in much the 
same way as a sampler could trigger a sample loop.  For instance, 
continously pressing the button in trigger mode would retrigger the 
pattern from beat one.

2.  How are the effects?  I welcome subjective opinions.

3.  How do you save data?  Midi dump, to a PC harddrive via the host 
connection, or both?

4.  Is the host connection the same as a network card connection?

5.  Does ver 1.1 fix the pattern-flow bug? 

I am sure that I will have more questions to follow.  I don't live 
near a music store (Monterey)that has them in stock so I have not had 
the opportunity to demo one.  The nearest store is Guitar Center in 
San Jose and they did not have any demo units out.  Thanks for your 
help.

Rick

Re: Trigger button function

2001-08-13 by sserendipity@newsfeeds.com

I am considering getting the MP-7. I have several questions 
concerning various functions.

>1.  After recording a pattern consisting of several tracks.  Are you 
>able to use the trigger buttons to trigger that pattern in much the 
>same way as a sampler could trigger a sample loop.  For instance, 
>continously pressing the button in trigger mode would retrigger the 
>pattern from beat one.

The trigger are latch triggers - they'll play the part of the track 
that is recorded to play at that beat.

>2.  How are the effects?  I welcome subjective opinions.

It is the standard 'master' style emu effects section, the same as 
the emu and ultraEmu (my history knowledge only goes back that 
far :>) - one reverb, one delay. Clean sounding but sparse. (I think 
this is a good thing, since unit with good effects usually lack a 
little in the actual sound of the samples, such as the Korg keyboards)

If you want an effect drenched sound, you'll want to use the sends. 
I've set up mine as a pair of mono sends (Note to Emu - 4 mono sends 
are >much< more useful than 2 stereo ones)

3.  How do you save data?  Midi dump, to a PC harddrive via the host 
connection, or both?

The host connnection is not functional yet, though it shows up on the 
pc - I assume emu hasn't released the drivers for it, AFAIK. I'm 
definitely waiting for it. The emu loader program is ugly, but mostly 
functional. There is definitely room for improvement. Transfering 
from a sequencer is quite a PITA at this point for me, but I have 
managed it.

Instruction, and information about the process and format of the midi 
file is badly needed - I couldn't find anything on the original cd.

4.  Is the host connection the same as a network card connection?

I'm not sure what you mean. It's a USB port. I would be very 
surprised if it was used for anything more than a midi port. 

5.  Does ver 1.1 fix the pattern-flow bug? 

Yes. There are a number of other bugs and wiggeties I have found in 
the last week of playing with it, but nothing that would stop a show, 
or probably be noticed by anyone but me, for that matter. I'll keep 
the group informed, as I keep adding tools to my rig, and writing.

>I am sure that I will have more questions to follow.  I don't live 
>near a music store (Monterey)that has them in stock so I have not 
had 
>the opportunity to demo one.  The nearest store is Guitar Center in 
>San Jose and they did not have any demo units out.  Thanks for your 
>help.

Gelb music in Redwood city has a XL-7 and an MP-7. AFAIK they both 
have the pattern flow bug OS, but you can try them out. Or you could 
come by my place - I'm in Palo Alto.

sserendipity

Re: Trigger button function

2001-08-13 by radside1@home.com

Thanks for the info.  I have two points that I am still fuzzy on.  

1.  In order to save a sequence/patch data, you must play this data 
in real time into another sequencer and vice versa to load data.  Is 
this right, or is there a midi bulk dump function.

2.  In the brochure, the "to host" jack looked like an oversized 
phone jack, the same kind used for PC network connections.  Has this 
been changed to a USB port for the shipping models?

Thanks for your time.

Rick

--- In xl7@y..., sserendipity@n... wrote:
> 
> I am considering getting the MP-7. I have several questions 
> concerning various functions.
> 
> >1.  After recording a pattern consisting of several tracks.  Are 
you 
> >able to use the trigger buttons to trigger that pattern in much 
the 
> >same way as a sampler could trigger a sample loop.  For instance, 
> >continously pressing the button in trigger mode would retrigger 
the 
> >pattern from beat one.
> 
> The trigger are latch triggers - they'll play the part of the track 
> that is recorded to play at that beat.
> 
> >2.  How are the effects?  I welcome subjective opinions.
> 
> It is the standard 'master' style emu effects section, the same as 
> the emu and ultraEmu (my history knowledge only goes back that 
> far :>) - one reverb, one delay. Clean sounding but sparse. (I 
think 
> this is a good thing, since unit with good effects usually lack a 
> little in the actual sound of the samples, such as the Korg 
keyboards)
> 
> If you want an effect drenched sound, you'll want to use the sends. 
> I've set up mine as a pair of mono sends (Note to Emu - 4 mono 
sends 
> are >much< more useful than 2 stereo ones)
> 
> 3.  How do you save data?  Midi dump, to a PC harddrive via the 
host 
> connection, or both?
> 
> The host connnection is not functional yet, though it shows up on 
the 
> pc - I assume emu hasn't released the drivers for it, AFAIK. I'm 
> definitely waiting for it. The emu loader program is ugly, but 
mostly 
> functional. There is definitely room for improvement. Transfering 
> from a sequencer is quite a PITA at this point for me, but I have 
> managed it.
> 
> Instruction, and information about the process and format of the 
midi 
> file is badly needed - I couldn't find anything on the original cd.
> 
> 4.  Is the host connection the same as a network card connection?
> 
> I'm not sure what you mean. It's a USB port. I would be very 
> surprised if it was used for anything more than a midi port. 
> 
> 5.  Does ver 1.1 fix the pattern-flow bug? 
> 
> Yes. There are a number of other bugs and wiggeties I have found in 
> the last week of playing with it, but nothing that would stop a 
show, 
> or probably be noticed by anyone but me, for that matter. I'll keep 
> the group informed, as I keep adding tools to my rig, and writing.
> 
> >I am sure that I will have more questions to follow.  I don't live 
> >near a music store (Monterey)that has them in stock so I have not 
> had 
> >the opportunity to demo one.  The nearest store is Guitar Center 
in 
> >San Jose and they did not have any demo units out.  Thanks for 
your 
> >help.
> 
> Gelb music in Redwood city has a XL-7 and an MP-7. AFAIK they both 
> have the pattern flow bug OS, but you can try them out. Or you 
could 
> come by my place - I'm in Palo Alto.
> 
> sserendipity

Re: Trigger button function

2001-08-13 by sserendipity@newsfeeds.com

> 1.  In order to save a sequence/patch data, you must play this data 
> in real time into another sequencer and vice versa to load data.  
Is 
> this right, or is there a midi bulk dump function.
> 

There's patch loader/dumper software program; easier than sorting 
through bulk dump data, or recording it 'live'. 

I'm still getting the hang of the midi data it's spits out, though 
building tracks of midi notes is no problem.

> 2.  In the brochure, the "to host" jack looked like an oversized 
> phone jack, the same kind used for PC network connections.  Has 
this 
> been changed to a USB port for the shipping models?
> 

In the pdf's I saw, it was always a USB port. The peripheral end of a 
USB port does look a little like a phone jack, in a line diagram.

Re: Trigger button function

2001-08-13 by radside1@home.com

Thanks for the info; I get it now.

Rick  

--- In xl7@y..., sserendipity@n... wrote:
> 
> > 1.  In order to save a sequence/patch data, you must play this 
data 
> > in real time into another sequencer and vice versa to load data.  
> Is 
> > this right, or is there a midi bulk dump function.
> > 
> 
> There's patch loader/dumper software program; easier than sorting 
> through bulk dump data, or recording it 'live'. 
> 
> I'm still getting the hang of the midi data it's spits out, though 
> building tracks of midi notes is no problem.
> 
> > 2.  In the brochure, the "to host" jack looked like an oversized 
> > phone jack, the same kind used for PC network connections.  Has 
> this 
> > been changed to a USB port for the shipping models?
> > 
> 
> In the pdf's I saw, it was always a USB port. The peripheral end of 
a 
> USB port does look a little like a phone jack, in a line diagram.

Re: [xl7] Re: Trigger button function

2001-08-13 by Jonathan El-Bizri

It's a long shot, but I was wondering if anyone here knew of a good source
of midi files of contemporary songs, specifically urban stuff like Little
Missy's 'Get your freak on' and other MTV urban top40; I want to make them into messed up cover versions for playing out with.

The songs are simple enough - I'll probably just transcribe them out myself,
but if they are lying around on the web for the taking, it would save me an
evening I could spend being more creative.

Thanks!

sserendipity