It occurred to me you might be talking about sending midi back and forth between a sequencer/ DAW running on Windows 7 and the MP-7. There are several inexpensive USB based midi devices that will do this. I believe Cakewalk/ Sonar makes a well regarded one. I like the E-Mu ones, but I don't know if they are still being sold retail.
Basically, as long as the midi device has good drivers, you'll have no problems. Just Google 'USB Midi interfaces' and you should find lots of
data.
I've both used my Command station as a sound module and recorded the midi grooves to my computer sequencer for 'tweakin.' Pretty straight-forward.
DF
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From: steve_the_composer
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 1:09 PM
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Welcome back, and congrats on your MP-7. Looks like a nice set of ROMs (and other gear to go with the E-Mu)!
I'd certainly recommend OS2. What OS is in there?
I am not sure about your other questions/concerns. I have a P2500, but have never hooked it up to Win7. I doubt the E-Mu usb drivers would work, but since OS update works via midi, not usb, I am thinking it should work on win7.
I haven't done multitrack dubbing from one sequencer to the E-Mu sequencer,so maybe others can answer that question.
Again, welcome.
Steve
--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "mark-de-silva@..." wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I'm sure I used to be a member a few years back when I owned an XL-7 and foolishly sold it.I have now purchased an MP-7 on ebay and have the following ROMS installed...
> MP-7 standard mp7 rom
> PHATT pure phatt rom
> PROM pk6 rom
> XROM xk6 rom
>
> I have a yamaha rs7000 and a roland mc 808 also. I am probably going to use the rs7000 to sequence the mp-7/mc 808 and also record the sequences from the mp7 and mc 808 back to the rs7000 for remixing via a midi merger.
>
> problem at the moment is updating the mp7 as i don't yet have a midi interface and worried that my windows 7 laptop will have problems communicating with the mp7.
> also, will bts mode on mp7 rom work once the os2 is installed? if so, I will have freed up a rom space as it would seem pointless having a pure phatt rom aswell?? Anyone interested in swapping ROMs?
> If I remember correctly my old xl7 when updated to os2 had the ability to record more than 1 midi track at a time when playing sequences from another sequencer??
>
> Are there any members in the oxfordshire area? :-)
>
> Hope to hear from someone soon and looking forward to contributing to the group.
>
> Mark
>
2014-01-17 by craig ward
Hi Mark! I Have a spare xl7 rom I would be willing to swap for the mo phatt. Postage should be pretty cheap I'd say;-)
Sent from my iPhone
Welcome back, and congrats on your MP-7. Looks like a nice set of ROMs (and other gear to go with the E-Mu)!
I'd certainly recommend OS2. What OS is in there?
I am not sure about your other questions/concerns. I have a P2500, but have never hooked it up to Win7. I doubt the E-Mu usb drivers would work, but since OS update works via midi, not usb, I am thinking it should work on win7.
I haven't done multitrack dubbing from one sequencer to the E-Mu sequencer,so maybe others can answer that question.
Again, welcome.
Steve
--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "mark-de-silva@..." <mark-de-silva@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I'm sure I used to be a member a few years back when I owned an XL-7 and foolishly sold it.I have now purchased an MP-7 on ebay and have the following ROMS installed...
> MP-7 standard mp7 rom
> PHATT pure phatt rom
> PROM pk6 rom
> XROM xk6 rom
>
> I have a yamaha rs7000 and a roland mc 808 also. I am probably going to use the rs7000 to sequence the mp-7/mc 808 and also record the sequences from the mp7 and mc 808 back to the rs7000 for remixing via a midi merger.
>
> problem at the moment is updating the mp7 as i don't yet have a midi interface and worried that my windows 7 laptop will have problems communicating with the mp7.
> also, will bts mode on mp7 rom work once the os2 is installed? if so, I will have freed up a rom space as it would seem pointless having a pure phatt rom aswell?? Anyone interested in swapping ROMs?
> If I remember correctly my old xl7 when updated to os2 had the ability to record more than 1 midi track at a time when playing sequences from another sequencer??
>
> Are there any members in the oxfordshire area? :-)
>
> Hope to hear from someone soon and looking forward to contributing to the group.
>
> Mark
>
2014-01-19 by mark-de-silva@sky.com
Hi Craig. Thanks for the offer but not sure as I have the xk6 rom. what other roms do you have. maybe you have the need for the xk6 rom AND the mo phatt rom?? :-)
--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, craig ward <craigbiz@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Mark! I Have a spare xl7 rom I would be willing to swap for the mo phatt. Postage should be pretty cheap I'd say;-)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 17 Jan 2014, at 7:09 am, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@...> wrote:
> >
> > Welcome back, and congrats on your MP-7. Looks like a nice set of ROMs (and other gear to go with the E-Mu)!
> >
> > I'd certainly recommend OS2. What OS is in there?
> >
> > I am not sure about your other questions/concerns. I have a P2500, but have never hooked it up to Win7. I doubt the E-Mu usb drivers would work, but since OS update works via midi, not usb, I am thinking it should work on win7.
> >
> > I haven't done multitrack dubbing from one sequencer to the E-Mu sequencer,so maybe others can answer that question.
> >
> > Again, welcome.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "mark-de-silva@" <mark-de-silva@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > I'm sure I used to be a member a few years back when I owned an XL-7 and foolishly sold it.I have now purchased an MP-7 on ebay and have the following ROMS installed...
> > > MP-7 standard mp7 rom
> > > PHATT pure phatt rom
> > > PROM pk6 rom
> > > XROM xk6 rom
> > >
> > > I have a yamaha rs7000 and a roland mc 808 also. I am probably going to use the rs7000 to sequence the mp-7/mc 808 and also record the sequences from the mp7 and mc 808 back to the rs7000 for remixing via a midi merger.
> > >
> > > problem at the moment is updating the mp7 as i don't yet have a midi interface and worried that my windows 7 laptop will have problems communicating with the mp7.
> > > also, will bts mode on mp7 rom work once the os2 is installed? if so, I will have freed up a rom space as it would seem pointless having a pure phatt rom aswell?? Anyone interested in swapping ROMs?
> > > If I remember correctly my old xl7 when updated to os2 had the ability to record more than 1 midi track at a time when playing sequences from another sequencer??
> > >
> > > Are there any members in the oxfordshire area? :-)
> > >
> > > Hope to hear from someone soon and looking forward to contributing to the group.
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> >
> >
>
2014-01-20 by mark-de-silva@sky.com
Hi Craig. contact mark-de-silva@... for rom swap.
--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, craig ward <craigbiz@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Mark! I Have a spare xl7 rom I would be willing to swap for the mo phatt. Postage should be pretty cheap I'd say;-)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 17 Jan 2014, at 7:09 am, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@...> wrote:
> >
> > Welcome back, and congrats on your MP-7. Looks like a nice set of ROMs (and other gear to go with the E-Mu)!
> >
> > I'd certainly recommend OS2. What OS is in there?
> >
> > I am not sure about your other questions/concerns. I have a P2500, but have never hooked it up to Win7. I doubt the E-Mu usb drivers would work, but since OS update works via midi, not usb, I am thinking it should work on win7.
> >
> > I haven't done multitrack dubbing from one sequencer to the E-Mu sequencer,so maybe others can answer that question.
> >
> > Again, welcome.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "mark-de-silva@" <mark-de-silva@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > I'm sure I used to be a member a few years back when I owned an XL-7 and foolishly sold it.I have now purchased an MP-7 on ebay and have the following ROMS installed...
> > > MP-7 standard mp7 rom
> > > PHATT pure phatt rom
> > > PROM pk6 rom
> > > XROM xk6 rom
> > >
> > > I have a yamaha rs7000 and a roland mc 808 also. I am probably going to use the rs7000 to sequence the mp-7/mc 808 and also record the sequences from the mp7 and mc 808 back to the rs7000 for remixing via a midi merger.
> > >
> > > problem at the moment is updating the mp7 as i don't yet have a midi interface and worried that my windows 7 laptop will have problems communicating with the mp7.
> > > also, will bts mode on mp7 rom work once the os2 is installed? if so, I will have freed up a rom space as it would seem pointless having a pure phatt rom aswell?? Anyone interested in swapping ROMs?
> > > If I remember correctly my old xl7 when updated to os2 had the ability to record more than 1 midi track at a time when playing sequences from another sequencer??
> > >
> > > Are there any members in the oxfordshire area? :-)
> > >
> > > Hope to hear from someone soon and looking forward to contributing to the group.
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> >
> >
>
2014-03-21 by Bruno
2014-03-21 12:26 GMT+01:00 <
mark-de-silva@...>:
> I have O.S.2 in my MP-7 and decided on MP-7 ROM, PROM1 ROM, XROM ROM and DRUM ROM.
Great choice - I have Protozoa instead of PROM though.
> the hip hop factory patterns kill my way of working.......
Some of them are useful, but most of them are in fact crappy.
> I haven't had any success with multichannel midi recording from another sequencer (rs7000) yet as all midi from more than one midi channel data from ends up on the one MP-7 midi channel I am on at the time. Can anyone confirm that multichannel midi recording is possible. I will try again making sure re-channelize input in the midi menu is OFF and making sure my other sequencer settings are correct........then hopefully I'll see more than one track channel light up in pattern mode after recording!
Indeed, "rechannelize input" is the first thing to check. I just finished a re-arranging of my studio just in order to be able to make multi-channel recording (from multiple devices though) and will be exploring it this weekend (if time allows).
Greetz,
Bruno
2014-03-21 by <smw-mail@...>
I am wondering if you are talking about multitrack recording or multichannel recording. For each track you can record up to 16 midi channels at once. I never used the explode feature, but I am wondering if that will enable you to take a single multichannel track and "explode" it onto up to 16 different tracks, with each track having one channel. It sounds to me like that might be your goal.
Does anyone here use the explode feature? If not, maybe I can play with it on the weekend.
Hope this helps.
Steve
2014-03-21 by <smw-mail@...>
Let me make sure I understand. The goal is to:
1. Record on the E-Mu sequencer 16 midi channels of data at the same time all from external gear.
AND
2. Either (a) simultaneously play it back on external gear so there are 16 midi channels going from the E-Mu sequencer to the external gear (on the original midi channels) or (b) play it back later in this manner.
Am I close? (I am feeling up for some E-Mu gear exploration.)
STeve
2014-03-21 by <smw-mail@...>
I am having a hard time with this. I must be missing something. On the surface it sounds like simply dubbing from one sequencer to another. If that's the case why not simply export a midi file from sequencer 1 and upload it to sequencer 2?
I am guessing there is something more. Hmmmmm.
Let me ask: If I would hook a midi keyboard into my P2500 and play sounds on an external module in record mode on the P2500 such that I periodically change the midi channel of the keyboard, does that come close to what you want to do (although I would be playing one channel at a time because I am not setup to play 16 channels at the same time)?
It seems to me that by the time I start sending midi data on channel 16 (if it works), I will have a 15 channel track (still in record mode) playing 15 channels (that I just recorded) on external gear, and once I add data on channel 16 and press stop, I will have recorded a single 16 channel track that will play 16 channels on my external gear all from one track.
So far as I can see, that is what you want--except that I am do it serially. I suppose if I have 16 pairs of hands, 16 keyboards, and a 16 channel midi merger, I could do it in parallel--to simulate going from one sequencer to another.
Hmmmm. Maybe I figured out the missing link--possibly: Are you wanting to use the track mute buttons to turn different midi channels on and off going to the external gear? If that's part of the equation, I doubt it can be done since the buttons function as >>track<< mutes, not channel mutes.
I think you could use the knobs in volume mode to bring channels in and out. Or you could have a device with 16 buttons in the midi flow that use the expression CC as kind on an on/off switch.
Anyhow, I am curious to know what the performance goal is.
Steve
2014-03-22 by Matt
I think rechannelize off then explode will do his bidding.
On Mar 21, 2014 4:58 PM, <
smw-mail@...> wrote:
I am having a hard time with this. I must be missing something. On the surface it sounds like simply dubbing from one sequencer to another. If that's the case why not simply export a midi file from sequencer 1 and upload it to sequencer 2?
I am guessing there is something more. Hmmmmm.
Let me ask: If I would hook a midi keyboard into my P2500 and play sounds on an external module in record mode on the P2500 such that I periodically change the midi channel of the keyboard, does that come close to what you want to do (although I would be playing one channel at a time because I am not setup to play 16 channels at the same time)?
It seems to me that by the time I start sending midi data on channel 16 (if it works), I will have a 15 channel track (still in record mode) playing 15 channels (that I just recorded) on external gear, and once I add data on channel 16 and press stop, I will have recorded a single 16 channel track that will play 16 channels on my external gear all from one track.
So far as I can see, that is what you want--except that I am do it serially. I suppose if I have 16 pairs of hands, 16 keyboards, and a 16 channel midi merger, I could do it in parallel--to simulate going from one sequencer to another.
Hmmmm. Maybe I figured out the missing link--possibly: Are you wanting to use the track mute buttons to turn different midi channels on and off going to the external gear? If that's part of the equation, I doubt it can be done since the buttons function as >>track<< mutes, not channel mutes.
I think you could use the knobs in volume mode to bring channels in and out. Or you could have a device with 16 buttons in the midi flow that use the expression CC as kind on an on/off switch.
Anyhow, I am curious to know what the performance goal is.
Steve
2014-03-22 by <smw-mail@...>
Ya know, when I read that, Matt, I kinda thought that's what explode would do--but since I never used
it, how would I think that? Duh--silly me: probably when I read the manual ages ago!! (/me laughs at self)
Steve
2014-03-22 by <smw-mail@...>
Well, it took me a little while to figure out where the midi feedback was coming from. (I needed to mute realtime data going from the P2500 to all my midi ports.) But once I did that, it worked as expected. So, I would assume that if I had 16 people each playing one midi device, each on a different midi channel, merged into my P2500 (Motu parallel port midi router), simultaneously the P2500 would (1) record events on all 16 channels and (2) pass them through to either (a) a mutitimbral sound module or (b) 16 monotimbral sound modules or (c) some combination of modules. Once the recording was stopped, play would replay what was recorded exactly as heard.
I suppose if I were dubbing a 16 channel sequence from a different sequencer to record it on the P2500's sequencer, it should work the same.
However, if the goal is to have sequencer/sound module X play itself at the same time the E-Mu is recording, in order to avoid midi feedback and/or midi clock confusion and/or note doubling, you might have to switch some settings around in one or both in order to have the E-Mu sequencer play sequencer/sound module X. Of course it would depend on your midi wiring/routing and what parameters/settings you have access to on sequencer/sound module X.
BTW, to do this experiment I had to change the P2500 parameters to settings which I never use, so if this is what either of you wants to be able to do (or anyone else want to do), I will type up the settings I used.
Oh--I only used MultiA. If I changed configuration on the fly, I probably could have recorded the 16 midi channels onto track one and then added 16 more channels on track 2 set to MultiB. (Will have to test that.)
I had fun with this exercise. I am now wondering about developing a live midi looping performance modality based on this E-Mu sequencer usage. Maybe I can use the knobs in volume mode to mix MultiA channels and toggle to program mode to mix MultiB channels.
I am still not sure if this comes anywhere near the original goal, but I hope its helpful to someone.
Steve
2014-03-22 by Bruno
Wow, that was a solid piece of research, Steve. Thanks a lot!