Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

From the E-Mu web page, the 32MB Flash ROM option of the Ultra samplers
is described as "This kit allows you to create your own custom 32MB
sound ROMS that never require loading and provide you with the perfect
way to take your sounds on the road."   From this, I assumed that the
ROM option was a kit that enabled you to write one or more ROMS,
provided you supplied the ROM media.  Instead, the flash ROM kit
consists entirely of a flash ROM itself, so it appears that if you want
multiple ROMS you will need to buy multiple flash ROM option kits.  If
this is correct, at $400 a flash ROM kit, my Ultra/XL7 combo will only
have a single flash ROM.

Support is provided for copying a flash ROM kit to another flash ROM,
but I assume this "target" ROM must be another flash ROM kit.

Is my understanding of the flash ROM usage correct?

Thanks,
Art Gatesy

----- Original Message -----

From: Art Gatesy

To: xl7@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 7:34 PM

Subject: [xl7] Question On Flash ROM Usage

From the E-Mu web page, the 32MB Flash ROM option of the Ultra samplers
is described as "This kit allows you to create your own custom 32MB
sound ROMS that never require loading and provide you with the perfect
way to take your sounds on the road."   From this, I assumed that the
ROM option was a kit that enabled you to write one or more ROMS,
provided you supplied the ROM media.  Instead, the flash ROM kit
consists entirely of a flash ROM itself, so it appears that if you want
multiple ROMS you will need to buy multiple flash ROM option kits.  If
this is correct, at $400 a flash ROM kit, my Ultra/XL7 combo will only
have a single flash ROM.

Support is provided for copying a flash ROM kit to another flash ROM,
but I assume this "target" ROM must be another flash ROM kit.

Is my understanding of the flash ROM usage correct?

Thanks,
Art Gatesy




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Flash ROM really should be called flash RAM.  (R)ead (O)nly (M)emory is
exactly that, read only.  Flash is writable, though it is persistent (meaning
it doesn't get erased when you power down).  The sound ROMs we ship (like
B-3, or XLEAD...) are not writable.  Only the Flash parts are, and the reason
they're expensive is that flash fast enough to support 128 channels is very
costly (unlike other flash like SmartMedia, which is only fast enough to
support around 3 to 4 channels!).

The plural on "This kit allows you to create your own custom 32MB sound ROMS
that..." is misleading and should be singular.

So, yes, when you order the flash kit, you are getting a single special
writable SIMM that you can copy sounds to.

-Aaron

Art Gatesy wrote:

> From the E-Mu web page, the 32MB Flash ROM option of the Ultra samplers
> is described as "This kit allows you to create your own custom 32MB
> sound ROMS that never require loading and provide you with the perfect
> way to take your sounds on the road."   From this, I assumed that the
> ROM option was a kit that enabled you to write one or more ROMS,
> provided you supplied the ROM media.  Instead, the flash ROM kit
> consists entirely of a flash ROM itself, so it appears that if you want
> multiple ROMS you will need to buy multiple flash ROM option kits.  If
> this is correct, at $400 a flash ROM kit, my Ultra/XL7 combo will only
> have a single flash ROM.
>
> Support is provided for copying a flash ROM kit to another flash ROM,
> but I assume this "target" ROM must be another flash ROM kit.
>
> Is my understanding of the flash ROM usage correct?
>
> Thanks,
> Art Gatesy
>
>
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all that sounds great but the main questin remains: does it work ????
all my efforts to find a technician, salesman or user who ever saw (or
heard) a working flash rom in a proteus-module or mp-7 / xl-7 failed. in
eos-samplers flash-roms definitely work.
j.

> Flash ROM really should be called flash RAM.  (R)ead (O)nly (M)emory is
> exactly that, read only.  Flash is writable, though it is persistent
(meaning
> it doesn't get erased when you power down).  The sound ROMs we ship (like
> B-3, or XLEAD...) are not writable.  Only the Flash parts are, and the
reason
> they're expensive is that flash fast enough to support 128 channels is
very
> costly (unlike other flash like SmartMedia, which is only fast enough to
> support around 3 to 4 channels!).
>
> The plural on "This kit allows you to create your own custom 32MB sound
ROMS
> that..." is misleading and should be singular.
>
> So, yes, when you order the flash kit, you are getting a single special
> writable SIMM that you can copy sounds to.
>
> -Aaron

Uh...yes.  It works.  =)

-Aaron

"j.burger" wrote:

> all that sounds great but the main questin remains: does it work ????
> all my efforts to find a technician, salesman or user who ever saw (or
> heard) a working flash rom in a proteus-module or mp-7 / xl-7 failed. in
> eos-samplers flash-roms definitely work.
> j.

--- In xl7@y..., Aaron Eppolito <aarone+xl7@e...> wrote:
> Uh...yes.  It works.  =)

indeed it does...

my summary tests show that it will work. in my E4XTUltra i just author 
the "ROM" as a proteus 2000 bank and it's a done deal.

the E4 gives the Rom a Bank number and that becomes the important 
program change info in the XL/MP

it works, and once inside, it gets better because the proteus filters 
are a little more interesting than the E4 filters and equally as 
controllable via midi.

the misleading bummers are:

only one bank per Rom, so while the manual reads like a hard disk 
instruction, it's really just onebank per chip.

open and close and open and close devices to install (a tedious hassle 
in a well arranged studio)

while i have 16 outs on my E4, i onlyhave 6 outs on my MP-7

but in the end it means not bringing a sampler to the live show. 
and yes, it works without any real issues.

DSS

I have had custom flash roms in my
MP7 as soon as i possibly could.

Lotta presets i couldnt live without from my Ultra:):

Everyone, this is a great thing, hope you enjoy it.

Eddie Fritz

Emu East Coast Guy  who is both a user and a salesman:)







--- In xl7@y..., Aaron Eppolito <aarone+xl7@e...> wrote:
> Uh...yes.  It works.  =)
> 
> -Aaron
> 
> "j.burger" wrote:
> 
> > all that sounds great but the main questin remains: does it 
work ????
> > all my efforts to find a technician, salesman or user who ever 
saw (or
> > heard) a working flash rom in a proteus-module or mp-7 / xl-7 
failed. in
> > eos-samplers flash-roms definitely work.
> > j.