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Controlling the sequencer externally?

Controlling the sequencer externally?

2016-02-09 by Andre Lewis

I know that we now have prodatum for the patches, I was wondering if it's possible to start/stop recording remotely, change the active channel remotely and erase tracks remotely. �I have my XL7 rack mounted so I would love to be able to use an external keyboard to do all the usual sequencer needs.

Thanks!

Re: [xl7] Controlling the sequencer externally?

2016-02-09 by Andre Lewis

Ahhh this looked so promising, at least for general purpose things. �I don't see a way to turn on or off recording or set the recording mode, erase pattern, quantize pattern or any of the other XL family line of sequencer commands. � �

I think Prodatum has most of the general purpose items from the Proteus family in there and it works pretty well. �Just no sequencer hooks.

Hrmmm

Re: [xl7] Controlling the sequencer externally?

2016-02-10 by smw-mail@...

As a started, you might want to look at some of the demos here: Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

 

If you look at the demos, you can get the basics of (1) turning remote control mode on and off and (2) doing all sorts of creative things.


Again, if I recall correctly, sending sysex commands is independent of remote control mode, that is, you can send commands (such as changing a set 16 midi knob assignments--MidiA -> MidiP*) without being in remote control mode.  


Embedded sysex requires the use of a sequencer (or DAW) that lets you edit, compile, and save standard midi files which then need to be uploaded using e-loader. I haven't tried it with e-mu gear, but possibly midi-ox and similar tools might be used to hand assemble/create sysex strings. If you can do it in a controller, that should work, too.


Steve  



Re: [xl7] Controlling the sequencer externally?

2016-02-10 by smw-mail@...

PPS: I played around a while ago with Jazz-Soft--a tool for using a browser with mid gear.  It just dawned on me that you might be able to create a personal/customized html file to send sysex commands to midi gear if it is connected to a computer.  Even if ultimately you want to have the sysex commands coming from your keyboard, it might be possible to test the sysex chains via a browser.


Not sure if I wrote about tests with Jazz-Soft here or elsewhere.  At one point I was exploring the possibility of having a web-based utility that would do some of what e-loader does (and other functions--such as my syxer utility, a parameterizer for generating presets, etc. ).


I seemed to recall posting the results of tests somewhere, but no one was interested then.


MIDI Input Viewer from Dr. Steve


I see that I had buttons for remote control on and off. I also was able to obtain patterns in sysex format by requesting a song and sending acks.  As I recall, I just did a hard coded pattern--no inputs for selecting pattern bank and slot.  It was a test of concept kind of thing. If people want to develop this further, I'd be happy to share what I know. Unfortunately, I no longer have time and energy to devote to develop something like this the way I imagine it can be used. Also, I cannot keep up with changes in html and other www consortium things.   

Re: [xl7] Controlling the sequencer externally?

2016-02-10 by Bruno

Thanks for mentioning Jazz-Soft - I didn't even know it exists!

2016-02-10 15:39 GMT+01:00 smw-mail@... [xl7] <xl7@yahoogroups.com>:


PPS: I played around a while ago with Jazz-Soft--a tool for using a browser with mid gear.  It just dawned on me that you might be able to create a personal/customized html file to send sysex commands to midi gear if it is connected to a computer.  Even if ultimately you want to have the sysex commands coming from your keyboard, it might be possible to test the sysex chains via a browser.


Not sure if I wrote about tests with Jazz-Soft here or elsewhere.  At one point I was exploring the possibility of having a web-based utility that would do some of what e-loader does (and other functions--such as my syxer utility, a parameterizer for generating presets, etc. ).


I seemed to recall posting the results of tests somewhere, but no one was interested then.


MIDI Input Viewer from Dr. Steve


I see that I had buttons for remote control on and off. I also was able to obtain patterns in sysex format by requesting a song and sending acks.  As I recall, I just did a hard coded pattern--no inputs for selecting pattern bank and slot.  It was a test of concept kind of thing. If people want to develop this further, I'd be happy to share what I know. Unfortunately, I no longer have time and energy to devote to develop something like this the way I imagine it can be used. Also, I cannot keep up with changes in html and other www consortium things.   




Re: [xl7] Controlling the sequencer externally?

2016-02-10 by Andre Lewis

Steve you are amazing! �I've been building a midi patchbay in Node.js to run on an itty bitty raspberry pi. �Looks like I am duplicating a little bit of what jazz-midi is doing, with the plugins. �
My goal is really to map everything to networking and OSC, then just generate OSC commands from the browser, so I won't need plugins. �But yeah, whatever you happen to have kicking around would be great!

Andre

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PPS: I played around a while ago with Jazz-Soft--a tool for using a browser with mid gear.� It just dawned on me that you might be able to create a personal/customized html file to send sysex commands to midi gear if it is connected to a computer.� Even if ultimately you want to have the sysex commands coming from your keyboard, it might be possible to test the sysex chains via a browser.

Not sure if I wrote about tests with Jazz-Soft�here or elsewhere.� At one point I was exploring the possibility of having a web-based utility that would do some of what e-loader does (and other functions--such as my syxer utility, a parameterizer for generating presets, etc.�).

I seemed to recall posting the results of tests somewhere, but no one was interested then.


I see that I had buttons for remote control on and off. I also was able to obtain patterns in sysex format by requesting a song and sending acks.� As I recall, I just did a hard coded pattern--no inputs for selecting pattern bank and slot.� It was a test of concept kind of thing. If�people want to develop this further, I'd be happy to share what I know. Unfortunately, I no longer have time and energy to devote to develop something like this the way I imagine it can be used. Also, I cannot keep up with changes in html and other www consortium things.���