Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

 

You cannot put external audio through the synth engine or FX chips. There are a lot of us folks who wish you could. Sorry.

If you can find an E-Mu Ultra sampler with the RFX-32 option, you could do it. An E5000 Ultra with the RFX-32 went for $400 (US) a week or two ago. They are rare, but they do pop up.

Steve

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "nikitsanpsix" wrote:
>
> Hi!
> I trying to use external delay guitar pedal with command station.
> How can I return signal to stereo into CS? is there any program/menu option to play mono return as a stereo?
> Many thanks for your responses )
>

 

Hey, Matt ...

No teasing allowed! So how about helping the poor guy out with routing out the effects?

The difference between you and me is that you already know how to do it and I'd have to dig out the manual, digest it and try to distill to simple instructions ... and then probably get it wrong.

DF

 

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From: Matt <somatt@...>
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: Return effect in stereo?

 

Yes but you can use the insert jacks to do what he's talking about?

On Jan 25, 2013 1:40 PM, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@...> wrote:

 

You cannot put external audio through the synth engine or FX chips. There are a lot of us folks who wish you could. Sorry.

If you can find an E-Mu Ultra sampler with the RFX-32 option, you could do it. An E5000 Ultra with the RFX-32 went for $400 (US) a week or two ago. They are rare, but they do pop up.

Steve

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "nikitsanpsix" wrote:
>
> Hi!
> I trying to use external delay guitar pedal with command station.
> How can I return signal to stereo into CS? is there any program/menu option to play mono return as a stereo?
> Many thanks for your responses )
>

 

Stellar!

You're the 'hands on' guru.

DF

 

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From: Matt <somatt@...>
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: Return effect in stereo?

 

Ok I'm kind of mobile right now so ill explain quick and if u got problems lmk. 

Basically first u need to understand the concept that channels and tracks are different and that channels can be routed to tracks in the pattern edit menu. 
Once you realize that then you need to go in the global menu under outputs ( I believe) and edit the channel (not track!) u are sending to from your track.  You need to route the channel u want to go to external effects to go to sub out 1 (which will be unavailable as a choice unless u have something plugged in).   Alternatively you could set it to preset and edit the outputs in the preset itself. 
Since sub out 1 and 2 are inserts you can use insert cable to send and receive external effects which are then mixed back in to the main signal but since they are analog signals and there is no A to D on the command stations you will be unable to route externally effected signals to the internal effects engine (in any way, ever. )
Additionally if you route via preset you can use the knobs as effects sends if you route your cords appropriately
Hope this helps. I'm on my cell so I don't have a manual or a CS in front of me.
-matt

On Jan 25, 2013 5:00 PM, "D F Tweedie" <bienpegaito@...> wrote:

 

Hey, Matt ...

No teasing allowed! So how about helping the poor guy out with routing out the effects?

The difference between you and me is that you already know how to do it and I'd have to dig out the manual, digest it and try to distill to simple instructions ... and then probably get it wrong.

DF

 

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From: Matt <somatt@...>
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: Return effect in stereo?

 

Yes but you can use the insert jacks to do what he's talking about?

On Jan 25, 2013 1:40 PM, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@...> wrote:

 

You cannot put external audio through the synth engine or FX chips. There are a lot of us folks who wish you could. Sorry.

If you can find an E-Mu Ultra sampler with the RFX-32 option, you could do it. An E5000 Ultra with the RFX-32 went for $400 (US) a week or two ago. They are rare, but they do pop up.

Steve

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "nikitsanpsix" wrote:
>
> Hi!
> I trying to use external delay guitar pedal with command station.
> How can I return signal to stereo into CS? is there any program/menu option to play mono return as a stereo?
> Many thanks for your responses )
>

 

Uh oh. I think I may have outlasted my usefulness here. I understand everything you say here, Matt, but in my old age I cannot wrap my head around how this converts a mono return into stereo. Perhaps I will take up the recorder again and leave the complexities of synths to others.

Oh well. Its been fun.

Steve_the_recorder_player

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Matt wrote:
>
> Ok I'm kind of mobile right now so ill explain quick and if u got problems
> lmk.
>
> Basically first u need to understand the concept that channels and tracks
> are different and that channels can be routed to tracks in the pattern edit
> menu.
> Once you realize that then you need to go in the global menu under outputs
> ( I believe) and edit the channel (not track!) u are sending to from your
> track. You need to route the channel u want to go to external effects to
> go to sub out 1 (which will be unavailable as a choice unless u have
> something plugged in). Alternatively you could set it to preset and edit
> the outputs in the preset itself.
> Since sub out 1 and 2 are inserts you can use insert cable to send and
> receive external effects which are then mixed back in to the main signal
> but since they are analog signals and there is no A to D on the command
> stations you will be unable to route externally effected signals to the
> internal effects engine (in any way, ever. )
> Additionally if you route via preset you can use the knobs as effects sends
> if you route your cords appropriately
> Hope this helps. I'm on my cell so I don't have a manual or a CS in front
> of me.
> -matt
> On Jan 25, 2013 5:00 PM, "D F Tweedie" wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Hey, Matt ...
> >
> > No teasing allowed! So how about helping the poor guy out with routing out
> > the effects?
> >
> > The difference between you and me is that you already know how to do it
> > and I9;d have to dig out the manual, digest it and try to distill to simple
> > instructions ... and then probably get it wrong.
> >
> > DF
> >
> >
> > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication with its contents may contain
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> > use of the intended recipient(s). Unauthorized interception, review, use or
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> > communication.
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* Matt
> > *To:* xl7@yahoogroups.com
> > *Sent:* Friday, January 25, 2013 3:44 PM
> > *Subject:* Re: [xl7] Re: Return effect in stereo?
> >
> >
> > Yes but you can use the insert jacks to do what he9;s talking about?
> > On Jan 25, 2013 1:40 PM, "steve_the_composer"
> > wrote:
> >
> > **
> >
> > You cannot put external audio through the synth engine or FX chips.
> > There are a lot of us folks who wish you could. Sorry.
> >
> > If you can find an E-Mu Ultra sampler with the RFX-32 option, you could do
> > it. An E5000 Ultra with the RFX-32 went for $400 (US) a week or two ago.
> > They are rare, but they do pop up.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "nikitsanpsix" wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi!
> > > I trying to use external delay guitar pedal with command station.
> > > How can I return signal to stereo into CS? is there any program/menu
> > option to play mono return as a stereo?
> > > Many thanks for your responses )
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

It doesn't. That isn't possible.

On Jan 25, 2013 5:50 PM, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@...> wrote:

 

Uh oh. I think I may have outlasted my usefulness here. I understand everything you say here, Matt, but in my old age I cannot wrap my head around how this converts a mono return into stereo. Perhaps I will take up the recorder again and leave the complexities of synths to others.

Oh well. Its been fun.

Steve_the_recorder_player

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Matt wrote:
>
> Ok I'm kind of mobile right now so ill explain quick and if u got problems
> lmk.
>
> Basically first u need to understand the concept that channels and tracks
> are different and that channels can be routed to tracks in the pattern edit
> menu.
> Once you realize that then you need to go in the global menu under outputs
> ( I believe) and edit the channel (not track!) u are sending to from your
> track. You need to route the channel u want to go to external effects to
> go to sub out 1 (which will be unavailable as a choice unless u have
> something plugged in). Alternatively you could set it to preset and edit
> the outputs in the preset itself.
> Since sub out 1 and 2 are inserts you can use insert cable to send and
> receive external effects which are then mixed back in to the main signal
> but since they are analog signals and there is no A to D on the command
> stations you will be unable to route externally effected signals to the
> internal effects engine (in any way, ever. )
> Additionally if you route via preset you can use the knobs as effects sends
> if you route your cords appropriately
> Hope this helps. I'm on my cell so I don't have a manual or a CS in front
> of me.
> -matt
> On Jan 25, 2013 5:00 PM, "D F Tweedie"; wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Hey, Matt ...
> >
> > No teasing allowed! So how about helping the poor guy out with routing out
> > the effects?
> >
> > The difference between you and me is that you already know how to do it
> > and I'd have to dig out the manual, digest it and try to distill to simple
> > instructions ... and then probably get it wrong.
> >
> > DF
> >
> >
> > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication with its contents may contain
> > confidential and/or legally privileged information. It is solely for the
> > use of the intended recipient(s). Unauthorized interception, review, use or
> > disclosure is prohibited and may violate applicable laws including the
> > Electronic Communications Privacy Act. If you are not the intended
>; > recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the
> > communication.
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* Matt
> > *To:* xl7@yahoogroups.com
> > *Sent:* Friday, January 25, 2013 3:44 PM
> > *Subject:* Re: [xl7] Re: Return effect in stereo?
> >
> >
> > Yes but you can use the insert jacks to do what he's talking about?
> > On Jan 25, 2013 1:40 PM, "steve_the_composer"
> > wrote:
> >
> > **
> >
> > You cannot put external audio through the synth engine or FX chips.
> > There are a lot of us folks who wish you could. Sorry.
> >
> > If you can find an E-Mu Ultra sampler with the RFX-32 option, you could do
> > it. An E5000 Ultra with the RFX-32 went for $400 (US) a week or two ago.
> > They are rare, but they do pop up.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, ";nikitsanpsix" wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi!
> > > I trying to use external delay guitar pedal with command station.
> > > How can I return signal to stereo into CS? is there any program/menu
> > option to play mono return as a stereo?
> > > Many thanks for your responses )
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

 

A thorough and 'nuanced' explication by the 'technical' guru!

DF

 

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From: steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...>
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 5:36 PM
Subject: [xl7] Re: Return effect in stereo?

 

Apologies if in my tiredness I misinterpreted the question. (It has been known to happen!) I thought the intent was to take a mono fx pedal signal which was put back into the command station and have the command station somehow convert it to stereo.

> > is there any program/menu option to play mono return as a stereo?"

I took this to mean that nikisanpsix already knew how to return the signal from the pedal through the subs via a trs cable and wanted to somehow convert the mono fx signal signal into stereo.

To me the obvious answer is to send the mono out of the fx pedal (think "Y" cable) into both the left and right return of the command station. As I understand it, doing that would sum the command station's stereo out with the mono in on both the left and right command station outs.

Although I thought of that, I didn't think that's what nikisanpsix was wanting to do as it is not really converting a mono in to stereo. Rather, it is using the command station's returns to create a passive mixer--something I do regularly.

I stand corrected. I hope this helps explain how to do it.

Steve

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Matt wrote:
>
> Yes but you can use the insert jacks to do what he';s talking about?
> On Jan 25, 2013 1:40 PM, "steve_the_composer" wrote:
>
>
> > You cannot put external audio through the synth engine or FX chips.
> > Steve
> >;
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "nikitsanpsix" wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi!
> > > I trying to use external delay guitar pedal with command station.
> > >; How can I return signal to stereo into CS? is there any program/menu
> > option to play mono return as a stereo?
> > > Many thanks for your responses )
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

 

You cannot put external audio through the synth engine or FX chips. There are a lot of us folks who wish you could. Sorry.

If you can find an E-Mu Ultra sampler with the RFX-32 option, you could do it. An E5000 Ultra with the RFX-32 went for $400 (US) a week or two ago. They are rare, but they do pop up.

Steve

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "nikitsanpsix" wrote:
>
> Hi!
> I trying to use external delay guitar pedal with command station.
> How can I return signal to stereo into CS? is there any program/menu option to play mono return as a stereo?
> Many thanks for your responses )
>

 

Thanks to all for answers to the Board.

the result is that it can be achieved only by using the stereo output of your mixer or guitar pedals and connecting them to returns of (both) L and R subouts.

 

No. Silence :-(

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Matt wrote:
>
> Whatever happened to the guy that was making hacked roms to load ur own
> samples via usb?
> On Jan 25, 2013 1:40 PM, "steve_the_composer" wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > You cannot put external audio through the synth engine or FX chips. There
> > are a lot of us folks who wish you could. Sorry.
> >
> > If you can find an E-Mu Ultra sampler with the RFX-32 option, you could do
> >; it. An E5000 Ultra with the RFX-32 went for $400 (US) a week or two ago.
> > They are rare, but they do pop up.
> >
> >; Steve
> >
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "nikitsanpsix"; wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi!
> > > I trying to use external delay guitar pedal with command station.
> > > How can I return signal to stereo into CS? is there any program/menu
> > option to play mono return as a stereo?
> > > Many thanks for your responses )
> > >
> >
> >;
> >
>

 

can you tell about this in detail?

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Matt wrote:
>
> This is how I usually run kaoss pad, stereo compressor, or other effects.
> Its pretty flexible, with a hardware compressor u can even get CS to do
> paralell compression without a mixer.
> On Jan 26, 2013 12:24 AM, "nikitsanpsix" wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> >
>; > Thanks to all for answers to the Board.
> >
> > the result is that it can be achieved only by using the stereo output of
> > your mixer or guitar pedals and connecting them to returns of (both) L and
> > R subouts.
> >
> >
> >
>

 

I you send/returns for parallel compression to, but I found litle timing diferences (latency, phasing issues) when trying to compress kickdrum. How did you do this?
And how is KP3 as a FX processor? Is it good for IDM patterns?

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Matt wrote:
>
> This is how I usually run kaoss pad, stereo compressor, or other effects.
>; Its pretty flexible, with a hardware compressor u can even get CS to do
> paralell compression without a mixer.
> On Jan 26, 2013 12:24 AM, "nikitsanpsix" wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks to all for answers to the Board.
> >
> > the result is that it can be achieved only by using the stereo output of
> > your mixer or guitar pedals and connecting them to returns of (both) L and
> > R subouts.
> >
> >
> >
>