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Hi,

Is it possible to record the output notes of an arp?  I need to do 
this internally - cant record into Cubase or whatever...


Thanks,


Rob

Just make sure the option to transmit arps/riffs to the midi out 
is "on".  You will then be able to capture them with your sequencer.

M2


--- In xl7@y..., "rob99brown" <rob99brown@y...> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Is it possible to record the output notes of an arp?  I need to do 
> this internally - cant record into Cubase or whatever...
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Rob

Yeah but this doesn't work with the internal sequencer....



--- In xl7@y..., "emufreak1" <mmcquay@m...> wrote:
> Just make sure the option to transmit arps/riffs to the midi out 
> is "on".  You will then be able to capture them with your sequencer.
> 
> M2
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@y..., "rob99brown" <rob99brown@y...> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Is it possible to record the output notes of an arp?  I need to 
do 

> > this internally - cant record into Cubase or whatever...
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > 
> > Rob

On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 03:57 PM, rob99brown wrote:

> Yeah but this doesn't work with the internal sequencer....
>
> --- In xl7@y..., "emufreak1" <mmcquay@m...> wrote:
>> Just make sure the option to transmit arps/riffs to the midi out
>> is "on".  You will then be able to capture them with your sequencer.

If you really want to save the 'arpeggiated' notes into the sequencer 
then you need to do that by going out of the box and then back into the 
MIDI In, either using a direct connection or through an external MIDI 
routing box. But normally you don't want to record the arpeggiations 
into the sequence, because then when you play it back you will wind up 
'apreggiating the arpeggiator', which is probably not what you want. 
YMMV.

Scott

Gotcha Scott,

I have a workaround (I only wanted the first 2 beat of the arp, so I 
made my note-ons 2 beats long instead of 4).

Going out of the box and back in is not an option under current 
conditions....

I realise that going out and back would be arping the arp, but of 
course under such conditions I would switch off the arp!...  Although 
arping the arp could produce some interesting results!!!



Rob


--- In xl7@y..., Scott Ruda <scottr@e...> wrote:
> 
> On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 03:57 PM, rob99brown wrote:
> 
> > Yeah but this doesn't work with the internal sequencer....
> >
> > --- In xl7@y..., "emufreak1" <mmcquay@m...> wrote:
> >> Just make sure the option to transmit arps/riffs to the midi out
> >> is "on".  You will then be able to capture them with your 
sequencer.
> 
> If you really want to save the 'arpeggiated' notes into the 
sequencer 
> then you need to do that by going out of the box and then back into 
the 
> MIDI In, either using a direct connection or through an external 
MIDI 
> routing box. But normally you don't want to record the 
arpeggiations 
> into the sequence, because then when you play it back you will wind 
up 
> 'apreggiating the arpeggiator', which is probably not what you 
want. 

> YMMV.
> 
> Scott

You can connect the MIDI Out Port to the MIDI In Port and record them that 
way.  As far as I know this is the only way though...

rEalm





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03/24/02 05:57 PM
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Yeah but this doesn't work with the internal sequencer....



--- In xl7@y..., "emufreak1" <mmcquay@m...> wrote:
> Just make sure the option to transmit arps/riffs to the midi out 
> is "on".  You will then be able to capture them with your sequencer.
> 
> M2
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@y..., "rob99brown" <rob99brown@y...> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Is it possible to record the output notes of an arp?  I need to 
do 
> > this internally - cant record into Cubase or whatever...
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > 
> > Rob



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> 
> If you really want to save the 'arpeggiated' notes into the 
sequencer 
> then you need to do that by going out of the box and then back into 
the 
> MIDI In, either using a direct connection or through an external 
MIDI 
> routing box. But normally you don't want to record the 
arpeggiations 
> into the sequence, because then when you play it back you will wind 
up 
> 'apreggiating the arpeggiator', which is probably not what you 
want. 
> YMMV.
> 
> Scott

That is one of my favorite tricks with the xl-7. You record an 
arpegio type pattern into the sequencer then turn on the arpegiator 
in the patch. By playing around with arpegiator pattern and note 
lengths you can get some really neat sounding stuff. Controling 
arpegio speed from a knob (thank you to whoever thought of this cord) 
lets you add variations and energy where needed.

Ezra

Ezra

Only if you bend your cable.... 

Sorry, bad one I know.

rEalm




Eww!  Kinky!

Eww!  Kinky!

--- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> You can connect the MIDI Out Port to the MIDI In Port and record 
them that 
> way.  As far as I know this is the only way though...
> 
> rEalm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "rob99brown" <rob99brown@y...>
> 03/24/02 05:57 PM
> Please respond to xl7
> 
>  
>         To:     xl7@y...
>         cc: 
>         Subject:        [xl7] Re: arpeggios
> 
> 
> Yeah but this doesn't work with the internal sequencer....
> 
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@y..., "emufreak1" <mmcquay@m...> wrote:
> > Just make sure the option to transmit arps/riffs to the midi out 
> > is "on".  You will then be able to capture them with your 
sequencer.
> > 
> > M2
> > 
> > 
> > --- In xl7@y..., "rob99brown" <rob99brown@y...> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > Is it possible to record the output notes of an arp?  I need to 
> do 
> > > this internally - cant record into Cubase or whatever...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Rob
> 
> 
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Does this result in some rythmic delay stuff or whats the trick?

Heinrich


--- In xl7@y..., "ezra_gold" <ezra_gold@y...> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > If you really want to save the 'arpeggiated' notes into the 
> sequencer 
> > then you need to do that by going out of the box and then back 
into 
> the 
> > MIDI In, either using a direct connection or through an external 
> MIDI 
> > routing box. But normally you don't want to record the 
> arpeggiations 
> > into the sequence, because then when you play it back you will 
wind 
> up 
> > 'apreggiating the arpeggiator', which is probably not what you 
> want. 
> > YMMV.
> > 
> > Scott
> 
> That is one of my favorite tricks with the xl-7. You record an 
> arpegio type pattern into the sequencer then turn on the arpegiator 
> in the patch. By playing around with arpegiator pattern and note 
> lengths you can get some really neat sounding stuff. Controling 
> arpegio speed from a knob (thank you to whoever thought of this 
cord) 

> lets you add variations and energy where needed.
> 
> Ezra
> 
> Ezra

You can use it as a rhythmic delay or a gate type effect (using the 
standard arpegiator control knobs) but I have been using for 
variations in my hook lines. Play or record a slow arpegio into the 
sequencer. Make sure the arpegiated notes are relatively long in 
duration and vary from note to note for interest. Pick another 
arpegio pattern with a similar note structure and turn it on in the 
patch. Now use the arpegio speed knob to start arpegiation within the 
original recorded notes. By experimenting with patterns, note 
lentghts, and knob twiddles you can get some really neat stuff. Your 
hook can start out simple then become frenetic and "blenderized" as 
you twist the knobs during the song. 

I was just thinking about your suggestion to use this as a delay 
effect. I have not tried this yet but I think that when using this 
for delay/gate effects you can have the gate occur in a quantized 
fashion even if the original note was played off beat. I will have to 
play with some mutating background pads tonight. I think that it will 
quantize the note on but I also think that you can change the 
quantize granularity on the fly. Hmmmm a project..

Ezra

--- In xl7@y..., "heinrich22001" <hhuent@g...> wrote:
> Does this result in some rythmic delay stuff or whats the trick?
> 
> Heinrich
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@y..., "ezra_gold" <ezra_gold@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > If you really want to save the 'arpeggiated' notes into the 
> > sequencer 
> > > then you need to do that by going out of the box and then back 
> into 
> > the 
> > > MIDI In, either using a direct connection or through an 
external 
> > MIDI 
> > > routing box. But normally you don't want to record the 
> > arpeggiations 
> > > into the sequence, because then when you play it back you will 
> wind 
> > up 
> > > 'apreggiating the arpeggiator', which is probably not what you 
> > want. 
> > > YMMV.
> > > 
> > > Scott
> > 
> > That is one of my favorite tricks with the xl-7. You record an 
> > arpegio type pattern into the sequencer then turn on the 
arpegiator 

> > in the patch. By playing around with arpegiator pattern and note 
> > lengths you can get some really neat sounding stuff. Controling 
> > arpegio speed from a knob (thank you to whoever thought of this 
> cord) 
> > lets you add variations and energy where needed.
> > 
> > Ezra