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Prodatum help...

2014-08-30 by wyschmatt@...

Hi all----

Just trying to get back into using my MP-7 with Prodatum to write patches.

I have a problem though:

I can get Prodatum to recognize my device, but the only things that work in real-time

are auditioning and moving the virtual sliders.

None of the edits that I make in the patch, for example to patchcord settings, mute/unmute/solo voices LFOs, etc... update in realtime, and therefore I cant hear any changes as I edit. I have to press <SAVE>, and then any edits that I have made are updated to my machine.

Is this the way this software is supposed to work? I feel like I am missing something.

Thank you for your help.

Re: Prodatum help...

2014-08-30 by wyschmatt@...

Just like to mention that I just searched and found a thread regarding this. ha!

search is your friend...

Re: [xl7] Re: Prodatum help...

2014-09-22 by Andre Lewis

Realistically you should post problems to the Prodatum bug report:�

prodatum / Tickets

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I know he doesn't have a device to test, but perhaps enough reports will help him get the information he needs to fix this..

On Saturday, August 30, 2014 3:45 PM, "wyschmatt@... [xl7]" wrote:

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Just like to mention that I just searched and found a thread regarding this. ha!

search is your friend...

Re: [xl7] Re: Prodatum help...

2014-09-22 by smw-mail@...

When the request came for testers, I offered, and subsequently did testing of early versions. I gave extensive, high quality, detailed information. I am guessing there were others as well from the CS community who as well.

Unfortunately the special features and quirks of the CS/P2500 had to be experienced first hand in order to work out the software kinks and without a CS or P2500 it would be impossible. No amount of detailed description, analysis, and suggestions could serves as an adequate substitute.

Let me remind people of one issue--the one where I discovered that Prodatum would wipe out changes that were saved automatically by the CS/P2500 on power down and restored on power up.

If I recall correctly, I did extensive testing to try to detail which data was wiped out (actually, it was the set of state settings at powerdown), what the conditions were that caused this, and made suggestions to at least warn CS/P2500 users and ideally give them a prompt to save the settings before they would be wiped out by Prodatum the next time it was started.

It wasn't until several years later that this was fix and from what I can tell, the fix was incidental to some other changes that were made.

Over the years when people mention problems with Prodatum and the CS/P2500, I would download the new (at the time) version and do some testing.

My own opinion after years of trying to get Prodatum to work successfully leads me to conclude that the issues will never be fixed until a CS or P2500 is used to write the software.

This is just my opinion. If people can get it to work for them, great. Maybe they can document how they got it to work. I would probably give any list of detailed steps a try.

Maybe if it weren't free, and people paid money, and complained, the issues might be addressed; but submitting a ticket for this particular free software will probably not lead any where.

Please let me know if you do submit a tick and the issues do get resolved. I always like the Prodatum's user interface. It would be nice if it worked.

Steve

Re: [xl7] Re: Prodatum help...

2014-09-22 by Scott E. Whitehead

I'm with you, Steve. It is very cool software, and very attractive software, but it is not our software.

At some point I decided to spend the time I was spending trying to make the software work on getting accustomed to using my Command Station from the front panel. This has made all of the difference, and we are in love again.

On Sep 22, 2014 3:11 PM, "smw-mail@... [xl7]" <xl7@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

When the request came for testers, I offered, and subsequently did testing of early versions. I gave extensive, high quality, detailed information. I am guessing there were others as well from the CS community who as well.

Unfortunately the special features and quirks of the CS/P2500 had to be experienced first hand in order to work out the software kinks and without a CS or P2500 it would be impossible. No amount of detailed description, analysis, and suggestions could serves as an adequate substitute.

Let me remind people of one issue--the one where I discovered that Prodatum would wipe out changes that were saved automatically by the CS/P2500 on power down and restored on power up.

If I recall correctly, I did extensive testing to try to detail which data was wiped out (actually, it was the set of state settings at powerdown), what the conditions were that caused this, and made suggestions to at least warn CS/P2500 users and ideally give them a prompt to save the settings before they would be wiped out by Prodatum the next time it was started.

It wasn't until several years later that this was fix and from what I can tell, the fix was incidental to some other changes that were made.

Over the years when people mention problems with Prodatum and the CS/P2500, I would download the new (at the time) version and do some testing.

My own opinion after years of trying to get Prodatum to work successfully leads me to conclude that the issues will never be fixed until a CS or P2500 is used to write the software.

This is just my opinion. If people can get it to work for them, great. Maybe they can document how they got it to work. I would probably give any list of detailed steps a try.

Maybe if it weren't free, and people paid money, and complained, the issues might be addressed; but submitting a ticket for this particular free software will probably not lead any where.

Please let me know if you do submit a tick and the issues do get resolved. I always like the Prodatum's user interface. It would be nice if it worked.

Steve

Re: [xl7] Re: Prodatum help...

2014-09-23 by bassmeister3000@...

Sadly I agree. Although I'm not totally sold on the interface either. I saw that Steve had been messing with CTLR, makes me wonder if anyone would be up to making a CTRLR version of the various editrors?

RE: [xl7] Re: Prodatum help...

2014-09-23 by Scott E. Whitehead

I would take on an iPad interface in TB MIDI Stuff or _maybe_ Lemur if someone has the numbers I need. My experience with CTRLR is it crashes at the worst possible moment which puts you off digging back in again.

I did something in Touch OSC for the knobs for performance that’s very useful if far from perfect. (Image attached)

Something makes me think there’s a reason no one’s done it though. Whenever we talk editors, the Sysex talk gets pretty complicated.

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Sadly I agree. �Although I'm not totally sold on the interface either. �I saw that Steve had been messing with CTLR, makes me wonder if anyone would be up to making a CTRLR version of the various editrors?

oh my god after update everything wiring i must say its miracle !!!

take my money :)

Re: [xl7] Re: Prodatum help...

2015-01-30 by George G

Nice man, ehat configuration do you have on your CS? Model and roms

Can you able to save presets in your comp also?

Thanks

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On 30 ian. 2015, at 22:51, Joachym Barefoot joachymbarefoot@... [xl7] <xl7@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

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oh my god after update everything wiring i must say its miracle !!!

take my money :)

Re: [xl7] Re: Prodatum help...

2015-02-01 by Joachym Barefoot

I have CS xl 7,

with Beatgarden + Mo phatt. I tried saving individual patches changes. I think that its stored to CS.
I also tring CS and Prodatum shut down and checking if the settings was stored. When you next start unfortunately CS did not respond to changes in prodatum. I tried to delete an icon from the dock Reload prodatum. it's a bit weird but then CS reacts and changes can be saved. In version 2.0.0 could not edit the individual parameters on the channel only went adjust to master.

Sorry for my english .

Re: [xl7] Re: Prodatum help...

2015-02-01 by Janus

Thats how it works. If you restart the CS while prodatum is "connected", 
you have to switch a preset or channel before you can edit preset 
parameters again. You could also re-open the CS in prodatum.


On 01.02.2015 11:40, Joachym Barefoot joachymbarefoot@... [xl7] wrote:
> I have CS xl 7,
>
> with Beatgarden + Mo phatt. I tried saving individual patches changes. I
> think that its stored to CS.
> I also tring CS and Prodatum shut down and checking if the settings was
> stored. When you next start unfortunately CS did not respond to changes
> in prodatum. I tried to delete an icon from the dock Reload prodatum.
> it's a bit weird but then CS reacts and changes can be saved. In version
> 2.0.0 could not edit the individual parameters on the channel only went
> adjust to master.
>
> Sorry for my english .