Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

2012/11/22 steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...>:
> On the CS, in OS2.0, via the MIDI button/menu system, there is a TRANSMIT MIDI CLOCK parameter. The options are off, on - MIDI A Out, on - MIDI B out, and on - MIDI A & B Out.
>
> Hope this helps.

Not trying to be nitpicking, but this is MIDI Clock, and Start/Stop is
MMC (MIDI Machine Control). It would make no sense, however, to send
only MMC with no Clock at all...

Bruno

i tried turning the transmit midi clock to off but it still switches the sampler out of the module. i guess i can live with it though, or get an asr-10 instead : /




--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Bruno <brunorc@...> wrote:
>
> 2012/11/22 steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...>:
> > On the CS, in OS2.0, via the MIDI button/menu system, there is a TRANSMIT MIDI CLOCK parameter. The options are off, on - MIDI A Out, on - MIDI B out, and on - MIDI A & B Out.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> 
> Not trying to be nitpicking, but this is MIDI Clock, and Start/Stop is
> MMC (MIDI Machine Control). It would make no sense, however, to send
> only MMC with no Clock at all...
> 
> Bruno
>

Hmmmmm. I thought MMC was something different. Just looked it up--I was right--MMC is something totally different. I also thought that parameter controlled Midi start (FA), continue (FB), and stop (FC)bytes as well as F8s [midi clock]. I will see if I can test this.
Steve


--- In xl7@...m, Bruno <brunorc@...> wrote:
>
> 2012/11/22 steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...>:
> > On the CS, in OS2.0, via the MIDI button/menu system, there is a TRANSMIT MIDI CLOCK parameter. The options are off, on - MIDI A Out, on - MIDI B out, and on - MIDI A & B Out.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> 
> Not trying to be nitpicking, but this is MIDI Clock, and Start/Stop is
> MMC (MIDI Machine Control). It would make no sense, however, to send
> only MMC with no Clock at all...
> 
> Bruno
>

the original eiii has the option to turn off external song start/stop receive. the eiiix does not have this feature. every other feature in the midi sub menu is the same as the original eiii except it is missing that parameter : (




--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@...> wrote:
>
> I am not familiar with the e-mu eiii specs or operation. I will see if I have a manual.
> 
> One thing--does the sequencer have a start-on-note-received parameter?
> 
> Another thing, the CS sequencer sends some basic data as sysex when you dial up a sequence. Not sure if that could be the source of your problem. I need to re-read the original post to see when you said the change happened.
> 
> Steve
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "dutchbeats" <dutchbeats@> wrote:
> >
> > i tried turning the transmit midi clock to off but it still switches the sampler out of the module. i guess i can live with it though, or get an asr-10 instead : /
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Bruno <brunorc@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 2012/11/22 steve_the_composer <smw-mail@>:
> > > > On the CS, in OS2.0, via the MIDI button/menu system, there is a TRANSMIT MIDI CLOCK parameter. The options are off, on - MIDI A Out, on - MIDI B out, and on - MIDI A & B Out.
> > > >
> > > > Hope this helps.
> > > 
> > > Not trying to be nitpicking, but this is MIDI Clock, and Start/Stop is
> > > MMC (MIDI Machine Control). It would make no sense, however, to send
> > > only MMC with no Clock at all...
> > > 
> > > Bruno
> > >
> >
>

Hmmmmm. If the "module switching" [not sure what that is] only happens when you press play, not when you dial up a new pattern, then I don't think the source of the problem is the pre-roll sysex data that gets sent.

Out of curiosity, what "modules" does the eiii switch out of and what mode does it switch into?

Steve

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "dutchbeats" <dutchbeats@...> wrote:
>
> hey all, i just hooked up an e-mu eiiix sampler to my xl-7 and for some reason whenever i press play on the command station, the eiiix jumps out of whatever module is selected! as luck would have it, the part of the manual online for the eiiix for what i need for change this was left out so i had to use the same section from the original eiii manual. 
> 
> however, in the eiii manual there is the option of turning on and off external sequencer start/stop commands but this option is not available on the eiiix : ( i looked every where on the command station to see if i can turn off sequencer start/stop send commands but maybe i am missing something? i'll have to also ask on gearslutz or something if there is any way to change this within eiiix but alas.....
> 
> i might have to just get used to starting the sequencer twice quickly when moving in and out of editing modules in the eiiix, although i think most of the editing will be done with the sequencer stopped anyway. i have come to realize every sampler has a fatal flaw and in comparison to other samplers i've tried it's not that bad
>

Thanks for the explanation; it clarifies the problem. 

It is still a mystery as to what kind of data is causing the sampler to jump out of any of the edit modes and into the default preset mode. 

Steve

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "dutchbeats" <dutchbeats@...> wrote:
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> thanks steve. module is e-mu vernacular for any of the function buttons. digital processing, preset management, master/globals etc. when you press any of these the light next to the button is lit and you can access the menus and functions within. pressing play on the cs takes you out of any of these modules and back to the blank display with the current preset number at the top which is the generic mode it is always in when no module/function buttons are lit
> 
> it is just the play button though not stop or record, and once play is pressed i can go back into any of the modules while it is playing. just a minor wrinkle in the work flow as most sample editing is done when the sequencer is stopped. using the filter in real time with the sequencer or doing any live parameter changes might be challenging but the filter only changes when the sample is retriggered anyway
> 
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> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@> wrote:
> >
> > Hmmmmm. If the "module switching" [not sure what that is] only happens when you press play, not when you dial up a new pattern, then I don't think the source of the problem is the pre-roll sysex data that gets sent.
> > 
> > Out of curiosity, what "modules" does the eiii switch out of and what mode does it switch into?
> > 
> > Steve
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "dutchbeats" <dutchbeats@> wrote:
> > >
> > > hey all, i just hooked up an e-mu eiiix sampler to my xl-7 and for some reason whenever i press play on the command station, the eiiix jumps out of whatever module is selected! as luck would have it, the part of the manual online for the eiiix for what i need for change this was left out so i had to use the same section from the original eiii manual. 
> > > 
> > > however, in the eiii manual there is the option of turning on and off external sequencer start/stop commands but this option is not available on the eiiix : ( i looked every where on the command station to see if i can turn off sequencer start/stop send commands but maybe i am missing something? i'll have to also ask on gearslutz or something if there is any way to change this within eiiix but alas.....
> > > 
> > > i might have to just get used to starting the sequencer twice quickly when moving in and out of editing modules in the eiiix, although i think most of the editing will be done with the sequencer stopped anyway. i have come to realize every sampler has a fatal flaw and in comparison to other samplers i've tried it's not that bad
> > >
> >
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