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Here is the deal, I have a yamaha rs7000 and I would really like to use it as my main sequencer. I also have ableton live. I really enjoy the acoustic sounds from the proteus. I don't really have alot of time on my hands to learn the sequencer, even though I know that it is rock solid. 

How then could I use the proteus as a simple rack sequencer? That way I could quickly lay things out on the yamaha or ableton and quickly work the proteus into my setup.

Thanks in advance.

Hi there
These instructions are for xx-7 command station. Ymmv for Proteus 2500 but should be similar.
If you want to use it as a sound module what I would do is put it in multi mode, and then send it stuff on different channels and set the patch for each channel. Make sure you have the "rechannelize" set to "off". You can find the rechannelize setting in the "MIDI" menu.
You can send it CCs as well. Some of the ccs like volume (7) and pan (10?) are hard routed. Some of the other ccs can be chosen by the user. These are selected in the real time controller setting underneath the "controllers" menu and are labeled by the letter of the knob. Then these real time controllers are routed to do different things inside the "preset edit"under "cords".
If you want to use the xx-7 sequencer simultaneously, some users including myself have had lots of latency problems with ableton. I also have an rs-7000 and am on the other side of this fence since I know how to use the xx-7 and not the rs-7000 so the rs-7000 is in storage right now :(
I hope to start using the rs-7000 for its powerful sampling abilities soon. I could imagine the xx-7 being a great controller for the rs with its 13 velocity and after touch sensive pads. The proteus2500 not as much, however the knobs are still route able and cool.
If you aren't using the sequencer, knobs or pads then really you may want to consider getting the smaller, 1u rack space, Proteus 2000 (or compatible niche unit like the orbit 3, or the Turbo phatt) module, since it has all the features you want, as well as the same voices, but with double the MIDI inputs for 32 channel control.
I am sure there are users here who have extra ones of these lying around who would be glad to sell to you.
Please other users chime in if I missed anything, Im sure I have.
-matt

Do you have a manual? The only thing you must do is disengage the internal sequencer from the midi machine messages sent from Ableton (or any DAW) when you start the sequencer in the 2.5K ... otherwise it will trigger the loops instead of the sounds. I did this with my PK7 to use it as a sound module, instead of sequencer. I don't recall the exact terms used in the manual by EMU at the moment, but I think I just browsed the index until I saw something about 'external' or 'modules.' I do remember that is was a simple matter to flip through a couple of screens and change a value.


The other part is simply (or not, sometimes!) to set up the bank and patch numbers within Ableton to send the selection messages to the 2.5K. Or you can set them by hand on the synth.

How complicated this will be depends upon how sophisticated a setup you want. I don't know how creating or setting up patch maps work in Ableton, but I imagine it can be tedious if you have to do it from scratch.

DF

 
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 From: adekoyote_prime <drbambooli@...>
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 9:50 AM
Subject: [xl7] how to use the proteus 2500 as a sound module
 

  
Here is the deal, I have a yamaha rs7000 and I would really like to use it as my main sequencer. I also have ableton live. I really enjoy the acoustic sounds from the proteus. I don't really have alot of time on my hands to learn the sequencer, even though I know that it is rock solid. 

How then could I use the proteus as a simple rack sequencer? That way I could quickly lay things out on the yamaha or ableton and quickly work the proteus into my setup.

Thanks in advance.

Df do you have latency issues with ableton if not how did you resolve this?
Thanks
matt

Matt, 


I have Ableton, but I don't use it. I'm using Cubase 6 just about full-time, since I love it's midi features.

(BTW ... go over to KVR and look for Vortex by Home Grown Sounds. It's a multitimbral (12 sequencers, each assignable to any midi channel with timing up to 32 bars) MIDI VSTi. It's kind of along the line of Consequence, but seems a whole lot friendlier to anyone trying to sequence hardware from a DAW.)

I suspect the latency might be a midi hardware issue. 
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/Oct02/articles/pcmusician1002.asp

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/dec07/articles/cubasetech_1207.htm

I had a hard time going x64 because I knew it would obsolete my MOTU Midi Time Piece parallel 32 bit hardware ... but I did.

Through the above articles I learned that Cubase, which I was already using,  had a special 'linear time base' proprietary buffering system incorporated into its MIDEX line of  midi patch bays. Then about 6 months ago there was an announcement on one of the Steinberg forums that a company engineer had developed some 'unsupported' x64 drivers for the discontinued MIDEX line. I promptly bought one off ebay and one off craigs. 

They aren't as versatile as the MOTUs with multiple routing options through software, but they are solid.

BTW, regarding your suggestion of a 2K as an alternative. In your opinion, the 24bit audio and faster processor of the 2.5K is not that big of an advantage? I've been mulling between the two, had pretty much decided on the 2.5K for the above reasons and recently got outbid for one. So, I got time to think it through again. Any input would be appreciated!

DF


 
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 From: Matt <somatt@...>
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: [xl7] how to use the proteus 2500 as a sound module
 

  
Df do you have latency issues with ableton if not how did you resolve this?
Thanks
matt
On Feb 12, 2012 10:31 AM, "D F Tweedie" <bienpegaito@...> wrote:

 
>  
>Do you have a manual? The only thing you must do is disengage the internal sequencer from the midi machine messages sent from Ableton (or any DAW) when you start the sequencer in the 2.5K ... otherwise it will trigger the loops instead of the sounds. I did this with my PK7 to use it as a sound module, instead of sequencer. I don't recall the exact terms used in the manual by EMU at the moment, but I think I just browsed the index until I saw something about 'external' or 'modules.' I do remember that is was a simple matter to flip through a couple of screens and change a value.
>
>
>
>The other part is simply (or not, sometimes!) to set up the bank and patch numbers within Ableton to send the selection messages to the 2.5K. Or you can set them by hand on the synth.
>
>
>How complicated this will be depends upon how sophisticated a setup you want. I don't know how creating or setting up patch maps work in Ableton, but I imagine it can be tedious if you have to do it from scratch.
>
>
>DF
>
> 
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> From: adekoyote_prime <drbambooli@...>
>To: xl7@...m 
>Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 9:50 AM
>Subject: [xl7] how to use the proteus 2500 as a sound module
> 
>
>  
>Here is the deal, I have a yamaha rs7000 and I would really like to use it as my main sequencer. I also have ableton live. I really enjoy the acoustic sounds from the proteus. I don't really have alot of time on my hands to learn the sequencer, even though I know that it is rock solid. 
>
>How then could I use the proteus as a simple rack sequencer? That way I could quickly lay things out on the yamaha or ableton and quickly work the proteus into my setup.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
>

2012/2/12 Matt <somatt@...>
> If you want to use it as a sound module what I would do is put it in multi mode, and then send it stuff on different channels and set the patch for each channel.  Make sure you have the "rechannelize" set to "off".  You can find the rechannelize setting in the "MIDI" menu.

Also you want to set "MIDI mode" to "multi" and use "MIDI Enable" for
appriopriate channels - both settings in the "Master"menu. You may
want to use other parameters available there (reacting to Program
Change and Program Change mapping), but I wouldn't bother at the
beginning. Realtime controllers, mentioned by Matt, can be mapped to
"physical" MIDI CC controllers, e.g. you can set the filter cutoff and
resonance to CCs 74 & 71, which afaik is typical for Yamaha gear.

Personally I wouldn't change P2500 for P2000 - I played a bit on XK-6
and I found the ability to use the 16 buttons to access pages of
Preset menu very comfortable.

Bruno

I knew I had overlooked something! :)

I thought that the 32 channels of MIDI in might be a manageable trade off for faster processor since he was using only the sequencer in the rs-7000, which has quite a few MIDI outs if i recall properly.
The higher bits also depends what type of sounds you are doing, and if you are using the onboard effects also, but from the OPs post it sounds like he enjoys the easier programming of the program edit buttons, and will need the extra bits because he's doing natural sounds with it, and will need the dynamic range that higher bit converters can provide.
There are a bunch of form factors of these, each with its own niche and peculiarities.
I use a xx-7, but have a few of these 1u rack modules too.

Actually one of the main functions of the command stations/proteus 2500 is to handle lots of MIDI information very fast and in a intuitive way, in order to control other hardware gear, I suppose that´s the reason of their name. They are absolutely great hardware sequencers, and very useful on a live setup performance.    On MULTI mode, practice controlling two synths with MIDI outputs A & B.  You just have to be very organized with patterns and the assignation you give to the tracks.  I normally use tracks 1-8 to send notes and CC to other synths through MIDI A, and tracks 9-16 to send MIDI data through MIDI B. 


Adekoyote ,  I still insisting, update your O.S,  because there are HUGE improvements between the first and the last O.S.   Lots of functions were added on the last  O.S. like the megamix mode, inputing notes with the knobs on grid recording mode,  direct access to the tracks without having to use the dial wheel,  startpoint change on the sequencer notes, etc etc.  


I have become so dependant of the EMU´s sequencing concept, that I just can´t play live without them.  Recently I adquired my third unit,  having 3 command stations on a live setup, is a blast. 




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 From: Matt <somatt@...>
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: [xl7] how to use the proteus 2500 as a sound module
 

  
I knew I had overlooked something! :)
On Feb 12, 2012 1:24 PM, "Bruno" <brunorc@gmail.com> wrote:

 
>  
>2012/2/12 Matt <somatt@...>
>> If you want to use it as a sound module what I would do is put it in multi mode, and then send it stuff on different channels and set the patch for each channel.  Make sure you have the "rechannelize" set to "off".  You can find the rechannelize setting in the "MIDI" menu.
>
>Also you want to set "MIDI mode" to "multi" and use "MIDI Enable" for
>appriopriate channels - both settings in the "Master"menu. You may
>want to use other parameters available there (reacting to Program
>Change and Program Change mapping), but I wouldn't bother at the
>beginning. Realtime controllers, mentioned by Matt, can be mapped to
>"physical" MIDI CC controllers, e.g. you can set the filter cutoff and
>resonance to CCs 74 & 71, which afaik is typical for Yamaha gear.
>
>Personally I wouldn't change P2500 for P2000 - I played a bit on XK-6
>and I found the ability to use the 16 buttons to access pages of
>Preset menu very comfortable.
>
>Bruno
>

...with Ableton===, I make love to my EMU=====, try returning some EMU audio to Ableton...mmmm...nice...it's a-loop..aye... fiasco...sweet
love all ya good werk
Cheers!!



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 From: Mauricio Balma <balmaproducer@...>
To: "xl7@yahoogroups.com" <xl7@yahoogroups.com> 
Sent: Monday, 13 February 2012 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [xl7] how to use the proteus 2500 as a sound module
 

  
Actually one of the main functions of the command stations/proteus 2500 is to handle lots of MIDI information very fast and in a intuitive way, in order to control other hardware gear, I suppose that´s the reason of their name. They are absolutely great hardware sequencers, and very useful on a live setup performance.    On MULTI mode, practice controlling two synths with MIDI outputs A & B.  You just have to be very organized with patterns and the assignation you give to the tracks.  I normally use tracks 1-8 to send notes and CC to other synths through MIDI A, and tracks 9-16 to send MIDI data through MIDI B. 


Adekoyote ,  I still insisting, update your O.S,  because there are HUGE improvements between the first and the last O.S.   Lots of functions were added on the last  O.S. like the megamix mode, inputing notes with the knobs on grid recording mode,  direct access to the tracks without having to use the dial wheel,  startpoint change on the sequencer notes, etc etc.  


I have become so dependant of the EMU´s sequencing concept, that I just can´t play live without them.  Recently I adquired my third unit,  having 3 command stations on a live setup, is a blast. 




________________________________
 From: Matt <somatt@...>
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: [xl7] how to use the proteus 2500 as a sound module
 

  
I knew I had overlooked something! :)
On Feb 12, 2012 1:24 PM, "Bruno" <brunorc@...> wrote:

 
>  
>2012/2/12 Matt <somatt@...>
>> If you want to use it as a sound module what I would do is put it in multi mode, and then send it stuff on different channels and set the patch for each channel.  Make sure you have the "rechannelize" set to "off".  You can find the rechannelize setting in the "MIDI" menu.
>
>Also you want to set "MIDI mode" to "multi" and use "MIDI Enable" for
>appriopriate channels - both settings in the "Master"menu. You may
>want to use other parameters available there (reacting to Program
>Change and Program Change mapping), but I wouldn't bother at the
>beginning. Realtime controllers, mentioned by Matt, can be mapped to
>"physical" MIDI CC controllers, e.g. you can set the filter cutoff and
>resonance to CCs 74 & 71, which afaik is typical for Yamaha gear.
>
>Personally I wouldn't change P2500 for P2000 - I played a bit on XK-6
>and I found the ability to use the 16 buttons to access pages of
>Preset menu very comfortable.
>
>Bruno
>

2012/2/12 Matt <somatt@...>
>
> I knew I had overlooked something! :)

Community wisdom FTW! :-)

Bruno

I'm jealous fred my latency issue prevents me from doing this :(

Actually I have updated the proteus 2500 to version 2.0

I just wanted to kind of do baby steps, I guess. I do love the proteus but I find the yamaha a bit more accessible at this time. Maybe it is the time readout screen, or the fact the the proteus sits vertical...I am working on it, but the going is kind of slower than I anticipated.

So I guess I am still stepping into it. 

In terms of the sequencer I will be the first to admit I am clueless. I just don't overstand general operations yet...but I do love the sound...the string, organs, and drums I love for their richness.

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Mauricio Balma <balmaproducer@...> wrote:
>
> Actually one of the main functions of the command stations/proteus 2500 is to handle lots of MIDI information very fast and in a intuitive way, in order to control other hardware gear, I suppose that´s the reason of their name. They are absolutely great hardware sequencers, and very useful on a live setup performance.    On MULTI mode, practice controlling two synths with MIDI outputs A & B.  You just have to be very organized with patterns and the assignation you give to the tracks.  I normally use tracks 1-8 to send notes and CC to other synths through MIDI A, and tracks 9-16 to send MIDI data through MIDI B. 
> 
> 
> Adekoyote ,  I still insisting, update your O.S,  because there are HUGE improvements between the first and the last O.S.   Lots of functions were added on the last  O.S. like the megamix mode, inputing notes with the knobs on grid recording mode,  direct access to the tracks without having to use the dial wheel,  startpoint change on the sequencer notes, etc etc.  
> 
> 
> I have become so dependant of the EMU´s sequencing concept, that I just can´t play live without them.  Recently I adquired my third unit,  having 3 command stations on a live setup, is a blast. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
>  From: Matt <somatt@...>
> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 11:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [xl7] how to use the proteus 2500 as a sound module
>  
> 
>   
> I knew I had overlooked something! :)
> On Feb 12, 2012 1:24 PM, "Bruno" <brunorc@...> wrote:
> 
>  
> >  
> >2012/2/12 Matt <somatt@...>
> >> If you want to use it as a sound module what I would do is put it in multi mode, and then send it stuff on different channels and set the patch for each channel.  Make sure you have the "rechannelize" set to "off".  You can find the rechannelize setting in the "MIDI" menu.
> >
> >Also you want to set "MIDI mode" to "multi" and use "MIDI Enable" for
> >appriopriate channels - both settings in the "Master"menu. You may
> >want to use other parameters available there (reacting to Program
> >Change and Program Change mapping), but I wouldn't bother at the
> >beginning. Realtime controllers, mentioned by Matt, can be mapped to
> >"physical" MIDI CC controllers, e.g. you can set the filter cutoff and
> >resonance to CCs 74 & 71, which afaik is typical for Yamaha gear.
> >
> >Personally I wouldn't change P2500 for P2000 - I played a bit on XK-6
> >and I found the ability to use the 16 buttons to access pages of
> >Preset menu very comfortable.
> >
> >Bruno
> >
>

2012/2/14 adekoyote_prime <drbambooli@...>:
> or the fact the the proteus sits vertical...

It may be the case. I imagine that P2500 is actually a Command Station
without pads. Well, it would be a heavy pain for me to operate my MP7
vertically. I noticed how easier it was to operate Supernova II after
putting it in an angled rack (like this one -
http://www.audiokomputer.republika.pl/313-047_g1.jpg), just above the
MP7.

Bruno

LOL, Bruno!

We are on the same wave length ... that's exactly the type I have that I boughton linefrom Guitar Center. All my modules sit in the top part and I use the bottom part for audio and midi patch bays.

DF

 
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 From: Bruno <brunorc@...>
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: how to use the proteus 2500 as a sound module
 

  
2012/2/14 adekoyote_prime <drbambooli@...>:
> or the fact the the proteus sits vertical...

It may be the case. I imagine that P2500 is actually a Command Station
without pads. Well, it would be a heavy pain for me to operate my MP7
vertically. I noticed how easier it was to operate Supernova II after
putting it in an angled rack (like this one -
http://www.audiokomputer.republika.pl/313-047_g1.jpg), just above the
MP7.

Bruno

I bought similar one omnirax one from craigslist with fiberboard sides for 40 bucks.

...I know...but you can...actually deal with the latency in Ableton...there are so many knobs to tweak...the emu is quite receptive to audio "in" as well....
keep up the good werk!



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 From: Matt <somatt@...>
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, 14 February 2012 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: [xl7] how to use the proteus 2500 as a sound module
 

  
I'm jealous fred my latency issue prevents me from doing this :(
On Feb 13, 2012 12:37 AM, "Fred Smith" <rs6000jade@...> wrote:

 
>  
>...with Ableton===, I make love to my EMU=====, try returning some EMU audio to Ableton...mmmm...nice...it's a-loop..aye... fiasco...sweet
>love all ya good werk
>Cheers!!
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
> From: Mauricio Balma <balmaproducer@...>
>To: "xl7@yahoogroups.com" <xl7@yahoogroups.com> 
>Sent: Monday, 13 February 2012 12:25 PM
>Subject: Re: [xl7] how to use the proteus 2500 as a sound module
> 
>
>  
>Actually one of the main functions of the command stations/proteus 2500 is to handle lots of MIDI information very fast and in a intuitive way, in order to control other hardware gear, I suppose that´s the reason of their name. They are absolutely great hardware sequencers, and very useful on a live setup performance.    On MULTI mode, practice controlling two synths with MIDI outputs A & B.  You just have to be very organized with patterns and the assignation you give to the tracks.  I normally use tracks 1-8 to send notes and CC to other synths through MIDI A, and tracks 9-16 to send MIDI data through MIDI B. 
>
>
>
>Adekoyote ,  I still insisting, update your O.S,  because there are HUGE improvements between the first and the last O.S.   Lots of functions were added on the last  O.S. like the megamix mode, inputing notes with the knobs on grid recording mode,  direct access to the tracks without having to use the dial wheel,  startpoint change on the sequencer notes, etc etc.  
>
>
>
>I have become so dependant of the EMU´s sequencing concept, that I just can´t play live without them.  Recently I adquired my third unit,  having 3 command stations on a live setup, is a blast. 
>
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
> From: Matt <somatt@...>
>To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 11:57 PM
>Subject: Re: [xl7] how to use the proteus 2500 as a sound module
> 
>
>  
>I knew I had overlooked something! :)
>On Feb 12, 2012 1:24 PM, "Bruno" <brunorc@...> wrote:
>
> 
>>  
>>2012/2/12 Matt <somatt@...>
>>> If you want to use it as a sound module what I would do is put it in multi mode, and then send it stuff on different channels and set the patch for each channel.  Make sure you have the "rechannelize" set to "off".  You can find the rechannelize setting in the "MIDI" menu.
>>
>>Also you want to set "MIDI mode" to "multi" and use "MIDI Enable" for
>>appriopriate channels - both settings in the "Master"menu. You may
>>want to use other parameters available there (reacting to Program
>>Change and Program Change mapping), but I wouldn't bother at the
>>beginning. Realtime controllers, mentioned by Matt, can be mapped to
>>"physical" MIDI CC controllers, e.g. you can set the filter cutoff and
>>resonance to CCs 74 & 71, which afaik is typical for Yamaha gear.
>>
>>Personally I wouldn't change P2500 for P2000 - I played a bit on XK-6
>>and I found the ability to use the 16 buttons to access pages of
>>Preset menu very comfortable.
>>
>>Bruno
>>
>
>
>
>

What is that stand called and how much did it cost?

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, D F Tweedie <bienpegaito@...> wrote:
>
> LOL, Bruno!
> 
> We are on the same wave length ... that's exactly the type I have that I boughton linefrom Guitar Center. All my modules sit in the top part and I use the bottom part for audio and midi patch bays.
> 
> DF
> 
>  
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> 
> 
> ________________________________
>  From: Bruno <brunorc@...>
> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 12:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: how to use the proteus 2500 as a sound module
>  
> 
>   
> 2012/2/14 adekoyote_prime <drbambooli@...>:
> > or the fact the the proteus sits vertical...
> 
> It may be the case. I imagine that P2500 is actually a Command Station
> without pads. Well, it would be a heavy pain for me to operate my MP7
> vertically. I noticed how easier it was to operate Supernova II after
> putting it in an angled rack (like this one -
> http://www.audiokomputer.republika.pl/313-047_g1.jpg), just above the
> MP7.
> 
> Bruno
>

The one from guitar center is $59.00 and needs about $30.00 of hardware, the bolts and nut-clips. It's called a 'stage mixer stand.'

DF

 
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 From: adekoyote_prime <drbambooli@...>
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 2:34 PM
Subject: [xl7] Re: how to use the proteus 2500 as a sound module
 

  
What is that stand called and how much did it cost?

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, D F Tweedie <bienpegaito@...> wrote:
>
> LOL, Bruno!
> 
> We are on the same wave length ... that's exactly the type I have that I boughton linefrom Guitar Center. All my modules sit in the top part and I use the bottom part for audio and midi patch bays.
> 
> DF
> 
>  
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> 
> 
> ________________________________
>  From: Bruno <brunorc@...>
> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 12:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: how to use the proteus 2500 as a sound module
> 
> 
>   
> 2012/2/14 adekoyote_prime <drbambooli@...>:
> > or the fact the the proteus sits vertical...
> 
> It may be the case. I imagine that P2500 is actually a Command Station
> without pads. Well, it would be a heavy pain for me to operate my MP7
> vertically. I noticed how easier it was to operate Supernova II after
> putting it in an angled rack (like this one -
> http://www.audiokomputer.republika.pl/313-047_g1.jpg), just above the
> MP7.
> 
> Bruno
>

Its called a Rack. Or click the link. :)

2012/2/15 adekoyote_prime <drbambooli@...>:
> What is that stand called and how much did it cost?

I would say "angled rack", and the price tag for a new one should be
around 50-70 EUR.

Bruno

Yes, the link should work!

I agree with Matt, I should have said 'rack' not 'stand.' In the states it's called a mixer stage rack or stage mixer rack due to the wheels, which permit moving it around and relocating it easily. Compared to a lot of studio furniture it is very versatile and cost-effective.

DF

 
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2012/2/15 adekoyote_prime <drbambooli@...>:
> What is that stand called and how much did it cost?

I would say "angled rack", and the price tag for a new one should be
around 50-70 EUR.

Bruno