Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

Howdy folks,

    Has anyone else experienced problems switching back to song mode after
jumping into pattern mode to do a loop?  Most of the time the song picks up
at some random measure that is usually within 10 or 15 measures of where it
left off... which, of course, throws the whole song sequence off.  The
ability to switch seamlessly between song & pattern mode is THE reason I
bought this machine.. anyone know of a way to remedy this?  (Still wonderin'
where to find the SysEx info, too)

Thanks,
    Brach

Song -> Pattern -> Song should work as follows:

When you switch from song mode to pattern mode, the currently playing pattern
will continue to loop indefinitely.  When you switch back to song mode, the
pattern will continue to play *to its loop point* at which point it will loop
and the song will pick up from where that pattern *had started*.

This means that your song will not pick up where it left off, but rather at the
point at which that pattern had stopped.  For example, in the song that
contains:

Bar 01 - Pattern A
Bar 17 - Pattern B
Bar 33 - Pattern C

if you switch from song to pattern at bar 20, Pattern B will loop continuously.
When you switch back, Pattern B will run till its loop point (up to 16 bars
later, depending on when you switched).  Then, it will loop and the song will
pickup at bar 17 (not 20!).  This is done to insure the most seamless transition
(you wouldn't want your pattern to suddenly jump forward 3 bars would you?)...

-Aaron

Urth wrote:

> Howdy folks,
>
>     Has anyone else experienced problems switching back to song mode after
> jumping into pattern mode to do a loop?  Most of the time the song picks up
> at some random measure that is usually within 10 or 15 measures of where it
> left off... which, of course, throws the whole song sequence off.  The
> ability to switch seamlessly between song & pattern mode is THE reason I
> bought this machine.. anyone know of a way to remedy this?  (Still wonderin'
> where to find the SysEx info, too)
>
> Thanks,
>     Brach
>
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I don't know whether this particular machine is defective or if 
this is a software problem, but the song/pattern/song mode switching 
doesn't work correctly.  Sometimes it works as you described... At 
least half of the time, though, it jumps to some random measure after 
it's finsihed the current pattern loop.  For instance, if this is my 
form:

Bar 01 - Pattern A
Bar 05 - Pattern B
Bar 09 - Pattern C
Bar 13 - Pattern D
Bar 17 - ---STOP---

   I switch to pattern mode at bar 07 & let it loop for a while.. 
when I switch back to song mode it finishes the current loop & then 
half the time it just goes randomly to any subsequent measure (lets 
say bar 20).  As in this case, it often jumps beyond the end of the 
sequence & then just continues to endlessly loop the pattern that was 
looping in pattern mode (pattern B) because there are no more pattern 
changes in the sequence (obviously), and there is no stop command, 
since it has already bypassed that measure & skipped over the entire 
remainder of the song form!
  Sometimes, it will return to some bar within the original song mode 
loop, but not change into the next pattern when that bar comes 
around.. (for example, instead of jumping to bar 20 it might go to 
bar 08 then stay on that same pattern (B) on thru bar 09 until it 
reaches the next change into pattern D at bar 13.. skipping pattern C 
completely!)
   Has anyone used this function extensively and NOT had these kind 
of problems?  I was planning to use this unit in live performance, 
but if it continues to do this, it will be useless to me (plus, I 
can't seem to find any other unit that will allow realtime change 
from song to pattern mode & back)... any help would be greatly 
appreciated...

Thanks, 
      Brach



--- In xl7@y..., Aaron Eppolito <aarone+xl7@e...> wrote:
> Song -> Pattern -> Song should work as follows:
> 
> When you switch from song mode to pattern mode, the currently 
playing pattern
> will continue to loop indefinitely.  When you switch back to song 
mode, the
> pattern will continue to play *to its loop point* at which point it 
will loop
> and the song will pick up from where that pattern *had started*.
> 
> This means that your song will not pick up where it left off, but 
rather at the
> point at which that pattern had stopped.  For example, in the song 
that
> contains:
> 
> Bar 01 - Pattern A
> Bar 17 - Pattern B
> Bar 33 - Pattern C
> 
> if you switch from song to pattern at bar 20, Pattern B will loop 
continuously.
> When you switch back, Pattern B will run till its loop point (up to 
16 bars
> later, depending on when you switched).  Then, it will loop and the 
song will
> pickup at bar 17 (not 20!).  This is done to insure the most 
seamless transition
> (you wouldn't want your pattern to suddenly jump forward 3 bars 
would you?)...
> 
> -Aaron