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2016-09-06 by smw-mail@...

Hello!
Today, I just became a proud owner of Proteus 2500 :-)
Right now I am searching for default patches... and would like to join.
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First of all, congratulations and welcome!!

Patches (aka presets in E-Mu's terminology) are on ROMS. Generally when the E-Mu's are new, the user presets contain copies of the factory presets from the basic ROM (aka Sound ROM). If you want, you can use the front panel menu system to copy banks from ROM to User banks. A few years ago, Sean from E-Mu converted the P2K 12-controller presets (8 banks) to presets for the P2500 ROM. They should be in the files section. Both the P2K ROM and the P2500 ROM have the same samples/multisamples, so you can play the original P2K presets using the P2500 ROM. Many people find the P2500 presets superior; however, I have found a number from the converted P2K banks quite nice and have used them.

If the previous owner (or is yours new?) wiped out the factory demo sequences (songs and patterns) from the P2500, they should be in the files section as well.

You might also be interested in the P2K Yahoo group and the P2500 tutorial section over at gearslutz.

Steve

Re: To New User

2016-09-06 by np2qved3yjrk6vsg2ahsfz74vbh66tspqzi4z4ow@...

Thanks for warm welcome and clarification :-)

There are some songs/patterns/arps present in the machine. When I first booted up the P2500, I was horryfied to see that there are only 4 banks of ROM presets and 4 banks of USER. There is a youtube series showing all of the composer ROM presets (8 banks). Does that mean the factory P2500 should be full of fresh presets (both ROM and USER banks)? As I understand it, the previous owner probably rewrote the USER banks with the ROM banks? The current ROM and USER banks contain exact copies of one another.

Anyway, I will look around and see if I can find anything useful. So far, my brain is exploding from the possibilities of this machine. It is such a versatile, good sounding and flexible hardware! Especially love the sequencer :-)

T

Re: [xl7] Re: To New User

2016-09-08 by Matt

Use it to sequence the other equipment you have :) it sounds like you will need a mixer or audio interface soon!

On Sep 8, 2016 2:13 PM, "np2qved3yjrk6vsg2ahsfz74vbh66tspqzi4z4ow@... [xl7]" <xl7@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Thank you very much for clarification :-)

I was just confused when I got the machine and hoped to find some good-sounding presets that I heard from the 8-bank-composer-ROM. If it is possible to download and manage patches, then I'm fine with that.
Discovering the synth engine will be my pleasure. It might seem daunting at first (especially working with the two line display), but the more difficult the system is, the more fun I have with it :-)

Do you personally think that the P2500 (or Proteus line in general) can be an all around machine? Would you, or have you already pair it with any other synth? I have ESQ1, Blofeld, P2500 and V-Verb, which is more than enough in my opinion, but when the gear acquisition syndrome kicks in, I would be happy to try out something new.

T

Re: [xl7] Re: To New User

2016-09-08 by Daniel Forró

Combination with some other machines is always good, especially when  
they are based on different type of sound synthesis. Blofeld is good  
from this point of view with its combination of analog modeling,  
wavetable synthesis and sample import.

So why not to try out something old?

I miss some Japanese products in your collection. For example any  
Yamaha FM synth, Casio PD/iPD, Korg or Yamaha vector synthesizer,   
Kawai K5000 series with additive synthesis, or some Roland LA synth.

Of course you can also combine your hardware instruments with software  
synths and samplers.

Daniel Forro

On Sep 9, 2016, at 6:12 AM, np2qved3yjrk6vsg2ahsfz74vbh66tspqzi4z4ow@... 
  [xl7] wrote:
>  I have ESQ1, Blofeld, P2500 and V-Verb, which is more than enough  
> in my opinion, but when the gear acquisition syndrome kicks in, I  
> would be happy to try out something new.
>

Re: To New User

2016-09-09 by napravobg@...

As to your question regarding the P2500 as 'all things to all men' :-) I would add a few observations.
IMO the 25K is amazingly versatile (I have two which are maxed out with extra ROMs) as well as a PX7 also with full ROM compliment including Virtuoso Orch..
I've connected the EMUs into one big system, via the insert in's and out's and have ventured towards analogue modular territory, with some realy (in my opinion) convincing sonic results. The modulation sources and destinations of the 2500 are huge and amazingly versatile, as are the filters. If I want to, I can easily set up random noise generation and bleeps and squeeks and squarks and drones , with filters and envelopes opening up and closing all day long.. Sometimes I think it very hard to tell that these almost random and 'musique concrete' results don't come from an immensely expensive purely analogue Eurorack modular system..
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For Hammond, Oberheim and and ARP sounds, I bought a Casio XW-P1 (great value and fun synth) which I think compliments the 2500 superbly, and then an M-Audio Venom. (again rompler sound sources) Venoms go very cheap on e-Bay nowadays, and the Venom's Oberheim-like analogue brass-type sounds are excellent, (as are many of the other onboard sounds) and the very versatile editing software is easy to use.

The Venom doesn;'t have to be all grit and snarl, but of course it can be so, if you want. I have old school Kurzweil modules, also, a K2000r and two K1000r's and a K1200 88 x note synth, which I use as a master controller, and which has excellent aftertouch. I also have a Korg Trinity keyboard and a Triton rack, which are different again. The Kurzweils are very different to the 2500 (and to the Korgs) and are valuable for IMO expensive sounds, especially when compared to the very 'in your face ' Venom.

Recently, I bought Air Instruments 'Loom' as an additive virtual digital synth, and find that this addition gives me vast new collections of sounds that the P2500 cannot achieve.
However, as an all round and immensely editable rompler-based synth, there is IMO none better than the P2500. It was designed decades before its time, and is an amazing synth even today. EMU always knew how to do it and they did it superbly with their flagship 2500. Good luck with yours....

regards

richard
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