Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

I'm fairly new at this machine (MP7) and a little confused with beats mode 
but I seem to find zero presets under 'bts'. I have a composer ROM 
installed as well as MP7 and see no presets for bts with either one. Do you 
need to create bts presets? Somewhere to download them? Have new os 
installed and anxious to try this out but getting nowhere fast.

The MP-7 has the same ROM (#9062 Pure Phatt)from the Mo' Phatt module 
which had BTS but they(E-MU)changed the ROM ID for the MP-7 which 
changed all of the BTS presets to kit presets on the Command 
Stations.  If you were to get the X-Lead ROM or any other ROM that is 
sold separately, they(BTS) will now be available in your unit.

Later,

M2

--- In xl7@y..., heyrag@n... wrote:
> I'm fairly new at this machine (MP7) and a little confused with 
beats mode 
> but I seem to find zero presets under 'bts'. I have a composer ROM 
> installed as well as MP7 and see no presets for bts with either 
one. Do you 
> need to create bts presets? Somewhere to download them? Have new os 
> installed and anxious to try this out but getting nowhere fast.

I'm getting more annoyed each passing minute with this 0 bts presets 
business with the mp7 I find it incredible emu would release an OS in which 
3/4 of it deals with this "update" and seemingly forgets that 1/2 the 
machines it was targeted for do not have ANY BTS presets! No where to get 
them without buying another ROM?? If I'm wrong about how this is (or 
appears to be) they should , at the very least, provide the MP7 owners 
clear direction as to how and where to get what is needed so as to be able 
to utilize this feature. How about a little sign "MP7 owners need not 
apply" Think I'll reload OS 1.1, at least then I was blissfully unaware...

I'm getting more annoyed each passing minute with this 0 bts presets 
business with the mp7 I find it incredible emu would release an OS in which 
3/4 of it deals with this "update" and seemingly forgets that 1/2 the 
machines it was targeted for do not have ANY BTS presets! No where to get 
them without buying another ROM?? If I'm wrong about how this is (or 
appears to be) they should , at the very least, provide the MP7 owners 
clear direction as to how and where to get what is needed so as to be able 
to utilize this feature. How about a little sign "MP7 owners need not 
apply" Think I'll reload OS 1.1, at least then I was blissfully unaware...

If you download the Mo'phatt banks from the emu site, you will have 
bts presets, not too many presets to start with, but a good number 
of bts riffs.  The new bts audition riffs are found at the end of 
the standard mp-7 audition riffs (after kits-).

if you do get other roms (world), you can mix and match bts presets 
and riffs for some great results !!

-payntaraspen


--- In xl7@y..., "Jonathan El-Bizri" <sserendipity@n...> wrote:
> Have you downloaded the Mo'Phatt presets from the emu site? 
> 
> I have not tried this myself, but I would assume that they can 
access the beats presets.
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: heyrag@n... 
>   To: xl7@y... 
>   Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 4:37 PM
>   Subject: Re: [xl7] bts mode where??
> 
> 
>   I'm getting more annoyed each passing minute with this 0 bts 
presets 
>   business with the mp7 I find it incredible emu would release an 
OS in which 
>   3/4 of it deals with this "update" and seemingly forgets that 
1/2 the 
>   machines it was targeted for do not have ANY BTS presets! No 
where to get 
>   them without buying another ROM?? If I'm wrong about how this is 
(or 
>   appears to be) they should , at the very least, provide the MP7 
owners 
>   clear direction as to how and where to get what is needed so as 
to be able 
>   to utilize this feature. How about a little sign "MP7 owners 
need not 
>   apply" Think I'll reload OS 1.1, at least then I was blissfully 
unaware... 
> 
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I find it incredible emu would release an OS in which 3/4 of it deals with 
this "update" and seemingly forgets that 1/2 the machines it was targeted 
for do not have ANY BTS presets! 

>>>For clarification, BTS are not Presets, they are Audition Riffs!  The 
new OS contains quiet a few BTS patterns for you to use with ANY Preset. 
You do not need special BTS Presets in order to use the BTS mode, although 
admittedly some of them 'might' sound better, I have no idea.  Have you 
read the new FAQ?  I've put a whoel section in there on BTS, read that 
first and if you still have questions I'll be more than happy to help! <<<

rEalm

I have to agree with you, I know that alot of people where asking 
about them anb wanted to see em but I don't see myself putting them 
to much if any use.  The as rEalm has said "they are Audition 
Riffs!" and that is how i will use em.

This realy gets my goat due to the fact that it seems that when I 
have a pattern with a combination of 1. a preset with a very short 
decay and release time.  2.  a program change.  The presets with 
short decay get a longer decay for a second when i press the 
home/enter button.  This in some cases is the leed sound and all the 
hi hats that i am using to drive the track i am wrighting making it 
unrecordable for selling it!

i posted a little wile ago about this and got no responce from the 
the guys at E-MU.  The hole thing is verry dissapointing.  They 
assured me that this would not be a problem in this OS and it is the 
first thing i checked out and it still is not resolved.

mike

--- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> I find it incredible emu would release an OS in which 3/4 of it 
deals with 
> this "update" and seemingly forgets that 1/2 the machines it was 
targeted 
> for do not have ANY BTS presets! 
> 
> >>>For clarification, BTS are not Presets, they are Audition 
Riffs!  The 
> new OS contains quiet a few BTS patterns for you to use with ANY 
Preset. 
> You do not need special BTS Presets in order to use the BTS mode, 
although 
> admittedly some of them 'might' sound better, I have no idea.  
Have you 
> read the new FAQ?  I've put a whoel section in there on BTS, read 
that 
> first and if you still have questions I'll be more than happy to 
help! <<<
> 
> rEalm

You are talking about program changes between presets on a channel, no?  You
play a sound but only for a second, change sounds with a program change then
play a couple of sounds then change again?  Is this right?

-----Original Message-----
From: mikexl7 [mailto:mikexl7@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 5:54 AM
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [xl7] Re: bts mode where??+mikes rant


I have to agree with you, I know that alot of people where asking
about them anb wanted to see em but I don't see myself putting them
to much if any use.  The as rEalm has said "they are Audition
Riffs!" and that is how i will use em.

This realy gets my goat due to the fact that it seems that when I
have a pattern with a combination of 1. a preset with a very short
decay and release time.  2.  a program change.  The presets with
short decay get a longer decay for a second when i press the
home/enter button.  This in some cases is the leed sound and all the
hi hats that i am using to drive the track i am wrighting making it
unrecordable for selling it!

i posted a little wile ago about this and got no responce from the
the guys at E-MU.  The hole thing is verry dissapointing.  They
assured me that this would not be a problem in this OS and it is the
first thing i checked out and it still is not resolved.

mike

--- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> I find it incredible emu would release an OS in which 3/4 of it
deals with
> this "update" and seemingly forgets that 1/2 the machines it was
targeted
> for do not have ANY BTS presets!
>
> >>>For clarification, BTS are not Presets, they are Audition
Riffs!  The
> new OS contains quiet a few BTS patterns for you to use with ANY
Preset.
> You do not need special BTS Presets in order to use the BTS mode,
although
> admittedly some of them 'might' sound better, I have no idea.
Have you
> read the new FAQ?  I've put a whoel section in there on BTS, read
that
> first and if you still have questions I'll be more than happy to
help! <<<
>
> rEalm



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Well what I am usaly doing is making a modified version of a preset 
that starts at the begining of the next pattern.  so i can twek away 
to my hearts content and when i go to that new pattern all is where 
the next section of the song should be.  Think that makes sence.

changing presets usaly only at the begining of patterns.

Mike

--- In xl7@y..., "Andre Lewis" <andrel@s...> wrote:
> You are talking about program changes between presets on a 
channel, no?  You
> play a sound but only for a second, change sounds with a program 
change then
> play a couple of sounds then change again?  Is this right?
>

>I work with my mp7 and its seq similarly , that is often subtle 
>differences in the same seq as adding a drum roll or bringing new inst. in 
>or out for dynamics etc. I also experience timing delays (way too often) 
>in going from one seq to the next. I am almost 100% sure this has 
>something to do with the info at tic 0 or 1 (or both) See "event timing" 
>in manual, may be in the 1.18 addendum. Anyway, I found a fix for this 
>which has worked (don't claim to know why) for me. If you copy the pattern 
>that is giving you timing problems into an empty pattern and then copy 
>that new pattern back to the old spot, the problem goes away...a bit of a 
>pain but better than sloppy timing...hope you find relief.

Are you using OS 1.31?  That should have been fixed in the new OS...

rEalm





heyrag@...
04/10/02 04:45 AM
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>I work with my mp7 and its seq similarly , that is often subtle 
>differences in the same seq as adding a drum roll or bringing new inst. 
in 
>or out for dynamics etc. I also experience timing delays (way too often) 
>in going from one seq to the next. I am almost 100% sure this has 
>something to do with the info at tic 0 or 1 (or both) See "event timing" 
>in manual, may be in the 1.18 addendum. Anyway, I found a fix for this 
>which has worked (don't claim to know why) for me. If you copy the 
pattern 
>that is giving you timing problems into an empty pattern and then copy 
>that new pattern back to the old spot, the problem goes away...a bit of a 

>pain but better than sloppy timing...hope you find relief.



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