Synth-DIY Yahoo! Groups Archives

Thread

Re: [xl7] Song Recording with Patterns

2012-12-03 by D F Tweedie

How funny! I just posted a similar question about beats!

There may be better ways, but what I did was simply midi record the pattern into my DAW sequencer, setting up 16 tracks fed from my PX7, each set to a different midi channel.

I did a preroll on record and then punched play. All the track then recorded out. You do have to go to the midi menu and select 'transmit' under 'Keyboard MIDI Output.'� You can also do that, select 'transmit' in the midi menu for the controller.

While your pattern/ songs are playing you can then turn tracks off and on 'on the fly.' You midi record your whole performance and edit to taste in your DAW. Now your turn your midi tracks around and instead of them getting MIDI input from the unit, you change the unit target to midi output from your tracks.

You are now ready to render the midi to audio, if that's what your goal is.

Ideally, you 'track' and record each midi track separately to audio ... so you can do a full on audio mix down.

Also, either while recording the audio ... or better, with recording midi ... you can also have a go at the controllers on a track by track basis for modulation fun. If you record the midi output while tweaking, you can then edit it in midi to get real precise with the modulations.

�

CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication with its contents may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. It is solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). Unauthorized interception, review, use or disclosure is prohibited and may violate applicable laws including the Electronic Communications Privacy Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the communication.

From: vivaknievel
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2012 10:25 PM
Subject: [xl7] Song Recording with Patterns

�

Hi, everyone!

First off, thanks to those of you who chimed in when I was poised to sell my MP-7. I did keep it, and finally have had time to sit down with the manual and tinker, in general. Happy accidents have led to a understanding of how to do most of the basic things I really wanted to do.

I have a pattern that's pretty long and varied. I'm finding that realtime recording is meant only for the pads, and step recording as I currently understand it is more ideal for short patterns or ones in which any changes to the pattern occur on downbeat one of subsequent patterns. I'm prepared to either bounce all 16 tracks into a DAW and manually build the song, but wanted to check with you first: Is there anyway that I might be missing, to record the muting and unmuting of tracks on the fly? Bringing in parts, say at measure two, instead of having to wait until the next bar begins, or to be able to capture a "performance" in which I'm rhythmically muting a track for a stutter/slice effect?

It's not the end of the world if it's not possible, but I wanted to make sure before I try something else. Thanks very much for all the great info here - I'm love my Command Station. I look forward to getting more ROMs, but so far, I'm able to get a lot of great stuff by manipulating the presets in the MP-7.

- J

Re: [xl7] Song Recording with Patterns

2012-12-03 by Bruno

2012/12/3 vivaknievel <jammesluckett@...>:
> First off, thanks to those of you who chimed in when I was poised to sell my MP-7.  I did keep it, and finally have had time to sit down with the manual and tinker, in general. Happy accidents have led to a understanding of how to do most of the basic things I really wanted to do.

Congrats :-) Command Stations are awesome, so it's always better to
keep them than to get rid of them.

> I have a pattern that's pretty long and varied.  I'm finding that realtime recording is meant only for the pads, and step recording as I currently understand it is more ideal for short patterns or ones in which any changes to the pattern occur on downbeat one of subsequent patterns. I'm prepared to either bounce all 16 tracks into a DAW and manually build the song, but wanted to check with you first:  Is there anyway that I might be missing, to record the muting and unmuting of tracks on the fly?  Bringing in parts, say at measure two, instead of having to wait until the next bar begins, or to be able to capture a "performance" in which I'm rhythmically muting a track for a stutter/slice effect?

You cannot do it in pattern, since it's... erm, a pattern. If you want
to cut off part of the track, use the editing operations.

However, you can use your pattern in song mode, then mute/unmute
tracks - and those changes will be recorded (I assume).

Regards,

Bruno

Re: [xl7] Song Recording with Patterns

2012-12-03 by Matt

Ya u need to use song mode to do what ur trying to do.

On Dec 3, 2012 2:54 AM, "Bruno" <brunorc@...> wrote:

2012/12/3 vivaknievel <jammesluckett@...>:
> First off, thanks to those of you who chimed in when I was poised to sell my MP-7. I did keep it, and finally have had time to sit down with the manual and tinker, in general. Happy accidents have led to a understanding of how to do most of the basic things I really wanted to do.

Congrats :-) Command Stations are awesome, so it's always better to
keep them than to get rid of them.

> I have a pattern that's pretty long and varied. I'm finding that realtime recording is meant only for the pads, and step recording as I currently understand it is more ideal for short patterns or ones in which any changes to the pattern occur on downbeat one of subsequent patterns. I'm prepared to either bounce all 16 tracks into a DAW and manually build the song, but wanted to check with you first: Is there anyway that I might be missing, to record the muting and unmuting of tracks on the fly? Bringing in parts, say at measure two, instead of having to wait until the next bar begins, or to be able to capture a "performance" in which I'm rhythmically muting a track for a stutter/slice effect?

You cannot do it in pattern, since it's... erm, a pattern. If you want
to cut off part of the track, use the editing operations.

However, you can use your pattern in song mode, then mute/unmute
tracks - and those changes will be recorded (I assume).

Regards,

Bruno

Re: Song Recording with Patterns

2012-12-04 by Ms. J Luckett

Thanks, DF, Bruno and Matt!

Yes, keeping a Command Station is much better than selling one.  lol

Bruno and Matt - I was already in Song mode; Every part was recorded  
in one pattern, and I thought I'd be able to record a manual muting of  
the tracks in that pattern once I brought it into Song mode, instead  
of creating multiple variations of the same pattern with the changes  
already in place, or extensive editing.  I thought I had found a  
clever little shortcut, but alas!

DF - You hit the nail on the head.  I was prepared to do straight  
audio bouncing as a last resort, but the MIDI / DAW scenario you  
mentioned, sounds like the perfect solution to get the parts exactly  
as I want, with some wiggle room to try out different arrangements.

Thank you guys, so much for your responses!

- J

Re: [xl7] Re: Song Recording with Patterns

2012-12-04 by Matt

What do you mean? It will sequence the track on off with song mode as well as knob turns. It stores them in the song track.

On Dec 4, 2012 12:35 PM, "Ms. J Luckett" <jammesluckett@...> wrote:

Thanks, DF, Bruno and Matt!

Yes, keeping a Command Station is much better than selling one. lol

Bruno and Matt - I was already in Song mode; Every part was recorded
in one pattern, and I thought I'd be able to record a manual muting of
the tracks in that pattern once I brought it into Song mode, instead
of creating multiple variations of the same pattern with the changes
already in place, or extensive editing. I thought I had found a
clever little shortcut, but alas!

DF - You hit the nail on the head. I was prepared to do straight
audio bouncing as a last resort, but the MIDI / DAW scenario you
mentioned, sounds like the perfect solution to get the parts exactly
as I want, with some wiggle room to try out different arrangements.

Thank you guys, so much for your responses!

- J