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SoundQuest MIDI Quest?

2011-05-27 by Mibrilane

I am wondering if anyone on this list has had any success getting SoundQuest MIDI Quest XL editor/librarian software to work with the Command Stations, especially in Mac OS X. It only has profiles for the Proteus 2000 and the various module variants, but I am wondering if that can still kinda/sorta be used with an XL-7. My XL-7 also has the Composer ROM installed, so in a pinch it can pretend to be a Proteus 2000. I’m interested in possibly getting this because (a) it also works with two of my other hardware synths (Novation KS4 and Yamaha AN1x) and (b) it does the whole “editor as an AU plug-in” for Logic Pro that would be really useful. I am downloading the demo now, but any anecdotes would be helpful.


Mibrilane
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Re: SoundQuest MIDI Quest?

2011-05-27 by steve_the_composer

If I remember correctly there was an impasse between SoundQuest and E-Mu. I seem to recall they wanted a free Command Station and E-Mu basically said, hey, you are a business and intend to make money--buy one like everyone else does.  (I may not have this right, so I will try to find documentation.) 

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Re: SoundQuest MIDI Quest?

2011-05-27 by steve_the_composer

Hmmmm. Maybe it was SoundDiver I was thinking of. See http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/message/16225 . Also, search the archives for SoundQuest for more discussion.

Re: [xl7] Re: SoundQuest MIDI Quest?

2011-05-28 by Mibrilane

Yeah, the last MIDIQuest discussions were back in 2004 or so (I was actually part of one of them, it seems, talked about MOTU Unisyn working okay - has it been that long?).

Anyway, I was hoping for some user experiences from the past year or so. I sold my Unisyn long ago (about the time I switched over to Logic from DP) and it’s not worth buying again for editing one synth. Besides, the free Proteum editor works fine in Windows XP on Parallels. I haven’t tried the free Mac OS X native Prodatum yet, but I’m sure it works fine as well. A computer editor for the XL-7 is not much of a need, I’m just kind of keen on the idea of having most of my hardware synths as AUs.

The two words I see most often in discussions regarding MIDIQuest are “buggy” and “expensive”. I’ve seen MIDIQuest XL 10 available for about $240 or so - it might be worth that if I could have my hardware act like plug-ins with full recall in Logic. I guess the only way to really know is to try the demo. I haven’t got around to installing it on my iMac yet - that’s this weekend. Hopefully the demo is fully functional and not hobbled - they don’t say what restrictions it has in their demo download area.

I’ll let y’all know what happens in case you’re interested.

On May 27, 2011, at 4:14 PM, steve_the_composer wrote:

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Hmmmm. Maybe it was SoundDiver I was thinking of. See http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/message/16225 . Also, search the archives for SoundQuest for more discussion.

Re: [xl7] Re: SoundQuest MIDI Quest?

2011-05-28 by The Dogg

Absolutely, try it out, I remember saving that site years ago, but have all the Emu modules hooked up through 2 Digidesign HD Midi I/O., working with Digi 001/002/003 LE stopped at protools 7, and Logic pro 7, and use them with my 2 Akai Mpcs 2500's and a 5000, and of course the XL-7, MP-7, and PX-7, Triton Pro and Motif XS 88's...they work great for me, but going with something like SoundQuest really intrigued me. Let us know, even though I'm a Mac user (G4/G5) Also XP on a Dell and Vista on a Quad HP. I just don't know if I want to keep upgrading. I'm Getting tired of trying to keep up. I feel like there is always more to buy, which henders making music. Still Keeping the faith. Thanks guys. Much love to the group. TOMTEL (Truth Evolves Life)  

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From: Mibrilane <mibrilane@...>
Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: SoundQuest MIDI Quest?
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, May 27, 2011, 9:35 PM

Yeah, the last MIDIQuest discussions were back in 2004 or so (I was actually part of one of them, it seems, talked about MOTU Unisyn working okay - has it been that long?).

Anyway, I was hoping for some user experiences from the past year or so. I sold my Unisyn long ago (about the time I switched over to Logic from DP) and it’s not worth buying again for editing one synth. Besides, the free Proteum editor works fine in Windows XP on Parallels. I haven’t tried the free Mac OS X native Prodatum yet, but I’m sure it works fine as well. A computer editor for the XL-7 is not much of a need, I’m just kind of keen on the idea of having most of my hardware synths as AUs.

The two words I see most often in discussions regarding MIDIQuest are “buggy” and “expensive”. I’ve seen MIDIQuest XL 10 available for about $240 or so - it might be worth that if I could have my hardware act like plug-ins with full recall in Logic. I guess the only way to really know is to try the demo. I haven’t got around to installing it on my iMac yet - that’s this weekend. Hopefully the demo is fully functional and not hobbled - they don’t say what restrictions it has in their demo download area.

I’ll let y’all know what happens in case you’re interested.

On May 27, 2011, at 4:14 PM, steve_the_composer wrote:

Hmmmm. Maybe it was SoundDiver I was thinking of. See http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/message/16225 . Also, search the archives for SoundQuest for more discussion.

Re: [xl7] Re: SoundQuest MIDI Quest?

2011-05-28 by Bruno

I tried it out recently. Since Proteum and Prodatum already exist, I
didn't even try P2K, but started with older (and then expected to be
well-supported) synths I use. It failed to support Korg Z1 and Yamaha
SY77 properly; however, I was able to receive & transfer bulk Sysex
dumps from them using their native interface and MIDI Ox.

Frankly, MIDI Ox is for free; and SoundQuest is quarter of a grand. Go
figure. For me it was a definite no-go.

Bruno

2011/5/28 The Dogg <doggtel@...>

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> --- On Fri, 5/27/11, Mibrilane <mibrilane@...> wrote:
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> From: Mibrilane <mibrilane@...>
> Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: SoundQuest MIDI Quest?
> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, May 27, 2011, 9:35 PM
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> Yeah, the last MIDIQuest discussions were back in 2004 or so (I was actually part of one of them, it seems, talked about MOTU Unisyn working okay - has it been that long?).
> Anyway, I was hoping for some user experiences from the past year or so. I sold my Unisyn long ago (about the time I switched over to Logic from DP) and it’s not worth buying again for editing one synth. Besides, the free Proteum editor works fine in Windows XP on Parallels. I haven’t tried the free Mac OS X native Prodatum yet, but I’m sure it works fine as well. A computer editor for the XL-7 is not much of a need, I’m just kind of keen on the idea of having most of my hardware synths as AUs.
> The two words I see most often in discussions regarding MIDIQuest are “buggy” and “expensive”. I’ve seen MIDIQuest XL 10 available for about $240 or so - it might be worth that if I could have my hardware act like plug-ins with full recall in Logic. I guess the only way to really know is to try the demo. I haven’t got around to installing it on my iMac yet - that’s this weekend. Hopefully the demo is fully functional and not hobbled - they don’t say what restrictions it has in their demo download area.
> I’ll let y’all know what happens in case you’re interested.
> On May 27, 2011, at 4:14 PM, steve_the_composer wrote:
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> Hmmmm. Maybe it was SoundDiver I was thinking of. See http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/message/16225 . Also, search the archives for SoundQuest for more discussion.
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Re: [xl7] Re: SoundQuest MIDI Quest?

2011-05-29 by Mibrilane

On May 28, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Bruno wrote:

> I tried it out recently. Since Proteum and Prodatum already exist, I
> didn't even try P2K, but started with older (and then expected to be
> well-supported) synths I use. It failed to support Korg Z1 and Yamaha
> SY77 properly; however, I was able to receive & transfer bulk Sysex
> dumps from them using their native interface and MIDI Ox.

Well, I was able to get the demo to see and (begrudgingly at times) exchange data with my Novation KS4 and Yamaha AN1x. The XL-7 did not fare as well, exchanging all of one patch with the Proteus 2000 profile after about an hour of fiddling with it, and even then it did not display the patch data properly.

> Frankly, MIDI Ox is for free; and SoundQuest is quarter of a grand. Go
> figure. For me it was a definite no-go.

I usually use SysEx Librarian for bulk dumps, which is akin to MIDI OX but for the Mac.

For those who are interested, the MIDIQuest demo limitations appear to be thus:  one cannot save anything, and one cannot edit beyond the first three patches of a bank. I’m not sure whether the problems I had with the P2K module were due to the demo having issues, or whether the problems are in the regular version as well. I have read that apparently the demo version has bugs that aren’t present in the full version - not a very effective demo if that is the case. Anyway, I didn’t even get around to trying the AU integration part - it’s a maddeningly half-assed piece of software and not worth what they’re asking for it. Perhaps someone else has a happier tale about it, but I’m going to pass.

Mibrilane
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Re: [xl7] SoundQuest MIDI Quest?

2011-05-30 by Mibrilane

On May 29, 2011, at 3:19 PM, Mibrilane wrote:

> Anyway, I didn’t even get around to trying the AU integration part ...

Actually, after some further investigation, it seems that the AU integration part isn’t even part of the demo install. I also can’t seem to find any reviews that mention it. Sound Quest’s website says in the download area that there is a MIDIQuest XL 10.0.0.6 Beta for Macintosh OSX that can be downloaded (current version is 10.0.0.5) that “includes an AU bug fix”, so I guess the current version is buggy regarding that feature. Oh well.


Mibrilane
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Re: SoundQuest MIDI Quest?

2011-05-31 by zenastics

No. Soundquest informed me that they were going to release one for the MP7 and XL7.
 That was 2 years ago


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> I am wondering if anyone on this list has had any success getting SoundQuest MIDI Quest XL editor/librarian software to work with the Command Stations, especially in Mac OS X. It only has profiles for the Proteus 2000 and the various module variants, but I am wondering if that can still kinda/sorta be used with an XL-7. My XL-7 also has the Composer ROM installed, so in a pinch it can pretend to be a Proteus 2000. I'm interested in possibly getting this because (a) it also works with two of my other hardware synths (Novation KS4 and Yamaha AN1x) and (b) it does the whole "editor as an AU plug-in" for Logic Pro that would be really useful. I am downloading the demo now, but any anecdotes would be helpful.
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