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MP7 for a non-hiphopper

MP7 for a non-hiphopper

2011-03-23 by Bruno

Hi guys,

anyone of you is using MP7 (or Phatt ROM) for a non-hiphop music with
success? I mean, did you find those sounds useful for any other genre
of music?

Soon I will be getting an MP7 (just because it was easier to find and
cheaper than XL7, and also because I know its previous owner) with
TSCY presets in RAM banks (to be adapted to MP7 raw instruments) and
was wondering if it contains any useful stuff in its ROM. Probably
will be trying to get XL7 ROM in some time soon...

Cheers, Bruno

Re: MP7 for a non-hiphopper

2011-03-23 by ric weidner

Bruno,
many of the people on this forum have tracks on soundcloud. many others are doing stuff on youtube which def a bit away from hip hop or whatever.  and welcome........

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Bruno <brunorc@...> wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
> 
> anyone of you is using MP7 (or Phatt ROM) for a non-hiphop music with
> success? I mean, did you find those sounds useful for any other genre
> of music?
> 
> Soon I will be getting an MP7 (just because it was easier to find and
> cheaper than XL7, and also because I know its previous owner) with
> TSCY presets in RAM banks (to be adapted to MP7 raw instruments) and
> was wondering if it contains any useful stuff in its ROM. Probably
> will be trying to get XL7 ROM in some time soon...
> 
> Cheers, Bruno
>

Re: [xl7] Re: MP7 for a non-hiphopper

2011-03-23 by Elektrofunkenstein

Don't let the low price and abundance on ebay fool you-Pure phatt is a great and underrated rom.
I'd say it is most suitable for hip hop/urban, funk, r'n'b and maybe drum'n'bass. Sure one could use it for electronica or any other genre.The kits and bassess are probably the strongest part. Unlike POP rom it doeasn't cover typical GM pallete like piano sounds (it has some great keys though, like the clavinet preset which sounds rich and bright).
peace.


On 23 March 2011 12:01, ric weidner <kazukoric@...> wrote:

Bruno,
many of the people on this forum have tracks on soundcloud. many others are doing stuff on youtube which def a bit away from hip hop or whatever. and welcome........



--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Bruno wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> anyone of you is using MP7 (or Phatt ROM) for a non-hiphop music with
> success? I mean, did you find those sounds useful for any other genre
> of music?
>
> Soon I will be getting an MP7 (just because it was easier to find and
> cheaper than XL7, and also because I know its previous owner) with
> TSCY presets in RAM banks (to be adapted to MP7 raw instruments) and
> was wondering if it contains any useful stuff in its ROM. Probably
> will be trying to get XL7 ROM in some time soon...
>
> Cheers, Bruno
>


Re: [xl7] Re: MP7 for a non-hiphopper

2011-03-23 by Bruno

Hi Ric,

2011/3/23 ric weidner <kazukoric@...>:
> Bruno,
> many of the people on this forum have tracks on soundcloud. many others are doing stuff on youtube which def a bit away from hip hop or whatever.  and welcome........

True, but nor soundcloud songs neither tubes come with the detailed
description "I used an instrument/preset from this ROM...". And even
when they sometimes do, one preset doesn't make the justice, so I was
asking about the general perspective of the long-term owners.

Cheers,

Bruno

Re: [xl7] Re: MP7 for a non-hiphopper

2011-03-23 by Matt

dude get it you have 3 more slots to put all the badass roms u want.

On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 6:00 AM, Bruno <brunorc@...> wrote:

Hi Ric,

2011/3/23 ric weidner <kazukoric@...>:


> Bruno,
> many of the people on this forum have tracks on soundcloud. many others are doing stuff on youtube which def a bit away from hip hop or whatever. and welcome........

True, but nor soundcloud songs neither tubes come with the detailed
description "I used an instrument/preset from this ROM...". And even
when they sometimes do, one preset doesn't make the justice, so I was
asking about the general perspective of the long-term owners.

Cheers,

Bruno

Re: [xl7] Re: MP7 for a non-hiphopper

2011-03-23 by Matt

http://www.eprelectronics.com/store/E-mu-Accessories/E-mu-Ensoniq-Sound-ROMS/XROM1-XL-7-Sound-ROM-SIMM-p36.html
xrom for 50 bucks!

On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Matt <somatt@...> wrote:
dude get it you have 3 more slots to put all the badass roms u want.

On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 6:00 AM, Bruno <brunorc@...> wrote:

Hi Ric,

2011/3/23 ric weidner <kazukoric@...>:


> Bruno,
> many of the people on this forum have tracks on soundcloud. many others are doing stuff on youtube which def a bit away from hip hop or whatever. and welcome........

True, but nor soundcloud songs neither tubes come with the detailed
description "I used an instrument/preset from this ROM...". And even
when they sometimes do, one preset doesn't make the justice, so I was
asking about the general perspective of the long-term owners.

Cheers,

Bruno


Re: [xl7] Re: MP7 for a non-hiphopper

2011-03-23 by Bruno

2011/3/23 Matt <somatt@...>
>
> http://www.eprelectronics.com/store/E-mu-Accessories/E-mu-Ensoniq-Sound-ROMS/XROM1-XL-7-Sound-ROM-SIMM-p36.html
> xrom for 50 bucks!

Yeah, I know. Twice as much with shipping to Europe. And as I said -
I'm going to take it anyway, and just asking a simple question, but
seems like recently anything not related to GAS gets bashed here
sooner or later ;-)

Bruno

Re: [xl7] Re: MP7 for a non-hiphopper

2011-03-23 by Bruno

2011/3/23 Elektrofunkenstein <elektrofunkenstein@...>
> Don't let the low price and abundance on ebay fool you-Pure phatt is a great and underrated rom.
> I'd say it is most suitable for hip hop/urban, funk, r'n'b and maybe drum'n'bass. Sure one could use it for electronica or any other genre.The kits and bassess are probably the strongest part. Unlike POP rom it doeasn't cover typical GM pallete like piano sounds (it has some great keys though, like the clavinet preset which sounds rich and bright).

Thanks, that gives me some hope :-) Of all mentioned genres
electronica sounds the closest to what I'm doing recently. As I'm
going to use it mostly for "having a rhythm section" in my music and
provide a heartbeat for my other synths, basses and kits will do
(however, even MORE basses than in P2K?). Regarding the piano sounds,
I've heard MP7 is capable of making some decent electric pianos... I
also hope that the raw instruments offer somewhat wide palette, so
with the use of filters and some modulation I can get something not
targeted towards the neybahood gangsta.

Bruno

Re: MP7 for a non-hiphopper

2011-03-25 by dutchbeats

just stumbled on this video. this guy is my new command station hero lol




> anyone of you is using MP7 (or Phatt ROM) for a non-hiphop music with
> success? I mean, did you find those sounds useful for any other genre
> of music?
>
>
>
> Cheers, Bruno
>

Re: [xl7] Re: MP7 for a non-hiphopper

2011-03-25 by James Ulibarri

I don't see any 1/4" cables out of this box..
That spaz is like the milli vanilli of the CS.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 24, 2011, at 10:10 PM, "dutchbeats" <dutchbeats@...> wrote:

> just stumbled on this video. this guy is my new command station hero  
> lol
>
>
>
>
> > anyone of you is using MP7 (or Phatt ROM) for a non-hiphop music  
> with
> > success? I mean, did you find those sounds useful for any other  
> genre
> > of music?
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers, Bruno
> >
>

Re: [xl7] Re: MP7 for a non-hiphopper

2011-03-25 by Scott Solmonson

Agreed- let's remember what the Command Station is, and what it's not.
(nice haircut he's got)

1) a top-tier HW sequencer, aligned with others as the Alesis MMT-8 and the Yamaha Qx/RMX series.
2) the penultimate ROMpler-based sound-machining mechanism that exists.
3) an MPC/ASR kind of velocity-sensitive playing surface, also with 16 knobs that can be assigned.

To answer Bruno's question- all a ROMpler sound is is a base waveform that is looped and combined with sub/over tones and FX.
The CS series is incredibly capable, and to ask if it suits a particular genre or not sounds like you're looking for preset sounds; which is fine, music production has moved in some very drastic ways over the last 10 years; but most of us here (still using ancient hardware) are more in to the weirdo aspects.
My "main statement" stands; that with a Control Station and a sampler you can essentially do anything :)

-SS

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:53 PM, James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:


I don't see any 1/4" cables out of this box..
That spaz is like the milli vanilli of the CS.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 24, 2011, at 10:10 PM, "dutchbeats" <dutchbeats@...> wrote:

just stumbled on this video. this guy is my new command station hero lol




>; anyone of you is using MP7 (or Phatt ROM) for a non-hiphop music with
> success? I mean, did you find those sounds useful for any other genre
> of music?
>
>
>
> Cheers, Bruno
>






--
NUNQUAM NON PARATUS

Re: [xl7] Re: MP7 for a non-hiphopper

2011-03-25 by Elektrofunkenstein

If you're organising Michael Jarre karaoke party-XL-7 should be on top of your list:D
Out of four roms I use now, Xl-7 is the least gansta when listening to its presets and patterns only. It is 90% electronica and progressive rom, its sounds are quite edgy and powerful.
Then comes POP rom, which is most versatile in your sounds spectrum, then both DRUM and PHATT being the grooviest, phattiest and dirtyiest to my taste.
If you want to see number of basses (or any sounds) just compare the lists from each manuals. I think PK2 kills it when number is concerned. Protean DRUM only has few, but it shines in acoustic and drum machines area. However, as you mentioned you can work on raw sounds and tweak almost anything out of any rom.

On 23 March 2011 21:04, Bruno <brunorc@...> wrote:

2011/3/23 Elektrofunkenstein <elektrofunkenstein@...>
> Don't let the low price and abundance on ebay fool you-Pure phatt is a great and underrated rom.
> I'd say it is most suitable for hip hop/urban, funk, r'n'b and maybe drum'n'bass. Sure one could use it for electronica or any other genre.The kits and bassess are probably the strongest part. Unlike POP rom it doeasn't cover typical GM pallete like piano sounds (it has some great keys though, like the clavinet preset which sounds rich and bright).

Thanks, that gives me some hope :-) Of all mentioned genres
electronica sounds the closest to what I'm doing recently. As I'm
going to use it mostly for "having a rhythm section" in my music and
provide a heartbeat for my other synths, basses and kits will do
(however, even MORE basses than in P2K?). Regarding the piano sounds,
I've heard MP7 is capable of making some decent electric pianos... I
also hope that the raw instruments offer somewhat wide palette, so
with the use of filters and some modulation I can get something not
targeted towards the neybahood gangsta.

Bruno


Re: [xl7] Re: MP7 for a non-hiphopper

2011-03-25 by The Dogg

Way to go James. I actually agree with you, someone commented on the video about no cables too, then someone said one was coming out of the headphone jack, and he replied back saying good catch, and there isn't one there either, must be friends of the kid. I only see the power cable. Milli Vanilli for sure in this one. 

--- On Fri, 3/25/11, James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:

From: James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...>
Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: MP7 for a non-hiphopper
To: "xl7@yahoogroups.com" <xl7@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, March 25, 2011, 2:53 AM















 
 



  


    
      
      
      I don't see any 1/4" cables out of this box..That spaz is like the milli vanilli of the CS.    
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 24, 2011, at 10:10 PM, "dutchbeats" <dutchbeats@yahoo.ca> wrote:






 



    
      
      
      
just stumbled on this video. this guy is my new command station hero lol




> anyone of you is using MP7 (or Phatt ROM) for a non-hiphop music with
> success? I mean, did you find those sounds useful for any other genre
> of music?
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers, Bruno
>

what I got, how I use it (was: MP7 for a non-hiphopper)

2011-03-25 by duncan

my XL-7 is the unlikely home for the orchestral rom pairing, a composer rom & a sounds of the ZR rom. I used it for writing orchestral stuff in 32 bar chunks. I start with violins on tracks 1 & 2, then violas on 3. cellos & basses together (layered) on 4 unless there's a solo part. woods on 5 & 6. brass on 7 & 8. percussion (including tuned perc.) on 9 & 10 (old habits die hard!) then piano on 11. the other tracks are free for whatever featured/solo instruments there might be.
often, I can write the parts in using the rubber pads (bearing in mind that with the exception of the piano, these parts are largely monophonic, as they would be in real-life), though I'll hook up a proper keyboard or use a peavey midi-bass for some parts.
best part is I can use this standalone, without firing up the rest of the studio.

I also have the virtuoso module with "world" in place of the composer rom, & a regular p2k with added "vintage", "protean drum" & a flash of my own mellotron samples, & an expanded audity for synth noises.
I use a 6400ultra to make the flash roms. it sits there idle the rest of the time.
h/w sequencers besides the XL7 are: doepfer maq, octopus, notron, P3, cirklon, roland EF303, tb303....

in our live rig, there's a p2k + a pk6 with the same roms ("composer", "vintage", "proteus1/2/3" & flash), & a planet earth module with a smaller flash & a ZR.

emu'd up!

duncan.

Re: [xl7] Re: MP7 for a non-hiphopper

2011-03-25 by Bruno

2011/3/25 The Dogg <doggtel@...>
> Way to go James. I actually agree with you, someone commented on the video about no cables too, then someone said one was coming out of the headphone jack, and he replied back saying good catch, and there isn't one there either, must be friends of the kid. I only see the power cable. Milli Vanilli for sure in this one.

Check 1:17 Probably a cable with an angle jack, so it's hard to
notice, and it's not visible dangling in full plan, but probably
because the video is crappy as hell. See the screenshot.

Bruno

P.S. Did I mention that CS is the

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Re: [xl7] Re: MP7 for a non-hiphopper [1 Attachment]

2011-03-25 by The Dogg

My bad, I see it now, I guess I just expected it to be a regular cable, I wouldn't think to use a guitar cable out from the headphone jack. Cool 

--- On Fri, 3/25/11, Bruno <brunorc@...> wrote:

From: Bruno <brunorc@...>
Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: MP7 for a non-hiphopper [1 Attachment]
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, March 25, 2011, 9:37 AM















 
 



  


    
      
              
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      2011/3/25 The Dogg <doggtel@...>

> Way to go James. I actually agree with you, someone commented on the video about no cables too, then someone said one was coming out of the headphone jack, and he replied back saying good catch, and there isn't one there either, must be friends of the kid. I only see the power cable. Milli Vanilli for sure in this one.



Check 1:17 Probably a cable with an angle jack, so it's hard to

notice, and it's not visible dangling in full plan, but probably

because the video is crappy as hell. See the screenshot.



Bruno



P.S. Did I mention that CS is the

Re: what I got, how I use it (was: MP7 for a non-hiphopper)

2011-03-25 by Dumeril

This is cool learning how folks are using these machines.  The Command Stations were obviously designed for the dance music market, but the capabilities really go far beyond that.

I use my PX-7 in three ways.  Its loaded with the Composer, Protean Drum, Vintage Collection, and Definitive B-3 ROMs.

1.  For my live looping rig, I use the PX-7 MIDI synced as a slave to an EH 2880.  The 2880 handles audio (bass & guitar) and the PX-7 handle MIDI loops.  I'll use both pre-sequenced and live loops on the PX-7.  Because the sequencer allows you to do so many operations without stopping playback, it actually makes a very good live MIDI looping device so long as you understand and work around its limitations.  It also helps that the track erase feature can be used as an "undo" which is essential in looping.  I use both the onboard pads and an external controller, depending on the part being record.

2.  I also play in a Tom Petty tribute band and I use the PX-7 as sound module controlled by another keyboard.  For _Don't Come Around Here No More_, I have a sequence programmed in the PX-7 to handle a few of the synth layers in that song, plus a click track that gets fed directly to our drummer.  I used to use the B-3 ROM sounds a lot, but then I bought a Roland VR-760 clonewheel so I don't use that as much.  But samples off the Vintage Collection and Composer ROMs get used quite a lot, especially Mellotron, string, and brass samples.

3.  In my studio, the PX-7 functions as a MIDI sound module driven by FL Studio.  

D7

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "duncan" <ferrograph@...> wrote:
>
> my XL-7 is the unlikely home for the orchestral rom pairing, a composer rom & a sounds of the ZR rom. I used it for writing orchestral stuff in 32 bar chunks. I start with violins on tracks 1 & 2, then violas on 3. cellos & basses together (layered) on 4 unless there's a solo part. woods on 5 & 6. brass on 7 & 8. percussion (including tuned perc.) on 9 & 10 (old habits die hard!) then piano on 11. the other tracks are free for whatever featured/solo instruments there might be.
> often, I can write the parts in using the rubber pads (bearing in mind that with the exception of the piano, these parts are largely monophonic, as they would be in real-life), though I'll hook up a proper keyboard or use a peavey midi-bass for some parts.
> best part is I can use this standalone, without firing up the rest of the studio.
> 
> I also have the virtuoso module with "world" in place of the composer rom, & a regular p2k with added "vintage", "protean drum" & a flash of my own mellotron samples, & an expanded audity for synth noises.
> I use a 6400ultra to make the flash roms. it sits there idle the rest of the time.
> h/w sequencers besides the XL7 are: doepfer maq, octopus, notron, P3, cirklon, roland EF303, tb303....
> 
> in our live rig, there's a p2k + a pk6 with the same roms ("composer", "vintage", "proteus1/2/3" & flash), & a planet earth module with a smaller flash & a ZR.
> 
> emu'd up!
> 
> duncan.
>

Re: [xl7] what I got, how I use it (was: MP7 for a non-hiphopper)

2011-03-25 by Scott Solmonson

Duncan- do you have a link to any of your tracks? I'm kinda curious to
here what an entirely-made-on-XL7 orchestra sounds like :)

-SS

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 4:40 AM, duncan <ferrograph@...> wrote:
> my XL-7 is the unlikely home for the orchestral rom pairing, a composer rom & a sounds of the ZR rom. I used it for writing orchestral stuff in 32 bar chunks. I start with violins on tracks 1 & 2, then violas on 3. cellos & basses together (layered) on 4 unless there's a solo part. woods on 5 & 6. brass on 7 & 8. percussion (including tuned perc.) on 9 & 10 (old habits die hard!) then piano on 11. the other tracks are free for whatever featured/solo instruments there might be.
> often, I can write the parts in using the rubber pads (bearing in mind that with the exception of the piano, these parts are largely monophonic, as they would be in real-life), though I'll hook up a proper keyboard or use a peavey midi-bass for some parts.
> best part is I can use this standalone, without firing up the rest of the studio.
>
> I also have the virtuoso module with "world" in place of the composer rom, & a regular p2k with added "vintage", "protean drum" & a flash of my own mellotron samples, & an expanded audity for synth noises.
> I use a 6400ultra to make the flash roms. it sits there idle the rest of the time.
> h/w sequencers besides the XL7 are: doepfer maq, octopus, notron, P3, cirklon, roland EF303, tb303....
>
> in our live rig, there's a p2k + a pk6 with the same roms ("composer", "vintage", "proteus1/2/3" & flash), & a planet earth module with a smaller flash & a ZR.
>
> emu'd up!
>
> duncan.
>
>
>
>
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Re: what I got, how I use it (was: MP7 for a non-hiphopper)

2011-03-29 by duncan

>>Duncan- do you have a link to any of your tracks? I'm kinda curious to here what an entirely-made-on-XL7 orchestra sounds like :)<<

work-in-progress. the having-it-available-online part, I mean. I'm putting together stuff for a solo album, & aim to have this done in a couple of months, all using the XL7 & (mostly) the peavey bass for input. if I can keep the frets clean! (WD40 is good for that).
d.