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I'm fairly new to the XL7 and I'm not sure of the capabilities of 
BTS and the sequencer.  Is it possible to record a BTS in a 
pattern?  For example I have a pattern with a BTS preset on track 2, 
with a BTS riff assigned to it from the preset edit menu.  I set the 
channel to 2 and hit record then bring in and out some of the BTS 
channels using the trigger buttons.  The BTS continues to play after 
I hit stop, and until I disable the Audition button.  When I hit 
play I hear all the elements of my pattern except the BTS.
Can anyone help?
Thanks,
- grimley.

What I've noticed when recording parts from BTS presets is that you 
have to record the note on and off messages in your sequence.  For 
example, I'm using a hi-hat pattern from a preset and when the 
sequencer is running, I trigger the part(note-on)and when the end of 
the song(section)is near, I have to hit the trigger button again(note-
off)or else the BTS sequencer will continue to run.

Later,

M2

--- In xl7@y..., "Jonathan El-Bizri" <sserendipity@n...> wrote:
> As far as I can tell, the Beats function only works when you stick 
to the channel the beats are on. Switch to another track/channel and 
it you have a regualr drum kit. If you want to incorporate the beats 
in your stuff, I think we're going to have to 'resample' them through 
the midi I/O.
> 
> The corrolary question would be - how does one now access a BTS 
patch without trggering the BTS? Is the only way to do this by 
disabling the BTS riff in the preset? 
> 
> bIz
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: grimleyj2000 
>   To: xl7@y... 
>   Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 10:45 PM
>   Subject: [xl7] Recording BTS triggers
> 
> 
>   I'm fairly new to the XL7 and I'm not sure of the capabilities of 
>   BTS and the sequencer.  Is it possible to record a BTS in a 
>   pattern?  For example I have a pattern with a BTS preset on track 
2, 
>   with a BTS riff assigned to it from the preset edit menu.  I set 
the 
>   channel to 2 and hit record then bring in and out some of the BTS 
>   channels using the trigger buttons.  The BTS continues to play 
after 
>   I hit stop, and until I disable the Audition button.  When I hit 
>   play I hear all the elements of my pattern except the BTS.
>   Can anyone help?
>   Thanks,
>   - grimley.
> 
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.........Also, check note G#2 which is your start and stop command 
for BTS.  Depending on how you have your pads mapped out(octave 
selection), if you are recording and hit that key at the end of your 
sequence, the sequencer will stop.


--- In xl7@y..., "emufreak1" <mmcquay@m...> wrote:
> What I've noticed when recording parts from BTS presets is that you 
> have to record the note on and off messages in your sequence.  For 
> example, I'm using a hi-hat pattern from a preset and when the 
> sequencer is running, I trigger the part(note-on)and when the end 
of 
> the song(section)is near, I have to hit the trigger button again
(note-
> off)or else the BTS sequencer will continue to run.
> 
> Later,
> 
> M2
> 
> --- In xl7@y..., "Jonathan El-Bizri" <sserendipity@n...> wrote:
> > As far as I can tell, the Beats function only works when you 
stick 
> to the channel the beats are on. Switch to another track/channel 
and 
> it you have a regualr drum kit. If you want to incorporate the 
beats 
> in your stuff, I think we're going to have to 'resample' them 
through 
> the midi I/O.
> > 
> > The corrolary question would be - how does one now access a BTS 
> patch without trggering the BTS? Is the only way to do this by 
> disabling the BTS riff in the preset? 
> > 
> > bIz
> > 
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: grimleyj2000 
> >   To: xl7@y... 
> >   Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 10:45 PM
> >   Subject: [xl7] Recording BTS triggers
> > 
> > 
> >   I'm fairly new to the XL7 and I'm not sure of the capabilities 
of 
> >   BTS and the sequencer.  Is it possible to record a BTS in a 
> >   pattern?  For example I have a pattern with a BTS preset on 
track 
> 2, 
> >   with a BTS riff assigned to it from the preset edit menu.  I 
set 
> the 
> >   channel to 2 and hit record then bring in and out some of the 
BTS 
> >   channels using the trigger buttons.  The BTS continues to play 
> after 
> >   I hit stop, and until I disable the Audition button.  When I 
hit 

> >   play I hear all the elements of my pattern except the BTS.
> >   Can anyone help?
> >   Thanks,
> >   - grimley.
> > 
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Are there BTS Presets?  I didn't see any...

rEalm





"Jonathan El-Bizri" <sserendipity@...>
04/08/02 12:59 AM
Please respond to xl7

 
        To:     <xl7@yahoogroups.com>
        cc: 

        Subject:        Re: [xl7] Recording BTS triggers


As far as I can tell, the Beats function only works when you stick to the 
channel the beats are on. Switch to another track/channel and it you have 
a regualr drum kit. If you want to incorporate the beats in your stuff, I 
think we're going to have to 'resample' them through the midi I/O.
 
The corrolary question would be - how does one now access a BTS patch 
without trggering the BTS? Is the only way to do this by disabling the BTS 
riff in the preset? 
 
bIz
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: grimleyj2000 
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 10:45 PM
Subject: [xl7] Recording BTS triggers

I'm fairly new to the XL7 and I'm not sure of the capabilities of 
BTS and the sequencer.  Is it possible to record a BTS in a 
pattern?  For example I have a pattern with a BTS preset on track 2, 
with a BTS riff assigned to it from the preset edit menu.  I set the 
channel to 2 and hit record then bring in and out some of the BTS 
channels using the trigger buttons.  The BTS continues to play after 
I hit stop, and until I disable the Audition button.  When I hit 
play I hear all the elements of my pattern except the BTS.
Can anyone help?
Thanks,
- grimley.



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Yeah, that's what I figured.  I have more fun making my own BTS presets 
anyway :)  Is there any documentation on the Command Station included BTS 
patterns?  I'd be curious to see what they actually do, and it would be 
easier than the trial and error method I'm using now to make my BTS 
Presets...

rEalm





"emufreak1" <mmcquay@...>
04/08/02 08:22 AM
Please respond to xl7

 
        To:     xl7@yahoogroups.com
        cc: 

        Subject:        [xl7] Re: Recording BTS triggers


Erik,

Now that you have OS ver 1.31, you have the BTS "feature", but since 
your ROM(ID)was converted by the factory, you won't see them unless 
you were to get a basic ROM.  If you know someone that has a P1K(X-
Lead/Mo'Phatt/World)module(if they are willing), put their ROM in 
your unit and the BTS presets will magically appear since the ID for 
those are for a different format unit.

Later,

M2


--- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> Are there BTS Presets?  I didn't see any...
> 
> rEalm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Jonathan El-Bizri" <sserendipity@n...>
> 04/08/02 12:59 AM
> Please respond to xl7
> 
> 
>         To:     <xl7@y...>
>         cc: 
>         Subject:        Re: [xl7] Recording BTS triggers
> 
> 
> As far as I can tell, the Beats function only works when you stick 
to the 
> channel the beats are on. Switch to another track/channel and it 
you have 
> a regualr drum kit. If you want to incorporate the beats in your 
stuff, I 
> think we're going to have to 'resample' them through the midi I/O.
> 
> The corrolary question would be - how does one now access a BTS 
patch 
> without trggering the BTS? Is the only way to do this by disabling 
the BTS 
> riff in the preset? 
> 
> bIz
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: grimleyj2000 
> To: xl7@y... 
> Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 10:45 PM
> Subject: [xl7] Recording BTS triggers
> 
> I'm fairly new to the XL7 and I'm not sure of the capabilities of 
> BTS and the sequencer.  Is it possible to record a BTS in a 
> pattern?  For example I have a pattern with a BTS preset on track 
2, 
> with a BTS riff assigned to it from the preset edit menu.  I set 
the 
> channel to 2 and hit record then bring in and out some of the BTS 
> channels using the trigger buttons.  The BTS continues to play 
after 
> I hit stop, and until I disable the Audition button.  When I hit 
> play I hear all the elements of my pattern except the BTS.
> Can anyone help?
> Thanks,
> - grimley.
> 
> 
> 
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Erik,

Now that you have OS ver 1.31, you have the BTS "feature", but since 
your ROM(ID)was converted by the factory, you won't see them unless  
you were to get a basic ROM.  If you know someone that has a P1K(X-
Lead/Mo'Phatt/World)module(if they are willing), put their ROM in 
your unit and the BTS presets will magically appear since the ID for 
those are for a different format unit.

Later,

M2


--- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> Are there BTS Presets?  I didn't see any...
> 
> rEalm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Jonathan El-Bizri" <sserendipity@n...>
> 04/08/02 12:59 AM
> Please respond to xl7
> 
>  
>         To:     <xl7@y...>
>         cc: 
>         Subject:        Re: [xl7] Recording BTS triggers
> 
> 
> As far as I can tell, the Beats function only works when you stick 
to the 
> channel the beats are on. Switch to another track/channel and it 
you have 
> a regualr drum kit. If you want to incorporate the beats in your 
stuff, I 
> think we're going to have to 'resample' them through the midi I/O.
>  
> The corrolary question would be - how does one now access a BTS 
patch 
> without trggering the BTS? Is the only way to do this by disabling 
the BTS 
> riff in the preset? 
>  
> bIz
>  
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: grimleyj2000 
> To: xl7@y... 
> Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 10:45 PM
> Subject: [xl7] Recording BTS triggers
> 
> I'm fairly new to the XL7 and I'm not sure of the capabilities of 
> BTS and the sequencer.  Is it possible to record a BTS in a 
> pattern?  For example I have a pattern with a BTS preset on track 
2, 
> with a BTS riff assigned to it from the preset edit menu.  I set 
the 
> channel to 2 and hit record then bring in and out some of the BTS 
> channels using the trigger buttons.  The BTS continues to play 
after 
> I hit stop, and until I disable the Audition button.  When I hit 
> play I hear all the elements of my pattern except the BTS.
> Can anyone help?
> Thanks,
> - grimley.
> 
> 
> 
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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--- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:
Is there any documentation on the Command Station included BTS 
patterns?  




I checked the manual addendum, but there is no appendix showing the 
BTS patterns.




--- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> Yeah, that's what I figured.  I have more fun making my own BTS 
presets 
> anyway :)  Is there any documentation on the Command Station 
included BTS 
> patterns?  I'd be curious to see what they actually do, and it 
would be 
> easier than the trial and error method I'm using now to make my BTS 
> Presets...
> 
> rEalm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "emufreak1" <mmcquay@m...>
> 04/08/02 08:22 AM
> Please respond to xl7
> 
>  
>         To:     xl7@y...
>         cc: 
>         Subject:        [xl7] Re: Recording BTS triggers
> 
> 
> Erik,
> 
> Now that you have OS ver 1.31, you have the BTS "feature", but 
since 
> your ROM(ID)was converted by the factory, you won't see them unless 
> you were to get a basic ROM.  If you know someone that has a P1K(X-
> Lead/Mo'Phatt/World)module(if they are willing), put their ROM in 
> your unit and the BTS presets will magically appear since the ID 
for 
> those are for a different format unit.
> 
> Later,
> 
> M2
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> > Are there BTS Presets?  I didn't see any...
> > 
> > rEalm
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > "Jonathan El-Bizri" <sserendipity@n...>
> > 04/08/02 12:59 AM
> > Please respond to xl7
> > 
> > 
> >         To:     <xl7@y...>
> >         cc: 
> >         Subject:        Re: [xl7] Recording BTS triggers
> > 
> > 
> > As far as I can tell, the Beats function only works when you 
stick 
> to the 
> > channel the beats are on. Switch to another track/channel and it 
> you have 
> > a regualr drum kit. If you want to incorporate the beats in your 
> stuff, I 
> > think we're going to have to 'resample' them through the midi I/O.
> > 
> > The corrolary question would be - how does one now access a BTS 
> patch 
> > without trggering the BTS? Is the only way to do this by 
disabling 
> the BTS 
> > riff in the preset? 
> > 
> > bIz
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: grimleyj2000 
> > To: xl7@y... 
> > Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 10:45 PM
> > Subject: [xl7] Recording BTS triggers
> > 
> > I'm fairly new to the XL7 and I'm not sure of the capabilities of 
> > BTS and the sequencer.  Is it possible to record a BTS in a 
> > pattern?  For example I have a pattern with a BTS preset on track 
> 2, 
> > with a BTS riff assigned to it from the preset edit menu.  I set 
> the 
> > channel to 2 and hit record then bring in and out some of the BTS 
> > channels using the trigger buttons.  The BTS continues to play 
> after 
> > I hit stop, and until I disable the Audition button.  When I hit 
> > play I hear all the elements of my pattern except the BTS.
> > Can anyone help?
> > Thanks,
> > - grimley.
> > 
> > 
> > 
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You can also download the BTS presets (actually all the xx1 presets) 
adapted to the xx7 rom id from the emu site. Check under downloads in 
the appropriate xx7 section.

Ezra



--- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> Yeah, that's what I figured.  I have more fun making my own BTS 
presets 
> anyway :)  Is there any documentation on the Command Station 
included BTS 
> patterns?  I'd be curious to see what they actually do, and it 
would be 
> easier than the trial and error method I'm using now to make my BTS 
> Presets...
> 
> rEalm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "emufreak1" <mmcquay@m...>
> 04/08/02 08:22 AM
> Please respond to xl7
> 
>  
>         To:     xl7@y...
>         cc: 
>         Subject:        [xl7] Re: Recording BTS triggers
> 
> 
> Erik,
> 
> Now that you have OS ver 1.31, you have the BTS "feature", but 
since 
> your ROM(ID)was converted by the factory, you won't see them unless 
> you were to get a basic ROM.  If you know someone that has a P1K(X-
> Lead/Mo'Phatt/World)module(if they are willing), put their ROM in 
> your unit and the BTS presets will magically appear since the ID 
for 
> those are for a different format unit.
> 
> Later,
> 
> M2
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> > Are there BTS Presets?  I didn't see any...
> > 
> > rEalm
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > "Jonathan El-Bizri" <sserendipity@n...>
> > 04/08/02 12:59 AM
> > Please respond to xl7
> > 
> > 
> >         To:     <xl7@y...>
> >         cc: 
> >         Subject:        Re: [xl7] Recording BTS triggers
> > 
> > 
> > As far as I can tell, the Beats function only works when you 
stick 
> to the 
> > channel the beats are on. Switch to another track/channel and it 
> you have 
> > a regualr drum kit. If you want to incorporate the beats in your 
> stuff, I 
> > think we're going to have to 'resample' them through the midi I/O.
> > 
> > The corrolary question would be - how does one now access a BTS 
> patch 
> > without trggering the BTS? Is the only way to do this by 
disabling 
> the BTS 
> > riff in the preset? 
> > 
> > bIz
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: grimleyj2000 
> > To: xl7@y... 
> > Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 10:45 PM
> > Subject: [xl7] Recording BTS triggers
> > 
> > I'm fairly new to the XL7 and I'm not sure of the capabilities of 
> > BTS and the sequencer.  Is it possible to record a BTS in a 
> > pattern?  For example I have a pattern with a BTS preset on track 
> 2, 
> > with a BTS riff assigned to it from the preset edit menu.  I set 
> the 
> > channel to 2 and hit record then bring in and out some of the BTS 
> > channels using the trigger buttons.  The BTS continues to play 
> after 
> > I hit stop, and until I disable the Audition button.  When I hit 
> > play I hear all the elements of my pattern except the BTS.
> > Can anyone help?
> > Thanks,
> > - grimley.
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Ezra,

I think there were a good bit of people on this group who downloaded 
those and I don't remember hearing anyone talk about BTS presets, but 
what E-MU did was change the ROM ID from those presets listed to the 
Command Station ID thus the BTS presets were converted to kits as 
listed *below.  Correct me if I'm wrong.  This question is for people 
who have downloaded the XL-1 and Mo'Phatt presets: 

Were there BTS presets listed on(in)any of the banks downloaded?
There was no read me file given to see the changes.  The same goes 
for the 19 arp patterns and 22 presets that were listed at the XL-1 
link.  It would be nice to know what is going to be downloaded prior 
to actually doing it.


Excerpt from E-MU's website:

http://www.emu.com/products/xl7/downloads.html

XL-1 Preset Banks for Your XL-7

These four banks are from the XTREME LEAD Sound Module. We have 
converted the ID of these XL-1 presets to the new XL-7 ID. These new 
banks are saved as Standard MIDI Files. They will load into your RAM 
banks (0-3) of your XL-7. Before loading, make sure you back up or 
save any custom presets you have created. If your sequencer does not 
read the file after downloading from Netscape, rename the file 
extension to .mid.






--- In xl7@y..., "ezra_gold" <ezra_gold@y...> wrote:
> You can also download the BTS presets (actually all the xx1 
presets) 
> adapted to the xx7 rom id from the emu site. Check under downloads 
in 
> the appropriate xx7 section.
> 
> Ezra
> 
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> > Yeah, that's what I figured.  I have more fun making my own BTS 
> presets 
> > anyway :)  Is there any documentation on the Command Station 
> included BTS 
> > patterns?  I'd be curious to see what they actually do, and it 
> would be 
> > easier than the trial and error method I'm using now to make my 
BTS 
> > Presets...
> > 
> > rEalm
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > "emufreak1" <mmcquay@m...>
> > 04/08/02 08:22 AM
> > Please respond to xl7
> > 
> >  
> >         To:     xl7@y...
> >         cc: 
> >         Subject:        [xl7] Re: Recording BTS triggers
> > 
> > 
> > Erik,
> > 
> > Now that you have OS ver 1.31, you have the BTS "feature", but 
> since 
> > your ROM(ID)was converted by the factory, you won't see them 
unless 
> > you were to get a basic ROM.  If you know someone that has a P1K
(X-
> > Lead/Mo'Phatt/World)module(if they are willing), put their ROM in 
> > your unit and the BTS presets will magically appear since the ID 
> for 
> > those are for a different format unit.
> > 
> > Later,
> > 
> > M2
> > 
> > 
> > --- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> > > Are there BTS Presets?  I didn't see any...
> > > 
> > > rEalm
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > "Jonathan El-Bizri" <sserendipity@n...>
> > > 04/08/02 12:59 AM
> > > Please respond to xl7
> > > 
> > > 
> > >         To:     <xl7@y...>
> > >         cc: 
> > >         Subject:        Re: [xl7] Recording BTS triggers
> > > 
> > > 
> > > As far as I can tell, the Beats function only works when you 
> stick 
> > to the 
> > > channel the beats are on. Switch to another track/channel and 
it 
> > you have 
> > > a regualr drum kit. If you want to incorporate the beats in 
your 
> > stuff, I 
> > > think we're going to have to 'resample' them through the midi 
I/O.
> > > 
> > > The corrolary question would be - how does one now access a BTS 
> > patch 
> > > without trggering the BTS? Is the only way to do this by 
> disabling 
> > the BTS 
> > > riff in the preset? 
> > > 
> > > bIz
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: grimleyj2000 
> > > To: xl7@y... 
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 10:45 PM
> > > Subject: [xl7] Recording BTS triggers
> > > 
> > > I'm fairly new to the XL7 and I'm not sure of the capabilities 
of 
> > > BTS and the sequencer.  Is it possible to record a BTS in a 
> > > pattern?  For example I have a pattern with a BTS preset on 
track 
> > 2, 
> > > with a BTS riff assigned to it from the preset edit menu.  I 
set 
> > the 
> > > channel to 2 and hit record then bring in and out some of the 
BTS 
> > > channels using the trigger buttons.  The BTS continues to play 
> > after 
> > > I hit stop, and until I disable the Audition button.  When I 
hit 

> > > play I hear all the elements of my pattern except the BTS.
> > > Can anyone help?
> > > Thanks,
> > > - grimley.
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The BTS presets definitely came with the BTS tag on them. I did not 
check to see if the audition riff remained a BTS riff as I have been 
making my own BTS presets. Even if the riff is different, many of the 
BTS riffs have the same name as the BTS presets so it is pretty easy 
to match things back up. I will check the riffs when I get home 
tonight.

Ezra

--- In xl7@y..., "emufreak1" <mmcquay@m...> wrote:
> Ezra,
> 
> I think there were a good bit of people on this group who 
downloaded 
> those and I don't remember hearing anyone talk about BTS presets, 
but 
> what E-MU did was change the ROM ID from those presets listed to 
the 
> Command Station ID thus the BTS presets were converted to kits as 
> listed *below.  Correct me if I'm wrong.  This question is for 
people 
> who have downloaded the XL-1 and Mo'Phatt presets: 
> 
> Were there BTS presets listed on(in)any of the banks downloaded?
> There was no read me file given to see the changes.  The same goes 
> for the 19 arp patterns and 22 presets that were listed at the XL-1 
> link.  It would be nice to know what is going to be downloaded 
prior 
> to actually doing it.
> 
> 
> Excerpt from E-MU's website:
> 
> http://www.emu.com/products/xl7/downloads.html
> 
> XL-1 Preset Banks for Your XL-7
> 
> These four banks are from the XTREME LEAD Sound Module. We have 
> converted the ID of these XL-1 presets to the new XL-7 ID. These 
new 
> banks are saved as Standard MIDI Files. They will load into your 
RAM 
> banks (0-3) of your XL-7. Before loading, make sure you back up or 
> save any custom presets you have created. If your sequencer does 
not 
> read the file after downloading from Netscape, rename the file 
> extension to .mid.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@y..., "ezra_gold" <ezra_gold@y...> wrote:
> > You can also download the BTS presets (actually all the xx1 
> presets) 
> > adapted to the xx7 rom id from the emu site. Check under 
downloads 

> in 
> > the appropriate xx7 section.
> > 
> > Ezra
> > 
> >

That's odd that it was done that way because those presets were 
released mid last year and the feature to use them was just 
implemented.  Come to think of it, I was playing around with a P2500
(OS 1.1* which had BTS presets which only seemed to work when 
pressing audition)at a GC store in Chicago while testing the new 
Midiman Oxygen-8 controller and tried to set up BTS parameters like I 
had at home as far as the velocities and trigger assignments and it 
didn't work.

Later................



--- In xl7@y..., "ezra_gold" <ezra_gold@y...> wrote:
> The BTS presets definitely came with the BTS tag on them. I did not 
> check to see if the audition riff remained a BTS riff as I have 
been 
> making my own BTS presets. Even if the riff is different, many of 
the 
> BTS riffs have the same name as the BTS presets so it is pretty 
easy 
> to match things back up. I will check the riffs when I get home 
> tonight.
> 
> Ezra
> 
> --- In xl7@y..., "emufreak1" <mmcquay@m...> wrote:
> > Ezra,
> > 
> > I think there were a good bit of people on this group who 
> downloaded 
> > those and I don't remember hearing anyone talk about BTS presets, 
> but 
> > what E-MU did was change the ROM ID from those presets listed to 
> the 
> > Command Station ID thus the BTS presets were converted to kits as 
> > listed *below.  Correct me if I'm wrong.  This question is for 
> people 
> > who have downloaded the XL-1 and Mo'Phatt presets: 
> > 
> > Were there BTS presets listed on(in)any of the banks downloaded?
> > There was no read me file given to see the changes.  The same 
goes 
> > for the 19 arp patterns and 22 presets that were listed at the XL-
1 
> > link.  It would be nice to know what is going to be downloaded 
> prior 
> > to actually doing it.
> > 
> > 
> > Excerpt from E-MU's website:
> > 
> > http://www.emu.com/products/xl7/downloads.html
> > 
> > XL-1 Preset Banks for Your XL-7
> > 
> > These four banks are from the XTREME LEAD Sound Module. We have 
> > converted the ID of these XL-1 presets to the new XL-7 ID. These 
> new 
> > banks are saved as Standard MIDI Files. They will load into your 
> RAM 
> > banks (0-3) of your XL-7. Before loading, make sure you back up 
or 

> > save any custom presets you have created. If your sequencer does 
> not 
> > read the file after downloading from Netscape, rename the file 
> > extension to .mid.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In xl7@y..., "ezra_gold" <ezra_gold@y...> wrote:
> > > You can also download the BTS presets (actually all the xx1 
> > presets) 
> > > adapted to the xx7 rom id from the emu site. Check under 
> downloads 
> > in 
> > > the appropriate xx7 section.
> > > 
> > > Ezra
> > > 
> > >

I think they just converted the rom id in the patch and nothing else. 
Either way, BTS mode seems to be a special case of the audition riff 
so you would hear the riff whenever you hit the audition button BTS 
with new or old OS. However with the old OS you could not manipulate 
the BTS mode parts. They were always on. Also note that KIT riffs are 
5 parts (4 + bassline) and you can control those parts like BTS 
parts. Once again, even in the old OS, they come on when the audition 
key is pressed.

Ezra


--- In xl7@y..., "emufreak1" <mmcquay@m...> wrote:
> That's odd that it was done that way because those presets were 
> released mid last year and the feature to use them was just 
> implemented.  Come to think of it, I was playing around with a P2500
> (OS 1.1* which had BTS presets which only seemed to work when 
> pressing audition)at a GC store in Chicago while testing the new 
> Midiman Oxygen-8 controller and tried to set up BTS parameters like 
I 

> had at home as far as the velocities and trigger assignments and it 
> didn't work.
> 
> Later................
> 
> 
>