korg es1
2002-04-04 by ph.demoor@free.fr
Sorry if it's a bit off topic , but I'll like to know what users think about the Korg ES1 ..is it better than the Boss sp303 to play samples with our Xl7 ?
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korg es1
Re: [xl7] korg es1
2002-04-04 by just john
>Sorry if it's a bit off topic , but I'll like to know what users think >about the Korg ES1 ..is it better than the Boss sp303 to play samples >with our Xl7 ? > Don't know the 303, but I enjoy my ES-1. It's especially useful if you get a smartcard thingie on your main computer, 'cuz you can hone samples there and transfer them to the Korg. (It's also useful for backing up the ES-1's data.) --- * Radio Free Entropy: http://just-john.com/cn/rfe.shtml *
RE: [xl7] korg es1
2002-04-04 by Andre Lewis
I'm about to go pick up my second one today! Heheh I have a Roland SP808, which I originally sold the ES1 for. The SP808 is great, CD quality and professional editing environment. I had an ER1 so I wasn't worried about it. I'm picking it up again because it has a better sequencer than the ER1 and it's perfect for programming the XL-7. As far as sample quality, it uses 1/8th inch headphone jack style inputs, is kinda dodgy to edit loops, and only does 38khz sampling. The timestretch on it is totally a pain in the ass. I've since picked up a Yamaha A5000 which makes my SP808 redundant, so I'll probably sell that. Let me know if you want to buy it, I have the digital I/O for it and I'm planning on selling it for about 500$. Andre
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-----Original Message----- From: ph.demoor@... [mailto:ph.demoor@...] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 1:04 PM To: xl7@yahoogroups.com Subject: [xl7] korg es1 Sorry if it's a bit off topic , but I'll like to know what users think about the Korg ES1 ..is it better than the Boss sp303 to play samples with our Xl7 ? To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [xl7] korg es1
2002-04-05 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com
I would say yes, the ES-1 is a very cool little beast. I was in the same
boat as you a couple months ago, sp303, or ES-1. I'd go with the ES-1
definitely!
rEalm
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04/04/02 03:04 PM
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Subject: [xl7] korg es1 Sorry if it's a bit off topic , but I'll like to know what users think about the Korg ES1 ..is it better than the Boss sp303 to play samples with our Xl7 ? To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [xl7] korg es1
2002-04-05 by Roger Powell
I have both an ES-1 and the SP-303 (plus the SP-505.) Here are my opinions. The ES-1 is better at programming/playing patterns where the individual samples are one-shot single percussion instruments (like a drum machine.) The fixed sampling rate is 32kHz which may make a difference to your application. You can't save/load individual samples to the smart media card; you have deal with the entire machine contents at a time. This also implies that a higher-capacity smart media card does not extend the maximum sampling time.The effects enable some fairly warped resampling that can be cool. The SP-303 is better at playing sample loops where the beat pattern/sounds is fully contained in the sample. The 303 is also far superior for use in live 'DJ' style sampling. Max sample rate is 44.1kHz and WAVE files can be imported through the smart media card (first you have to copy them onto it from a computer interface.) Maximum sampling time is increased with a higher-capacity smart media card. The effects are also very good, I think, for the intended purpose of mangling for resampling. The SP-505 adds more extensive pattern and song programming capability, many more banks in which to store samples, a good mix of functionality between the two machines (SP-303 and ES-1.) However, because of the menu structure access to functions, the 505 is less "immediate" in live usage than the 303. If you want to sample your own one-shots and build step sequences, then the ES-1 (or SP-505) is great. If you want to deal with sample loops, the SP-303 (or 505) is better. Forneau --- erik_magrini@... wrote: > I would say yes, the ES-1 is a very cool little > beast. I was in the same > boat as you a couple months ago, sp303, or ES-1. > I'd go with the ES-1 > definitely! > > rEalm > > > > > > > ph.demoor@... > 04/04/02 03:04 PM > Please respond to xl7 > > > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com > cc: > Subject: [xl7] korg es1 > > > Sorry if it's a bit off topic , but I'll like to > know what users think > about the Korg ES1 ..is it better than the Boss > sp303 to play samples > with our Xl7 ? > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/
Re: [xl7] korg es1 (correction)
2002-04-05 by Roger Powell
Let me correct one statement I made about loading/saving samples on the ES-1: You *can* load individual samples, either ES-1 format from one of the saved back-up files or WAVE (32kHz) from the smart media card. You are, however, still limited to the 4MB internal memory limit for all sounds/patterns/songs. Another nice thing about the ES-1 is the format conversion utility for your PC that let's you take samples recorded directly into the ES-1 and turn them into WAVE files. As far as I know, the Roland units (SP-303/505) do not offer such a s/w utility. I like sampling directly into the machine, then be able to tweak externally in a computer audio program, then load back into the little sampler. This utility be downloaded from the Korg ES-1 site. Forneau --- Roger Powell <forneau@...> wrote: > I have both an ES-1 and the SP-303 (plus the > SP-505.) > Here are my opinions. > > The ES-1 is better at programming/playing patterns > where the individual samples are one-shot single > percussion instruments (like a drum machine.) The > fixed sampling rate is 32kHz which may make a > difference to your application. You can't save/load > individual samples to the smart media card; you have > deal with the entire machine contents at a time. > This > also implies that a higher-capacity smart media card > does not extend the maximum sampling time.The > effects > enable some fairly warped resampling that can be > cool. > > The SP-303 is better at playing sample loops where > the > beat pattern/sounds is fully contained in the > sample. > The 303 is also far superior for use in live 'DJ' > style sampling. Max sample rate is 44.1kHz and WAVE > files can be imported through the smart media card > (first you have to copy them onto it from a computer > interface.) Maximum sampling time is increased with > a > higher-capacity smart media card. The effects are > also > very good, I think, for the intended purpose of > mangling for resampling. > > The SP-505 adds more extensive pattern and song > programming capability, many more banks in which to > store samples, a good mix of functionality between > the > two machines (SP-303 and ES-1.) However, because of > the menu structure access to functions, the 505 is > less "immediate" in live usage than the 303. > > If you want to sample your own one-shots and build > step sequences, then the ES-1 (or SP-505) is great. > If > you want to deal with sample loops, the SP-303 (or > 505) is better. > > Forneau > > > > --- erik_magrini@... wrote: > > I would say yes, the ES-1 is a very cool little > > beast. I was in the same > > boat as you a couple months ago, sp303, or ES-1. > > I'd go with the ES-1 > > definitely! > > > > rEalm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ph.demoor@... > > 04/04/02 03:04 PM > > Please respond to xl7 > > > > > > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com > > cc: > > Subject: [xl7] korg es1 > > > > > > Sorry if it's a bit off topic , but I'll like to > > know what users think > > about the Korg ES1 ..is it better than the Boss > > sp303 to play samples > > with our Xl7 ? > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/
RE: [xl7] korg es1 (correction)
2002-04-05 by Andre Lewis
If your after a DJ tool, don't get the es1, you won't be able to load enuff samples. If your after a kickass drum/sample sequencer, totally different story. If your after a drum sequencer, It's practically a must. Customm drum hits, superb. Long phrases with clips from soundtracks, well you simply don't have enuff room loadable at one time on it. The SP-808 can dump wav files back and forth on a zip100 disk, up to 44khz and a 100mb size. You can resample through it's kickbutt effects etc, sequence and multitrack. For DJ work you may want to look on ebay for one.
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-----Original Message----- From: Roger Powell [mailto:forneau@...] Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 11:06 AM To: xl7@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [xl7] korg es1 (correction) Let me correct one statement I made about loading/saving samples on the ES-1: You *can* load individual samples, either ES-1 format from one of the saved back-up files or WAVE (32kHz) from the smart media card. You are, however, still limited to the 4MB internal memory limit for all sounds/patterns/songs. Another nice thing about the ES-1 is the format conversion utility for your PC that let's you take samples recorded directly into the ES-1 and turn them into WAVE files. As far as I know, the Roland units (SP-303/505) do not offer such a s/w utility. I like sampling directly into the machine, then be able to tweak externally in a computer audio program, then load back into the little sampler. This utility be downloaded from the Korg ES-1 site. Forneau --- Roger Powell <forneau@...> wrote: > I have both an ES-1 and the SP-303 (plus the > SP-505.) > Here are my opinions. > > The ES-1 is better at programming/playing patterns > where the individual samples are one-shot single > percussion instruments (like a drum machine.) The > fixed sampling rate is 32kHz which may make a > difference to your application. You can't save/load > individual samples to the smart media card; you have > deal with the entire machine contents at a time. > This > also implies that a higher-capacity smart media card > does not extend the maximum sampling time.The > effects > enable some fairly warped resampling that can be > cool. > > The SP-303 is better at playing sample loops where > the > beat pattern/sounds is fully contained in the > sample. > The 303 is also far superior for use in live 'DJ' > style sampling. Max sample rate is 44.1kHz and WAVE > files can be imported through the smart media card > (first you have to copy them onto it from a computer > interface.) Maximum sampling time is increased with > a > higher-capacity smart media card. The effects are > also > very good, I think, for the intended purpose of > mangling for resampling. > > The SP-505 adds more extensive pattern and song > programming capability, many more banks in which to > store samples, a good mix of functionality between > the > two machines (SP-303 and ES-1.) However, because of > the menu structure access to functions, the 505 is > less "immediate" in live usage than the 303. > > If you want to sample your own one-shots and build > step sequences, then the ES-1 (or SP-505) is great. > If > you want to deal with sample loops, the SP-303 (or > 505) is better. > > Forneau > > > > --- erik_magrini@... wrote: > > I would say yes, the ES-1 is a very cool little > > beast. I was in the same > > boat as you a couple months ago, sp303, or ES-1. > > I'd go with the ES-1 > > definitely! > > > > rEalm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ph.demoor@... > > 04/04/02 03:04 PM > > Please respond to xl7 > > > > > > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com > > cc: > > Subject: [xl7] korg es1 > > > > > > Sorry if it's a bit off topic , but I'll like to > > know what users think > > about the Korg ES1 ..is it better than the Boss > > sp303 to play samples > > with our Xl7 ? > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/